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Community => Transportation, Mass Transit & Infrastructure => Topic started by: Metro Jacksonville on April 19, 2018, 06:30:01 AM

Title: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on April 19, 2018, 06:30:01 AM
Updated renderings for JTA's transit center

(https://photos.moderncities.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/Jacksonville-Intermodal/i-B3Zbrmm/0/fa678f37/L/20180419%20DDRB%20Agenda%20Packet_Page_148-L.jpg)

With the relocated Greyhound terminal nearing completion, the JTA is moving forward with the second phase of its long proposed Jacksonville Regional Transportation Center.

Read More: https://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2018-apr-updated-renderings-for-jtas-transit-center
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: KenFSU on April 19, 2018, 09:30:41 AM
Love the landscaping, though I'm a bit disappointed (but not entirely surprised) to see some of the more dramatic design elements removed.

In particular, I really liked the original design where the entire building was elevated, with a bus passthrough underneath, that nice sloping plaza, and the main entrance elevated to Skyway height.

(https://snag.gy/2FLcXz.jpg)

Looks like everything is ground level now, with the buses passing behind the building.

(https://photos.moderncities.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/Jacksonville-Intermodal/i-5ftbpTC/0/20ac5212/L/20180419%20DDRB%20Agenda%20Packet_Page_171-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: KenFSU on April 20, 2018, 04:35:31 PM
Per the JBJ, the new design was approved by the DDRB.

The pedestrian bridge was not.

They called it an eyesore.

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/04/20/downtown-housing-projects-gator-bowl-blvd-marquee.html
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: marcuscnelson on April 20, 2018, 11:11:47 PM
I can't help but feel disappointed.

The original concept was what we were all sold on. We proudly supported Pond not only because the building looked nice, but because of the stylish and urban manner in which the surrounding land was integrated. The way the busses traveled under the building and this great big gorgeous plaza stood in front as the centerpiece of a future transportation district, with a gorgeous pedestrian bridge that could (eventually) be expanded to Union Terminal. We supported Pond because that's what we wanted, and they presented it as if it was buildable.

And yet, now they're coming back, hat in hand and saying they can only half-ass what they promised this city. And we're supposed to just be okay with this?
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: arb on April 21, 2018, 02:35:53 AM
I honestly don't mind the new design update. The Skyway Plaza area is still elevated with a public sitting area.
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: mtraininjax on April 21, 2018, 08:35:05 AM
Very Sad that they dumped the Pedestrian Bridge. We just returned from Europe and outside of Amsterdam there is this cool bridge with people's faces etched into the Steel that goes over the bridge. It was made for those who impacted the life in the City of Hoofddorp, where it is located. http://www.zja.nl/en/page/2339/steel-faces-bridges-hoofddorp (http://www.zja.nl/en/page/2339/steel-faces-bridges-hoofddorp).
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: thelakelander on April 22, 2018, 11:30:56 PM
I can see why the ped bridge was called an eyesore. Here's the most recent version. It's significantly valued engineered over what was shown originally during the conceptual planning phase.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/Jacksonville-Intermodal/i-QqK9Crk/0/b17377d8/X2/JRTC%20Pedestrian%20Bridge%20Night-X2.png)
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: thelakelander on April 22, 2018, 11:31:54 PM
Most recent version of the office building:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/Jacksonville-Intermodal/i-N2LJgNB/0/c8f903a6/X2/JRTC%20Rendering%20April%202018-X2.png)
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: marcuscnelson on April 23, 2018, 01:39:37 AM
What the hell is this? For the love of God, don't tell me that taxpayers are spending $50 million on that. That can't actually be the most recent version? Or at least not the one they're building?

How could we go from this: (https://snag.gy/2FLcXz.jpg)

To this? (https://photos.smugmug.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/Jacksonville-Intermodal/i-N2LJgNB/0/c8f903a6/X2/JRTC%20Rendering%20April%202018-X2.png)

How could we go from "Gateway, Iconic, Catalyst" to "An office building from the 1980s, but bent?"

Was the original concept completely unbuildable?
Title: Re: Updated renderings for JTA's transit center
Post by: jagsonville on April 16, 2019, 02:18:39 PM
Is the Rosa Parks  bus station closing?