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Title: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on June 11, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population

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The Census Bureau recently released their 2016 estimates for the country's largest cities. Here's a look at the latest numbers for the country's largest 100 cities. Find out where your city falls on the list!

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Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Adam White on June 11, 2017, 09:58:01 AM
Jacksonville has passed San Francisco. Coming soon to a barber shop near you...$100 haircuts!
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: spuwho on June 12, 2017, 08:49:42 AM
Quote from: Adam White on June 11, 2017, 09:58:01 AM
Jacksonville has passed San Francisco. Coming soon to a barber shop near you...$100 haircuts!

Knocking on Simms again?

The most surprising loss to me is Long Beach CA.  Its explainable as Boeing continues to demolish the Douglas Aircraft complex and they shut down the last remaining production line (C-17 Globemaster). Employees of Boeing and all of the suppliers are leaving town.

Chicago's losses are driven by its continued loss of manufacturing and warehousing within the city limits. While the Loop is actually growing in population due to large high residential development and further expansion of higher densities away from the Loop,

The losses come from the south and southwest sides. The southwest contains the remains of old school manufacturing and large expanses of unused rail yards and the constant tear downs of abandoned housing on the southside.

Until they can turnaround these abandoned peoperties, the losses will continue.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: thelakelander on June 12, 2017, 09:01:15 AM
I'm still amazed by Miami.  Only 35 square miles and built out decades ago, but still packing in an additional 12k in a year.  Also nice to see a few cities like Cincinnati finally bottom out and begin growing again after six decades of continuous population loss.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: FlaBoy on June 12, 2017, 10:07:47 AM
Between highrises and additional density in South Miami, that trend will probably continue as the housing market booms. There is plenty of vacant land to throw up additional density in and around downtown Miami.

Also, looks like Houston is destined to pass Chicago now as the third largest city, especially with Houston continuing to annex.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: spuwho on June 12, 2017, 06:38:15 PM
Quote from: FlaBoy on June 12, 2017, 10:07:47 AM
Between highrises and additional density in South Miami, that trend will probably continue as the housing market booms. There is plenty of vacant land to throw up additional density in and around downtown Miami.

Also, looks like Houston is destined to pass Chicago now as the third largest city, especially with Houston continuing to annex.

I agree, Houston will surpass Chicago for #3 in the next 10 years, represents a major demographic shift over the years away from the Rust Belt.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: JaxJersey-licious on June 13, 2017, 12:55:42 AM
While the city of Miami's growth is notable I'm still amazed at the streak Washington D.C. still has going. Both cities have limited land to develop on, suffered population losses for years, and plagued by crime and a less than savory reputation the big difference being Washington has maintained its growth for over a decade now. Can't think of a city with that kind of density sustaining their current level of growth for so long (San Francisco and Seattle, possibly).
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Jim on June 13, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
If Ft Worth maintains that annual rate, it will surpass us in 5 years.  We'll pass San Jose in about 11.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: I-10east on June 13, 2017, 04:10:25 PM
Holy crap Phoenix!! Alot of people from Taxifornia move to Arizona and Texas for more friendly business climate.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: I-10east on June 13, 2017, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: Adam White on June 11, 2017, 09:58:01 AM
Jacksonville has passed San Francisco. Coming soon to a barber shop near you...$100 haircuts!

LOL. The contrast between DC and Bmore, holy crap. It's like night and day right in the same megalopolis. I'm surprised that Orlando proper isn't growing faster, from what I heard on other censuses; they must be getting hella suburban growth then.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: thelakelander on June 13, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
^Yeah, Orlando is a huge sprawler.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Adam White on June 13, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: I-10east on June 13, 2017, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: Adam White on June 11, 2017, 09:58:01 AM
Jacksonville has passed San Francisco. Coming soon to a barber shop near you...$100 haircuts!

LOL. The contrast between DC and Bmore, holy crap. It's like night and day right in the same megalopolis. I'm surprised that Orlando proper isn't growing faster, from what I heard on other censuses; they must be getting hella suburban growth then.

I wonder why Baltimore lost population?

In funnier news, Tulsa lost 15 people.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: RattlerGator on June 14, 2017, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Adam White on June 13, 2017, 05:14:56 PM

I wonder why Baltimore lost population?

It's one of those weird locales where Baltimore City is surrounded by Baltimore County but they are two different entities. The city is not a subsumed component of the county and their populations are headed in very different directions. This reflects the absolute disaster that is Baltimore City (outside of the Inner Harbor area and a few other spots) and what the old guard in Jax feared for this city before consolidation.

I worked for a consulting firm years ago doing disparity studies across the nation. Baltimore City was one of our clients. Wowza. Blatant "I don't give a damn what *your* numbers say, we need the procurement percentage to be X" -- they don't understand the real world in Baltimore City and they think money grows on trees. Not a good mix. Beautiful place, though. But people much prefer to live in the County, or further out, than the City.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Adam White on June 15, 2017, 05:07:15 AM
Quote from: RattlerGator on June 14, 2017, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Adam White on June 13, 2017, 05:14:56 PM

I wonder why Baltimore lost population?

It's one of those weird locales where Baltimore City is surrounded by Baltimore County but they are two different entities. The city is not a subsumed component of the county and their populations are headed in very different directions. This reflects the absolute disaster that is Baltimore City (outside of the Inner Harbor area and a few other spots) and what the old guard in Jax feared for this city before consolidation.

I worked for a consulting firm years ago doing disparity studies across the nation. Baltimore City was one of our clients. Wowza. Blatant "I don't give a damn what *your* numbers say, we need the procurement percentage to be X" -- they don't understand the real world in Baltimore City and they think money grows on trees. Not a good mix. Beautiful place, though. But people much prefer to live in the County, or further out, than the City.

I seem to remember seeing a show about remodeling homes or something and there were some really nice houses in Baltimore. Old row houses or something.

It's a shame about the city, though. I know it is (or was) pretty crime-ridden. I had a friend who went to art school there and she ran a small gallery at one time. She and her staff were held up at gunpoint one day. She said at first she thought it was some performance artists doing a piece...until she had a shotgun pointed in her face.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: RattlerGator on June 15, 2017, 11:26:08 AM
Ha !!! The Wire, of course, was a magnificent show on HBO.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Kerry on September 14, 2017, 11:01:47 PM
I kind of hate lists like this because they are just raw numbers with no context.  Jacksonville is disproportionately high on this list because about 90% of the population of metro Jacksonville lives inside the city limit.  Then you have Tampa down at #52 but is the principle city in a metro area of 3.5 million, which would make it #3 on the list if they just annexed the metro area.  If Tampa merely merged with Hillsborough County it would jump to #10.  When you can go from #53 to #10 in a single day the whole premise is flawed.

There has to be a better way to quantify the relative size of cities taking into account a city's land area, percentage of metro-population, percentage of the State population, and other factors.  Plus, maybe we shouldn't even look at places like Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach as individual cities - but a single entity with 3 primary population nodes.

Maybe if someone came up with a City-State model of American cities it would be pretty fun to analyze.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: thelakelander on September 15, 2017, 07:34:44 AM
There are already other ways. By metropolitan area being one, although it also has its cons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

I find urban area by population and density as being more apples to apples. However, this list only comes out once a decade:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_urban_areas

Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: Jim on September 15, 2017, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: Kerry on September 14, 2017, 11:01:47 PM
I kind of hate lists like this because they are just raw numbers with no context.  Jacksonville is disproportionately high on this list because about 90% of the population of metro Jacksonville lives inside the city limit.  Then you have Tampa down at #52 but is the principle city in a metro area of 3.5 million, which would make it #3 on the list if they just annexed the metro area.  If Tampa merely merged with Hillsborough County it would jump to #10.  When you can go from #53 to #10 in a single day the whole premise is flawed.

There has to be a better way to quantify the relative size of cities taking into account a city's land area, percentage of metro-population, percentage of the State population, and other factors.  Plus, maybe we shouldn't even look at places like Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach as individual cities - but a single entity with 3 primary population nodes.

Maybe if someone came up with a City-State model of American cities it would be pretty fun to analyze.
To get 3.5 million would take consolidating with Hillsborough county (1.3 million), annexing Pinellas county (950,000), Pasco county (500,000), Sarasota county (400,000), and Manatee county (350,000).  Which would also give it a land area of 4,224 sq miles.  Nearly 6 times the already massive land area of Jacksonville.

As Lake noted, urban, metro and density metrics are much better for comparing cities.  City limits are often somewhat arbitrary and vary drastically.  Jax and San Fransisco have about the same population but Jax is 747 square miles while SF is just 46 square miles.
Title: Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
Post by: BossmanOdum10 on September 15, 2017, 12:14:42 PM
Quote from: Kerry on September 14, 2017, 11:01:47 PM
I kind of hate lists like this because they are just raw numbers with no context.  Jacksonville is disproportionately high on this list because about 90% of the population of metro Jacksonville lives inside the city limit.  Then you have Tampa down at #52 but is the principle city in a metro area of 3.5 million, which would make it #3 on the list if they just annexed the metro area.  If Tampa merely merged with Hillsborough County it would jump to #10.  When you can go from #53 to #10 in a single day the whole premise is flawed.

There has to be a better way to quantify the relative size of cities taking into account a city's land area, percentage of metro-population, percentage of the State population, and other factors.  Plus, maybe we shouldn't even look at places like Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach as individual cities - but a single entity with 3 primary population nodes.

Maybe if someone came up with a City-State model of American cities it would be pretty fun to analyze.

Are you sure about your numbers?? 90 percent of 1.5 million lives in Jacksonville city limits. Very unlikely.  It's more like 55 percent.

Duval County has a population of 926,000......Jacksonville only consolidated with DUVAL COUNTY.....not baker, not clay, not st. johns.....JUST DUVAL. IJS

If Jacksonville city limits was 90 percent of roughly 1.5 million....JACKSONVILLE would be sitting at about 1,3500,000.. TOP 10 biggest in US status lol