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Title: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: thelakelander on March 04, 2019, 08:12:38 PM
(https://photos.moderncities.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Brooklyn/i-p63NkrP/0/9a1e0790/L/bfh4-L.jpg)

QuoteJacksonville's first true food hall is being proposed in the red hot Brooklyn neighborhood.

Read More: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/jaxs-first-food-hall-coming-to-brooklyn-neighborhood/
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: marcuscnelson on March 04, 2019, 09:24:01 PM
Alright guys, let's hear it.

How is the city going to somehow screw this up?
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: marcuscnelson on March 04, 2019, 09:24:33 PM
Oh, this does look absolutely gorgeous, and I pray to God that they actually pull this off ASAP.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: JaxAvondale on March 05, 2019, 01:16:16 AM
I really hope that this happens. I ate at the food hall in Indianapolis twice last week.

(https://imgur.com/gallery/5Avbo34)
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: JaxAvondale on March 05, 2019, 01:18:21 AM
https://imgur.com/gallery/5Avbo34 (https://imgur.com/gallery/5Avbo34)
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: pierre on March 05, 2019, 07:20:25 AM
If done right, this would be a great addition.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: RiversideRambler on March 05, 2019, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: marcuscnelson on March 04, 2019, 09:24:01 PM
Alright guys, let's hear it.

How is the city going to somehow screw this up?

By getting involved in the project
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: ProjectMaximus on March 05, 2019, 09:37:19 AM
I like it. The developer is also involved in a project at the beaches? I can't seem to find any other info about them.

If this and the microbrewery can get open it will be fantastic.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: CityLife on March 05, 2019, 10:27:34 AM
^Trevato Development Group are developing the former J Johnson gallery and adjacent parcels in Jax Beach. Jennifer Johnson (owner of J Johnson gallery) is one of the heirs of the Johnson and Johnson fortune and has no shortage of money. From what I've been told about her, I don't believe she would have sold her gallery to Trevato without having confidence in their capability.

Cronk Duch is designing both the Jax Beach and food court projects and they are one the best in firms North Florida. Their work is typically more contemporary coastal, but I'm sure will do a great job in Brooklyn.

Still would rather see a food hall conversion at the Landing, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Kerry on March 05, 2019, 10:28:06 AM
Figures - just as I move out of downtown.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: RatTownRyan on March 05, 2019, 10:40:44 AM
So is the park street road diet going to happen on schedule? If it gets delayed for any reason I could see this being where the city could drop the ball.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Tacachale on March 05, 2019, 10:44:34 AM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 05, 2019, 09:37:19 AM
I like it. The developer is also involved in a project at the beaches? I can't seem to find any other info about them.

If this and the microbrewery can get open it will be fantastic.

This is the developer's Jax Beach project. It's pretty ambitious.

https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/the-gallery-new-jacksonville-beach-mixed-use-project/
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: thelakelander on March 05, 2019, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: CityLife on March 05, 2019, 10:27:34 AM
Still would rather see a food hall conversion at the Landing, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

I don't think it has to be an either or proposition. Jax is late to the party but Florida's other major cities have multiple food halls now. Even downtown Tampa has another food hall ( The Hall on Franklin - https://thehallonfranklin.com/ (https://thehallonfranklin.com/)) three blocks east of Armature Works now. With the Northbank, there's a built in population that won't be driving to Brooklyn for their lunch breaks, so a revitalized Landing with a food hall component as a part of a larger mix of uses would still be feasible. I can also see suburban malls like Avenues or Orange Park attempting to retrofit their food courts into food halls as the concept gains local popularity and they look for ways to maintain their customer base. I wouldn't be surprised to see several all over town within a few years.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Tacachale on March 05, 2019, 04:54:01 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 05, 2019, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: CityLife on March 05, 2019, 10:27:34 AM
Still would rather see a food hall conversion at the Landing, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

I don't think it has to be an either or proposition. Jax is late to the party but Florida's other major cities have multiple food halls now. Even downtown Tampa has another food hall ( The Hall on Franklin - https://thehallonfranklin.com/ (https://thehallonfranklin.com/)) three blocks east of Armature Works now. With the Northbank, there's a built in population that won't be driving to Brooklyn for their lunch breaks, so a revitalized Landing with a food hall component as a part of a larger mix of uses would still be feasible. I can also see suburban malls like Avenues or Orange Park attempting to retrofit their food courts into food halls as the concept gains local popularity and they look for ways to maintain their customer base. I wouldn't be surprised to see several all over town within a few years.

Yeah, Jax has been slow on this trend, so if it progresses as it has in other cities, I don't think there would be any issue with 2 food halls or more, even in that close of proximity. The good thing about food halls, as opposed to food courts or other venues that have mostly the same offerings, is that each one could have totally different businesses and not really compete in that way. In fact, I'd expect to see more developers jumping on the bandwagon after this one breaks the seal as it were.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: KenFSU on March 05, 2019, 07:47:14 PM
Awesome project, great location.

Can't wait.

Hot scoop, Bill!

Quote from: RiversideRambler on March 05, 2019, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: marcuscnelson on March 04, 2019, 09:24:01 PM
Alright guys, let's hear it.

How is the city going to somehow screw this up?

By getting involved in the project

With Brooklyn genuinely on the verge of exploding with new residential at Vista Brooklyn and Lofts at Brooklyn, the new Brooklyn Marriott, new restaurants coming east of Brooklyn Station, the new food hall, the Y expansion, and whatever mixed use project Morris ends up picking for the Times-Union property, I do hope the city is thinking long and hard about how we can turn Unit Plaza into more of an asset for Brooklyn. We spent close to $3 millon on it, it's in a great location central to Brooklyn, and despite the design issues, surely we can pump more life into it.

Does anyone know who owns the lot between the proposed Food Hall and Unity Plaza?





Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Captain Zissou on March 06, 2019, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on March 05, 2019, 07:47:14 PM
Does anyone know who owns the lot between the proposed Food Hall and Unity Plaza?

Isn't that the Brooklyn Marriott?
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Tacachale on March 06, 2019, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on March 05, 2019, 07:47:14 PM

Hot scoop, Bill!


All in a day's work, especially for our sources.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: ProjectMaximus on March 06, 2019, 10:15:27 AM
This seems like a good moment to pay homage to Oral Explosions, the original Jax Food Hall. :) Though short-lived, it shall live on in our hearts through its inspiring name.

Quote from: CityLife on March 05, 2019, 10:27:34 AM
^Trevato Development Group are developing the former J Johnson gallery and adjacent parcels in Jax Beach. Jennifer Johnson (owner of J Johnson gallery) is one of the heirs of the Johnson and Johnson fortune and has no shortage of money. From what I've been told about her, I don't believe she would have sold her gallery to Trevato without having confidence in their capability.

Nice. I have been there and met her...did not know anything about her J&J connection.

Quote from: Tacachale on March 05, 2019, 10:44:34 AM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 05, 2019, 09:37:19 AM
I like it. The developer is also involved in a project at the beaches? I can't seem to find any other info about them.

If this and the microbrewery can get open it will be fantastic.

This is the developer's Jax Beach project. It's pretty ambitious.

https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/the-gallery-new-jacksonville-beach-mixed-use-project/

Thanks, that link is actually how I knew about the developer. Could not find anything else.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Rynjny on March 06, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
A representative of the "Brooklyn food hall" development told me today its not happening anytime soon and that they were surprised to read a report about it.

They do intend to develop that Park St. corridor in Brooklyn, but not before the road diet is completed.

https://twitter.com/Davidcawton/status/1103361711090876416
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Tacachale on March 06, 2019, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rynjny on March 06, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
A representative of the "Brooklyn food hall" development told me today its not happening anytime soon and that they were surprised to read a report about it.

They do intend to develop that Park St. corridor in Brooklyn, but not before the road diet is completed.

https://twitter.com/Davidcawton/status/1103361711090876416

Correct, as we reported. Read the damn article, Cawton.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: thelakelander on March 06, 2019, 04:08:36 PM
Just to shed a bit on "time line" since the Park Street road diet project was mentioned. The Park Street road diet's $2.2 million is included in the FY18-19 budget. This project is anticipated to be underway this year. This was covered last November:

https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/cycle-track-coming-to-brooklyns-park-street/
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: Steve on March 06, 2019, 04:36:22 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on March 06, 2019, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rynjny on March 06, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
A representative of the "Brooklyn food hall" development told me today its not happening anytime soon and that they were surprised to read a report about it.

They do intend to develop that Park St. corridor in Brooklyn, but not before the road diet is completed.

https://twitter.com/Davidcawton/status/1103361711090876416

Correct, as we reported. Read the damn article, Cawton.

Haha. Kinda funny that Cawton posted that. When a reporter posts what Cawton posted, I get the feeling that the reporter is partially disappointed he or she didn't publish it first.
Title: Re: Jax's First Food Hall Coming To Brooklyn Neighborhood
Post by: thelakelander on March 06, 2019, 05:08:27 PM
Yeah comes across as sour grapes. Would make sense the since Tacachale mentioned he blocked theJaxsonMag on twitter.