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Title: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 07:18:40 AM
Heard this on the radio earlier this morning.... ;D

QuoteMillennials are less interested in breasts than their elders.

People from the age of 18 to 24 are 19% less likely to search for breasts on pornographic website Pornhub compared to all other age groups, according to an analysis conducted by the website.

For comparison, Pornhub visitors from the ages of 55 to 64 are 17% more likely to search for breast-related content.

Millennials' pornography preferences seem to be part of a wider trend.

"At the moment larger breasts are out though I'm sure they'll come back," Sarah Pedersen, professor of communications and media at Robert Gordon University, told Playboy. "We tend to react to what went before."

For "breastaurants" like Hooters and Twin Peaks, a loss of interest in breasts is bad for business. The number of Hooters locations in the US have dropped by more than 7% from 2012 to 2016, and sales have stagnated, according to industry reports.

Full article: http://www.businessinsider.in/Millennials-have-a-new-attitude-about-cleavage-thats-forcing-breastaurant-Hooters-to-close-locations-and-change-its-strategy/articleshow/60093392.cms
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Adam White on August 18, 2017, 07:33:46 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 07:18:40 AM
Heard this on the radio earlier this morning.... ;D

QuoteMillennials are less interested in breasts than their elders.

People from the age of 18 to 24 are 19% less likely to search for breasts on pornographic website Pornhub compared to all other age groups, according to an analysis conducted by the website.

For comparison, Pornhub visitors from the ages of 55 to 64 are 17% more likely to search for breast-related content.

Millennials' pornography preferences seem to be part of a wider trend.

"At the moment larger breasts are out though I'm sure they'll come back," Sarah Pedersen, professor of communications and media at Robert Gordon University, told Playboy. "We tend to react to what went before."

For "breastaurants" like Hooters and Twin Peaks, a loss of interest in breasts is bad for business. The number of Hooters locations in the US have dropped by more than 7% from 2012 to 2016, and sales have stagnated, according to industry reports.

Full article: http://www.businessinsider.in/Millennials-have-a-new-attitude-about-cleavage-thats-forcing-breastaurant-Hooters-to-close-locations-and-change-its-strategy/articleshow/60093392.cms

The question, of course, is what are millennials searching for on PornHub?
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: pierre on August 18, 2017, 08:25:46 AM
It could also be the terrible food
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Sonic101 on August 18, 2017, 08:38:55 AM
Anytime someone brings up millennials "killing" products:

QuoteWe should thank millennials for ruining these terrible products

...And, on behalf of all millennials, I can only say: You're welcome.
Because these institutions we're obliterating are awful.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/10/we-should-thank-millennials-for-ruining-these-terrible-products/ (http://nypost.com/2017/06/10/we-should-thank-millennials-for-ruining-these-terrible-products/)
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: pierre on August 18, 2017, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: Sonic101 on August 18, 2017, 08:38:55 AM
Anytime someone brings up millennials "killing" products:

QuoteWe should thank millennials for ruining these terrible products

...And, on behalf of all millennials, I can only say: You're welcome.
Because these institutions we're obliterating are awful.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/10/we-should-thank-millennials-for-ruining-these-terrible-products/ (http://nypost.com/2017/06/10/we-should-thank-millennials-for-ruining-these-terrible-products/)

It's funny because it's true.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 09:39:09 AM
QuoteTrust me, the first food chain that invests in a latte artist who can carve our own faces into coffee foam is going to make a fortune.

Hmmm...... 8)

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Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Tacachale on August 18, 2017, 09:57:42 AM
LOL at the idea that Millennials don't go to Hooters because they like breasts less. Seems more likely that having the whole internet's worth of streaming pornography in your pocket at all times dilutes the impact of ogling young women in tank tops and unflattering orange (!) shorts.

Also the fact that the concept is retrograde, women hate the place, and the food is bad and overpriced might have something to do with it.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: I-10east on August 18, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
I don't buy this 'millennial connection is what's closing Hooters". Are they the reason why IHOP and Applebee's are closing some locations? Quite a few brick and mortar restaurants in that 'Joe six pack" class are struggling.   
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Adam White on August 18, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 18, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
I don't buy this 'millennial connection is what's closing Hooters". Are they the reason why IHOP and Applebee's are closing some locations? Quite a few brick and mortar restaurants in that 'Joe six pack" class are struggling.

Yes, according to the link that Sonic101 posted. Apparently Millennials have different tastes than Joe six pack.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
I fall more on the line of not being impressed with the food.  I can find better elsewhere and at a competitive price point.  I don't go any place for what they waitresses are dressed in, so Hooters, IHOP, Applebees, TGI Fridays, Chilis, etc. are all the same peas in a pod to me. If there's a viable alternative nearby, I'm most likely heading to the alternative.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: TimmyB on August 18, 2017, 10:27:03 AM
So, sales are flat, then?
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: BridgeTroll on August 18, 2017, 10:29:55 AM
Quote from: TimmyB on August 18, 2017, 10:27:03 AM
So, sales are flat, then?

;D ;D
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 10:31:47 AM
I assume tufsu1 must not be eating out as much  ;)
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: I-10east on August 18, 2017, 10:45:41 AM
Another thing that millennials close is diversity of thought. #1984 #notall
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Adam White on August 18, 2017, 10:52:03 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 18, 2017, 10:45:41 AM
Another thing that millennials close is diversity of thought. #1984 #notall

I don't think not enjoying Applebee's or Hooters can be considered lacking "diversity of thought".

I've never liked IHOP (or Applebee's) but don't think it says anything about me in particular. And I'm not even a Millennial!
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Captain Zissou on August 18, 2017, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 10:31:47 AM
I assume tufsu1 must not be eating out as much  ;)

;D ;D ;D ;D
I've been waiting for him to weigh in on the matter, considering he is the resident Hooters expert.

Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: pierre on August 18, 2017, 10:56:20 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 18, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
I don't buy this 'millennial connection is what's closing Hooters". Are they the reason why IHOP and Applebee's are closing some locations? Quite a few brick and mortar restaurants in that 'Joe six pack" class are struggling.

Restaurants with terrible food are closing.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: KenFSU on August 18, 2017, 11:11:32 AM
Millennials also aren't visiting strip clubs or hiring strippers for bachelor parties either, relative older generations.

Could it just be that we're moving toward a more progressive society that values women for more than just their bodies?

I wouldn't be caught dead in a Hooters, for multiple reasons. The 'regulars" are creepy and sad. By proxy of being in a restaurant called "Hooters" with a gimmick of being able to leer at boobs, the waitresses treat everyone - perhaps rightfully so - like they're a perv who wants to be fake-flirted with. The food is gross. And the overall business model seems to be catered to our parents and grandparents.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Adam White on August 18, 2017, 11:14:36 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on August 18, 2017, 11:11:32 AM
Millennials also aren't visiting strip clubs or hiring strippers for bachelor parties either, relative older generations.

Could it just be that we're moving toward a more progressive society that values women for more than just their bodies?

I wouldn't be caught dead in a Hooters, for multiple reasons. The 'regulars" are creepy and sad. By proxy of being in a restaurant called "Hooters" with a gimmick of being able to leer at boobs, the waitresses treat everyone - perhaps rightfully so - like they're a perv who wants to be fake-flirted with. The food is gross. And the overall business model seems to be catered to our parents and grandparents.

Totally.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: TimmyB on August 18, 2017, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on August 18, 2017, 11:11:32 AM
Millennials also aren't visiting strip clubs or hiring strippers for bachelor parties either, relative older generations.

Could it just be that we're moving toward a more progressive society that values women for more than just their bodies?

I wouldn't be caught dead in a Hooters, for multiple reasons. The 'regulars" are creepy and sad. By proxy of being in a restaurant called "Hooters" with a gimmick of being able to leer at boobs, the waitresses treat everyone - perhaps rightfully so - like they're a perv who wants to be fake-flirted with. The food is gross. And the overall business model seems to be catered to our parents and grandparents.

Agreed.  I also find great humor in the fact that there are Hooters restaurants in Las Vegas.  Just doesn't add up in any way.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on August 18, 2017, 11:11:32 AM
I wouldn't be caught dead in a Hooters, for multiple reasons. The 'regulars" are creepy and sad.

Haha tell that to Tufus1's face! 

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/5597743816676070492812136645.gif)
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: benfranklinbof on August 18, 2017, 11:40:13 AM
Hmmm if there was vegan and local food then I might go. Ha ha
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
With that said, I did stop in a Twin Peaks in suburban Detroit earlier this summer.  It was late and the only other option was McDonalds. Once inside, it seemed more like a sports bar than a Hooters. The food was also better.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: DeathByPensions on August 19, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
The conclusion drawn is completely ridiculous.

Hooters is like the dining equivalent of Playboy magazine. It will exist just until the moment the last of our pervy uncles finally gets their HughesNet or dies of old age. I don't go there because it somehow manages to smell like vomit even at 10am, it doesn't do anything particularly great, and one can see more scantily clad females literally anywhere you go on most days. It just has a sad vibe in general.

The idea that this in any way speaks of a moral superiority of younger people is goofy. Back in the day objectifying women was a public thing that required some degree of work. Now you have literally everything you could ever want available from the privacy of your basement.

If you look at studies, millennials consume more porn than any generation in human history. In a study by Brigham Young and The Journal of Sex Research, only 14% of young adults said they thought pornography was bad for society and ranked it as less morally objectionable than not recycling, using too much water or overeating. https://www.barna.com/research/porn-in-the-digital-age-new-research-reveals-10-trends/ (https://www.barna.com/research/porn-in-the-digital-age-new-research-reveals-10-trends/). It's all different shades of immoral, if you think watching a (usually pirated) video on pornhub for free where some 20 year old coked up girl is exploited by some dirtbag and going about your day gives you moral high ground over an old pervert eating chicken wings served by a girl in 80's workout apparel at Hooters, god bless you.

As far as the pornhub search trends, I think it speaks more to the fact that literally nobody besides endearingly naive middle aged men are actually going to pull up a search engine and type in "big boobs" in 2017.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: spuwho on August 20, 2017, 12:13:59 AM
The oogling business has moved upmarket where millennials don't go.

Gentlemans Clubs have been growing at a rate of just under 2% annually and constitute about $7 billion in revenue.

Everything below (Hooters) and everything above (strip clubs) have been declining annually.

Strip Clubs have declined due to municipalities putting stricter zoning and liquor laws in place to make it harder to let them open.

Most men want to watch sports with their beer now than orange shorts.

Gentlemens clubs tend to fall in between because the girls don't have to strip, they just sit on couches around you with little clothing. They are very expensive to enter (more than most millenials want to spend) but tend to bring in more drug issues than alcohol issues.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: I-10east on August 20, 2017, 01:51:24 AM
I guess that millennials hate Joe's Crab Shack too, because they are closing more than 40 restaurants. Looks like the Jax Beach location is safe. Maybe I should start a restaurant named "Shakes, Kale & Quinoa" to satisfy these millennials; business should be booming! $$$     

http://clark.com/shopping-retail/food-restaurants/joes-crab-shack-abruptly-closes-dozens-of-restaurants/
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: acme54321 on August 20, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
With that said, I did stop in a Twin Peaks in suburban Detroit earlier this summer.  It was late and the only other option was McDonalds. Once inside, it seemed more like a sports bar than a Hooters. The food was also better.

Haha, I went to one in Orlando a few years ago because it was late, they were open , and it was right next to my hotel.  The name totally made sense once I walked inside  ;D
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: billy on August 21, 2017, 12:48:22 AM
A program to genetically modify waitstaff to lactate malt beverages is underway.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Jim on August 21, 2017, 09:09:23 AM
Something something correlation something causation.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: civil42806 on August 22, 2017, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 21, 2017, 09:09:23 AM
Something something correlation something causation.
that about sums the article up.  But they are progressive!!!!!!
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: Gunnar on August 22, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
Quote from: I-10east on August 18, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
I don't buy this 'millennial connection is what's closing Hooters". Are they the reason why IHOP and Applebee's are closing some locations? Quite a few brick and mortar restaurants in that 'Joe six pack" class are struggling.

Don't care much unless Waffle House starts suffering. This is when I'd start to care.
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: tufsu1 on August 28, 2017, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 10:31:47 AM
I assume tufsu1 must not be eating out as much  ;)

Tufsu1 has been so busy that he did not see this until today - but yes, tufsu1 has not been eating at the Jax Landing Hooters (or anywhere else out) as much
Title: Re: Millennials forcing Hooters to close locations and change its strategy
Post by: tufsu1 on August 28, 2017, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 18, 2017, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on August 18, 2017, 11:11:32 AM
I wouldn't be caught dead in a Hooters, for multiple reasons. The 'regulars" are creepy and sad.

Haha tell that to Tufus1's face! 

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/5597743816676070492812136645.gif)

oh generally I agree!