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Jacksonville City Council President Brosche Considers Run for Mayor: 'I Have a Lot to Think About'
By MARK WRAY • MAY 2, 2018
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City Council President Anna Lopez Brosche acknowledged that many supporters have urged her to run for mayor, and said she is "keeping all options open" when it comes to her political future in Jacksonville.
Jacksonville City Council President Anna Brosche appeared on First Coast Connect Thursday morning.
CREDIT KEVIN MEERSCHAERT / WJCT NEWS
Brosche spoke about JEA, tensions between her and Jacksonville Mayor Lenny Curry as well as the road ahead when her term ends in June on Wednesday's First Coast Connect.
After her term as Council President ends on June 30, she said she'll be "seeking clarity" in terms of what her next step will be.
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http://news.wjct.org/post/jacksonville-city-council-president-brosche-considers-run-mayor-i-have-lot-think-about
Interesting comments from AG Gancarski:
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As Anna Brosche mulls challenge, Lenny Curry hauls in $250K more for re-election bid
A.G. GANCARSKI
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Informed sources confirm that Jacksonville Mayor Lenny Curry raised more than $250,000 in April, his second straight month of strong fundraising after a $1.5 million March.
The breakdown: $46,000 for the campaign (bringing its total raised to just over $300,000) and $206,000 for the "Jacksonville on the Rise" political committee (pushing it over $1.45 million raised or transferred from other committees).
All told, Curry is positioned by the end of May to clear $2 million raised.
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Additionally, Jacksonville City Council President Anna Brosche is mulling a run for mayor, with a decision to be made this summer, after her term as Council President wraps in June.
While she is "focused" on her "responsibilities as Council President and some important initiatives launched recently," Brosche notes that once her term ends, she will have "the opportunity to get clarity on [her] next steps."
A Brosche/Curry matchup would bristle with drama, were it to happen.
The dislike between the two leading Republicans in City Hall is palpable, as they have clashed on issue after issue, with each showing a propensity to hurl pejoratives at each other through the media.
If a challenge were to manifest, one could expect Curry to call in every marker possible, with an eye toward as decisive a victory as possible.
A party familiar with the thinking of Curry's political team asserts that Brosche will lose her next campaign, no matter what she runs for.
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/262681-as-anna-brosche-mulls-challenge-lenny-curry-hauls-in-250k-more-for-re-election-bid
Another interesting piece from A. G. Gancarski. He suggests that the mayor's operation will work to defeat Brosche in a City Council re-election, and suggests she capitalize on her current status as someone who can go head-to-head with Curry to challenge him for the mayor's office.
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Run, Anna, Run
Give the people what they want
via coj.net
Posted Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:44 am
FOLIO VOICES
story by A.G. GANCARSKI
Last week, we reviewed the prospects of Connell Crooms, a mayoral candidate who's bound to change the way this city talks about social justice issues.
In that column, I made an error. I posited that Jacksonville City Council President Anna Lopez Brosche wouldn't be interested in running in 2019.
Not for the first time, or the last, I was wrong.
As if wanting to give the lie to my column, Brosche went on First Coast Connect as papers were being dropped off hither and yon (though mostly hither) and all but said she was exploring a run.
Though "focused" on her "responsibilities as council president and some important initiatives launched recently," Brosche will have "the opportunity to get clarity on next steps" when her term ends in June.
I'm not a consultant yet—still a few more stages of Hell to get through from here to there. However, here's some free advice for Brosche.
Run the dadgum race. Time is running short.
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How can you not run?
They will BURY you if you run for re-election. The knives will come unsheathed for you, no matter how underwhelming the opponent might be, and checks will be cut against you. You won't have the team to keep up with what will be done, both directly and through committees and through passthroughs of passthroughs.
And if you somehow win re-election, what then? I'll tell you what. It's going to look like it will in July, when Bowman moves you to the small office and the edge of the dais. But that's not all bad. It puts you closer to the green room.
You might as well run against Lenny Curry because, either way, you're running against him anyway.
In doing so, you will render yourself heroic, at least in the eyes of many of those who were on the fence about Curry and have yet to see anyone successfully stand up to that machine.
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It's not easy to go up against a mayor with a machine that's Big City and ruthless in every way.
Take that case to the people. You may as well. After months of disrespect, you have no alternative.
Curry is the boss in the video game. Do you have enough tokens to crack the code?
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http://folioweekly.com/stories/run-anna-run,19720
I hope Brosche disrupts and then pulverizes the good ole boy network in Jax...all the alliances, all the assumptions.
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on May 15, 2018, 08:10:26 PM
I hope Brosche disrupts and then pulverizes the good ole boy network in Jax...all the alliances, all the assumptions.
Well, if she wants to do that then don't make ridiculous comments about the administration "monitoring" her computer without evidence. It sounded awful and amateur hour.
You mean amateur like trying to sell the city utility under ratepayers noses and then claiming to know nothing about it? Yea....
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 2018, 08:50:43 AM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on May 15, 2018, 08:10:26 PM
I hope Brosche disrupts and then pulverizes the good ole boy network in Jax...all the alliances, all the assumptions.
Well, if she wants to do that then don't make ridiculous comments about the administration "monitoring" her computer without evidence. It sounded awful and amateur hour.
Yea, that probably wasn't necessary, but then again, that sort of accusatory rhetoric is straight out of a Donald Trump playbook - I don't think Brosche is going after the Trump voter, but I do believe politicians around the country are studying his tactics. Establish your base of supporters, and then fan the flames of their passsions by presenting yourself as under siege by the opposition. Brosche does appear to be playing the victim a bit, but she probably has to in order to build an intensity of grassroots support to overcome the Curry and Establishment and Good 'Ole Boy machinery.
The real thing she (or anyone serious) would need would be money. It's hard to see who of the money people would support someone besides the sitting mayor. To me, the more interesting thing would be if she runs for re-election in the Council, that Curry's operatives would field a challenger (who would be very well funded).
Quote from: Elwood on May 16, 2018, 09:01:50 AM
You mean amateur like trying to sell the city utility under ratepayers noses and then claiming to know nothing about it? Yea....
Not saying that the JEA thing was a good move by Curry. I think it was a bad move to be clear. But, Curry's JEA actions have nothing to do with Brosche's "monitoring" claim, other than they were the two people involved.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 09:20:06 AM
The real thing she (or anyone serious) would need would be money. It's hard to see who of the money people would support someone besides the sitting mayor. To me, the more interesting thing would be if she runs for re-election in the Council, that Curry's operatives would field a challenger (who would be very well funded).
I agree - Curry will be VERY difficult to beat by another Republican. The biggest issue: Brosche hasn't made a name for herself on issues, just on political bullcrap. Whether her allegations are true or false, it's irrelevant - what does she stand for that's different than Curry?
While Trump definitely banged the "any publicity is good publicity" drum to the point the drum broke, he also mixed in what he was going to do. Some of it made sense, some of it was crazy. It was at least something, and it was enough to gain a base of supporters.
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 2018, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 09:20:06 AM
The real thing she (or anyone serious) would need would be money. It's hard to see who of the money people would support someone besides the sitting mayor. To me, the more interesting thing would be if she runs for re-election in the Council, that Curry's operatives would field a challenger (who would be very well funded).
I agree - Curry will be VERY difficult to beat by another Republican. The biggest issue: Brosche hasn't made a name for herself on issues, just on political bullcrap. Whether her allegations are true or false, it's irrelevant - what does she stand for that's different than Curry?
While Trump definitely banged the "any publicity is good publicity" drum to the point the drum broke, he also mixed in what he was going to do. Some of it made sense, some of it was crazy. It was at least something, and it was enough to gain a base of supporters.
Curry would be difficult, if not impossible, to beat by
anybody. He's got the money and a list of accomplishments, and hasn't pushed away his base and core donors, as Alvin Brown did. The Democrats haven't even suggested a serious candidate, let alone one that could actually win.
Brosche has definitely made a name for herself on stuff like the JEA and the HRO. She's definitely more of an "issues" person than Curry was when he won the mayoral election in 2015, or even than he is now. However, some of the issues (like Confederate monuments) will push some of the base away. Also, unlike 2015 Curry, she wouldn't be running against a historically weak candidate.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 10:43:42 AM
Brosche has definitely made a name for herself on stuff like the JEA and the HRO. She's definitely more of an "issues" person than Curry was when he won the mayoral election in 2015, or even than he is now. However, some of the issues (like Confederate monuments) will push some of the base away. Also, unlike 2015 Curry, she wouldn't be running against a historically weak candidate.
I guess, perhaps. But, she hasn't done as good of a job getting herself into the news for it. It's tough for a city council person.
I feel like she'd have a better chance in 2023 though.
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 2018, 11:48:38 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 10:43:42 AM
Brosche has definitely made a name for herself on stuff like the JEA and the HRO. She's definitely more of an "issues" person than Curry was when he won the mayoral election in 2015, or even than he is now. However, some of the issues (like Confederate monuments) will push some of the base away. Also, unlike 2015 Curry, she wouldn't be running against a historically weak candidate.
I guess, perhaps. But, she hasn't done as good of a job getting herself into the news for it. It's tough for a city council person.
I feel like she'd have a better chance in 2023 though.
She's been all over the news about most of this stuff, that won't be her problem. Her problem would be the money, and the strength of the competition.
If Curry has any vulnerabilities it would have to be crime. He beat Brown over the head with it in the last campaign, but it seems to me that the crime rate may be even worse than when Brown was in office. Money talks and Curry has the finances.
Quote from: Snaketoz on May 16, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
If Curry has any vulnerabilities it would have to be crime. He beat Brown over the head with it in the last campaign, but it seems to me that the crime rate may be even worse than when Brown was in office. Money talks and Curry has the finances.
Yes. They brought this up on First Coast Connect a few weeks ago. Curry's main campaign promise was to lower the crime rate (despite it apparently having been at a 50-year low), and since he was elected the rate of violent crime has increased in the city.
Any time Curry speaks he always harps on the small-government belief that government's only responsibility should be safety. Doesn't seem to be working too well for him.
Quote from: Josh on May 16, 2018, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Snaketoz on May 16, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
If Curry has any vulnerabilities it would have to be crime. He beat Brown over the head with it in the last campaign, but it seems to me that the crime rate may be even worse than when Brown was in office. Money talks and Curry has the finances.
Yes. They brought this up on First Coast Connect a few weeks ago. Curry's main campaign promise was to lower the crime rate (despite it apparently having been at a 50-year low), and since he was elected the rate of violent crime has increased in the city.
Any time Curry speaks he always harps on the small-government belief that government's only responsibility should be safety. Doesn't seem to be working too well for him.
It's not going to be an issue, for various reasons. First and foremost, violent crime isn't up by much, if at all during his term. It decreased slightly between 2015 and 2016 (https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/County-Profiles/Duval.aspx) before it increased slightly last year (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/2017/2017SA_Statewide_County.aspx).
In contrast, while overall crime may have been down in 2015, violent crime was climbing throughout Brown's term. Brown had also slashed police positions and Jacksonville Journey funding, which had previously been responsible for reducing the violent rate. That's what Curry really hammered Brown on, and he has in fact done things differently. He brought back police positions and added funding to the Jacksonville Journey. He can point to that and say that he's trying to fix the problem, and JSO will back him up on it. No challenger would have anything to stick to Curry on this.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: Josh on May 16, 2018, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Snaketoz on May 16, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
If Curry has any vulnerabilities it would have to be crime. He beat Brown over the head with it in the last campaign, but it seems to me that the crime rate may be even worse than when Brown was in office. Money talks and Curry has the finances.
Yes. They brought this up on First Coast Connect a few weeks ago. Curry's main campaign promise was to lower the crime rate (despite it apparently having been at a 50-year low), and since he was elected the rate of violent crime has increased in the city.
Any time Curry speaks he always harps on the small-government belief that government's only responsibility should be safety. Doesn't seem to be working too well for him.
It's not going to be an issue, for various reasons. First and foremost, violent crime isn't up by much, if at all during his term. It decreased slightly between 2015 and 2016 (https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/County-Profiles/Duval.aspx) before it increased slightly last year (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/2017/2017SA_Statewide_County.aspx).
In contrast, while overall crime may have been down in 2015, violent crime was climbing throughout Brown's term. Brown had also slashed police positions and Jacksonville Journey funding, which had previously been responsible for reducing the violent rate. That's what Curry really hammered Brown on, and he has in fact done things differently. He brought back police positions and added funding to the Jacksonville Journey. He can point to that and say that he's trying to fix the problem, and JSO will back him up on it. No challenger would have anything to stick to Curry on this.
Curry's first full year in office was 2016, yes? I was under impression the murder rate has gone up significantly. Ultimately, I don't think it's fair to lay the blame for the murder rate solely at the feet of the Mayor, but given how brutal he was with Brown on crime, he should have to answer for the unfortunate trend. He'll probably say he just needs more time for the increased police headcount and Journey to be absorbed by the community, but I don't know enough about Journey to have a view on its impact.
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on May 16, 2018, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: Josh on May 16, 2018, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Snaketoz on May 16, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
If Curry has any vulnerabilities it would have to be crime. He beat Brown over the head with it in the last campaign, but it seems to me that the crime rate may be even worse than when Brown was in office. Money talks and Curry has the finances.
Yes. They brought this up on First Coast Connect a few weeks ago. Curry's main campaign promise was to lower the crime rate (despite it apparently having been at a 50-year low), and since he was elected the rate of violent crime has increased in the city.
Any time Curry speaks he always harps on the small-government belief that government's only responsibility should be safety. Doesn't seem to be working too well for him.
It's not going to be an issue, for various reasons. First and foremost, violent crime isn't up by much, if at all during his term. It decreased slightly between 2015 and 2016 (https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/County-Profiles/Duval.aspx) before it increased slightly last year (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/2017/2017SA_Statewide_County.aspx).
In contrast, while overall crime may have been down in 2015, violent crime was climbing throughout Brown's term. Brown had also slashed police positions and Jacksonville Journey funding, which had previously been responsible for reducing the violent rate. That's what Curry really hammered Brown on, and he has in fact done things differently. He brought back police positions and added funding to the Jacksonville Journey. He can point to that and say that he's trying to fix the problem, and JSO will back him up on it. No challenger would have anything to stick to Curry on this.
Curry's first full year in office was 2016, yes? I was under impression the murder rate has gone up significantly. Ultimately, I don't think it's fair to lay the blame for the murder rate solely at the feet of the Mayor, but given how brutal he was with Brown on crime, he should have to answer for the unfortunate trend. He'll probably say he just needs more time for the increased police headcount and Journey to be absorbed by the community, but I don't know enough about Journey to have a view on its impact.
The murder rate has continued to climb, but violent crime in total hasn't gone up as much (and decreased in 2016). He'll be able to point to what he's done with the new officers and Jacksonville Journey funding and say it just hasn't had time to be bear fruit. And that's true - it's a lot easier to get rid of officers (as Brown did) than it is to train new ones, and he was working from a serious deficit in the resources. I just don't see the issue sticking to him. It's not as if the new candidate could do better, and they'd know it.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 04:27:35 PM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on May 16, 2018, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: Josh on May 16, 2018, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Snaketoz on May 16, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
If Curry has any vulnerabilities it would have to be crime. He beat Brown over the head with it in the last campaign, but it seems to me that the crime rate may be even worse than when Brown was in office. Money talks and Curry has the finances.
Yes. They brought this up on First Coast Connect a few weeks ago. Curry's main campaign promise was to lower the crime rate (despite it apparently having been at a 50-year low), and since he was elected the rate of violent crime has increased in the city.
Any time Curry speaks he always harps on the small-government belief that government's only responsibility should be safety. Doesn't seem to be working too well for him.
It's not going to be an issue, for various reasons. First and foremost, violent crime isn't up by much, if at all during his term. It decreased slightly between 2015 and 2016 (https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/County-Profiles/Duval.aspx) before it increased slightly last year (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR/2017/2017SA_Statewide_County.aspx).
In contrast, while overall crime may have been down in 2015, violent crime was climbing throughout Brown's term. Brown had also slashed police positions and Jacksonville Journey funding, which had previously been responsible for reducing the violent rate. That's what Curry really hammered Brown on, and he has in fact done things differently. He brought back police positions and added funding to the Jacksonville Journey. He can point to that and say that he's trying to fix the problem, and JSO will back him up on it. No challenger would have anything to stick to Curry on this.
Curry's first full year in office was 2016, yes? I was under impression the murder rate has gone up significantly. Ultimately, I don't think it's fair to lay the blame for the murder rate solely at the feet of the Mayor, but given how brutal he was with Brown on crime, he should have to answer for the unfortunate trend. He'll probably say he just needs more time for the increased police headcount and Journey to be absorbed by the community, but I don't know enough about Journey to have a view on its impact.
The murder rate has continued to climb, but violent crime in total hasn't gone up as much (and decreased in 2016). He'll be able to point to what he's done with the new officers and Jacksonville Journey funding and say it just hasn't had time to be bear fruit. And that's true - it's a lot easier to get rid of officers (as Brown did) than it is to train new ones, and he was working from a serious deficit in the resources. I just don't see the issue sticking to him. It's not as if the new candidate could do better, and they'd know it.
New candidate doesn't have to do better, they just have to dangle the prospect that she/he could do better, and that the murder rate is the component of the violent crime trend that's the most important and most disconcerting, and that Curry has failed to deliver on that. Is aggressive pedestrian ticketing in minority neighborhoods Jacksonville's version of stop and frisk? Having said all of that, I don't know if people outside of a few zip codes in the urban core really feel the violent crime problem enough for it to drive their votes.
I think if any office holder seeker should talk about crime it would be someone running for sheriff. Curry had so little to offer, he had to find something to blame on Brown, even if he wasn't sheriff. He couldn't blame the sheriff for the crime rate, because the sheriff was a Republican. Curry has grown a lot since being elected. He ALMOST seems to be eligible to run for office now that he has learned on the job. His campaign was pitiful. He stammered and gagged his way from nobody to the perfect puppet of big money, bigshot-Florida. Nobody so unworthy has gone so far with so little in recent memory. (Unless you count our current President) I was shocked when he won, and now I'll be shocked if he isn't re-elected.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 11:57:47 AM
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 2018, 11:48:38 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 16, 2018, 10:43:42 AM
Brosche has definitely made a name for herself on stuff like the JEA and the HRO. She's definitely more of an "issues" person than Curry was when he won the mayoral election in 2015, or even than he is now. However, some of the issues (like Confederate monuments) will push some of the base away. Also, unlike 2015 Curry, she wouldn't be running against a historically weak candidate.
I guess, perhaps. But, she hasn't done as good of a job getting herself into the news for it. It's tough for a city council person.
I feel like she'd have a better chance in 2023 though.
She's been all over the news about most of this stuff, that won't be her problem. Her problem would be the money, and the strength of the competition.
Honestly I think Anna would have no issues raising money if she were doing it in a vacuum. It's actually something that I would consider a strength for her. However the problem is she'd be competing against Curry for those funds, and as some of you have pointed it he's already locked down a lot of the heavy hitters in this city.
The crime angle is one of the frustrating parts I have with our Consolidated Government. If you ask a new resident to the city who has a family what the top two things they care about are, they usually respond with "Crime and Education" (not necessarily in that order). With our government, the Mayor has a bit of a pass with both of them:
- While the COJ approves the Sheriff's budget, the Sheriff is elected on their own, has overall say of the running of the department, and can't be replaced by the mayor (unlike most big cities with an appointed Police Chief/Commissioner).
- DCPS is their own line on the Property Tax bill, manages their own money, has elected School Board members who hire a Superintendent.
While the Mayor is the figurehead and his words carry some weight in that regard, The Mayor can just say "Not My Problem".
(To be clear, this isn't a statement about Curry but our government structure. John Peyton did this more times than I can count)