The pending rebirth of Jax's Barnett Bank Building
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Downtown Jacksonville's Northbank is poised for a comeback and the historic Barnett Bank Building will serve as a major component of this effort. Today, Bullet of Abandoned Florida takes a look at its existing conditions and Ennis Davis, AICP provides a brief run down of what's in store for the property's future.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2017-may-the-pending-rebirth-of-jaxs-barnett-bank-building
Outstanding!!!!
Great article and super awesome news. Our dreams are finally coming true. Jacksonville is finally moving.
Is a Chase Bank really what we need on the bottom floor of this though? 9-5 and closed? Don't get me wrong, this is amazing, but a restaurant/bar or something to complement what's going on across the street would be nice.
I'd like to see a Chase branch downtown, but I hope it doesn't take up the entire first floor.
I cannot wait to see construction in this building.
It maybe starting sooner than most think. Initial construction permits have been submitted for approval.
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Good news. We walked by the other day and noticed the Est. 1926, Re-Est 2014 sign was still there and had a bit of a chuckle.
Nice!
QuoteBarnett Tower LLC, 112 W. Adams St., contractor is Danis Builders LLC, 155,370 square feet, interior demolition package and structural infill of existing floor slab openings, two permits, $657,950.
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549942
Quote from: thelakelander on May 27, 2017, 10:12:29 AM
It maybe starting sooner than most think. Initial construction permits have been submitted for approval.
Were permits not also submitted for the East San Marco Publix project?................
East San Marco would be under construction by now if it were getting the amount of incentives that the Barnett and Trio are in line to receive. Even with that in mind, I mentioned that it "may" start sooner than most anticipate.
"Cool as a cucumber" news.
Could it really be happening? :o
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/a-fresh-start-for-the-barnett-bank-building
^Per the article, Vagabond Coffee and an international bank will occupy the first floor of the Barnett, and a gym will occupy the mezzanine and a portion of the third floor. Tenets have already signed for the Barnett's office space.
http://jacksonville.com/business/real-estate/2017-10-16/renovation-begin-barnett-bank-building-week
Quote from: river4340 on October 16, 2017, 04:06:53 PM
http://jacksonville.com/business/real-estate/2017-10-16/renovation-begin-barnett-bank-building-week
Extremely excited for this project. I certainly had my doubts with Atkins over the years but bravo to him if he pulls if off which it certainly appears he will at this point.
Seeing the Barnett & Trio project kicking off construction gets my vote for Downtown Jacksonville's greatest success story since BJP.
3 major residences, a dorm and a hotel will be surrounding a single block downtown soon... This is huge. If we could get a 10-15 story apartment/condo with a Walgreens/CVS on the bottom floor in the burrito gallery parking lot, this area will be HOT!
Now if we could only get The Loop to finish out their build out next door.. lol.
Just walked by, windows are coming out fast on all sides of the building.
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;D
What was wrong with the ones it already had?? They were only what 8 years old?
I believe they were all installed wrong or not the correct windows for that space. Whatever, the issue was is why they were left open all those years.
^To prevent mold? To provide birds some decently dense urban residential accommodations?
Super, duper, nice!!! Let's get 'er done!
Info about the windows: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/barnett-bank-building-takes-step-toward-revival
Details of UNF's plan for the Barnett:
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/university-of-north-florida-seeking-loan-to-build-out-downtown-campus
Quote from: KenFSU on February 19, 2018, 09:56:02 AM
Details of UNF's plan for the Barnett:
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/university-of-north-florida-seeking-loan-to-build-out-downtown-campus
New working link:
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/unf-seeks-dollar380-000-loan-for-barnett-campus
Quote from: marcuscnelson on February 19, 2018, 09:03:26 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on February 19, 2018, 09:56:02 AM
Details of UNF's plan for the Barnett:
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/university-of-north-florida-seeking-loan-to-build-out-downtown-campus
New working link:
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/unf-seeks-dollar380-000-loan-for-barnett-campus
Bella y grandioso.
Loan approved, UNF plans to have classrooms open in the Barnett by January.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/22/unf-plans-january-opening-of-downtown-classrooms.html
Quote from: KenFSU on February 22, 2018, 11:02:14 AM
Loan approved, UNF plans to have classrooms open in the Barnett by January.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/22/unf-plans-january-opening-of-downtown-classrooms.html
Heard that. Awesome news.
Quote from: Tacachale on February 22, 2018, 11:38:39 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on February 22, 2018, 11:02:14 AM
Loan approved, UNF plans to have classrooms open in the Barnett by January.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/22/unf-plans-january-opening-of-downtown-classrooms.html
Heard that. Awesome news.
It's a great start. Let's hope they keep up the momentum and get more things downtown. Having more students there means there'll need to be places for them to sleep, work, play, etc.
Yeah, 125-150 students is a drop in the bucket. You can expect maybe 10 people tops, per school day, to contribute to the restaurants/bars downtown. We need fscj, JU, and UNF to bring at least a few thousand more students downtown to create noticable changes in commerce.
FSCJ has a few thousand there already. With them, they need to continue to add student housing south of their campus and the DIA/city officials need to work with them to make their core campus and the area around it, more integrated with the Northbank and Springfield. That campus, along with State and Union Streets are pure economic opportunity that remains untapped.
Quote from: thelakelander on February 23, 2018, 06:37:40 AM
FSCJ has a few thousand there already. With them, they need to continue to add student housing south of their campus and the DIA/city officials need to work with them to make their core campus and the area around it, more integrated with the Northbank and Springfield. That campus, along with State and Union Streets are pure economic opportunity that remains untapped.
Is that in process? Is there a master plan to make the existing FSCJ "downtown" campus more walkable and integrated with surrounding neighborhoods? From the looks of the campus now, it's totally disjointed and isn't designed to feed life into the core.
I'm not aware of a plan involving the DIA. Downtown's arbitrary borders end across the street from the campus.
Construction moving fast.
Barnett is already two months ahead of schedule, per Adkins.
Quote from: KenFSU on May 24, 2018, 02:57:35 PM
Construction moving fast.
Barnett is already two months ahead of schedule, per Adkins.
Terrific!
Project remains significantly ahead of schedule.
Groundbreaking on the garage is imminent, and work at the Trio should start ramping up by end of next month.
Demand for units at the Barnett has been so insane that Atkins is actively looking at other spots downtown for additional residential.
Quote from: KenFSU on July 07, 2018, 11:24:40 AM
Demand for units at the Barnett has been so insane that Atkins is actively looking at other spots downtown for additional residential.
Excellent news!
Quote from: Kiva on July 07, 2018, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on July 07, 2018, 11:24:40 AM
Demand for units at the Barnett has been so insane that Atkins is actively looking at other spots downtown for additional residential.
Excellent news!
Exactly why I felt this project would have more impact than most Downtown.
Quote from: jaxjaguar on February 22, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Yeah, 125-150 students is a drop in the bucket. You can expect maybe 10 people tops, per school day, to contribute to the restaurants/bars downtown. We need fscj, JU, and UNF to bring at least a few thousand more students downtown to create noticable changes in commerce.
Reality is these people are already downtown and won't be new adds. This isn't like a university is moving their campus downtown where students from all over the country will be spending their lives 24/7 during the school year. I wish we did have a downtown university but I don't even know if it is possible in Jax. The only viable option seems to be FSCJ but they would have to close all their satellite campuses and go on a tremendous building spree downtown to even make a dent, which I don't see them doing.
The only other path would be for the City to start a university but I don't see Jax doing that either. Oklahoma City tried to add a municipal university to their MAPS package a few years ago but it didn't make the list of projects because the cost to do it was far more than the tax was going to collect.
It isn't a total loss though as vacant space is being taken up and access to adult/continuing education is a plus for employers who might be enticed to move downtown if their employees are wanting to further their educations. However, this isn't like a university is moving their campus downtown where students from all over the country will be spending their lives 24/7 during the school year.
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on February 24, 2018, 03:50:19 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 23, 2018, 06:37:40 AM
FSCJ has a few thousand there already. With them, they need to continue to add student housing south of their campus and the DIA/city officials need to work with them to make their core campus and the area around it, more integrated with the Northbank and Springfield. That campus, along with State and Union Streets are pure economic opportunity that remains untapped.
Is that in process? Is there a master plan to make the existing FSCJ "downtown" campus more walkable and integrated with surrounding neighborhoods? From the looks of the campus now, it's totally disjointed and isn't designed to feed life into the core.
There was a plan a few years back. Later on, I'll see if I can dig it up a little later. Them adding dorms in the Northbank fits with the concept.
Quote from: Kerry on July 08, 2018, 09:50:36 AM
Quote from: jaxjaguar on February 22, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Yeah, 125-150 students is a drop in the bucket. You can expect maybe 10 people tops, per school day, to contribute to the restaurants/bars downtown. We need fscj, JU, and UNF to bring at least a few thousand more students downtown to create noticable changes in commerce.
Reality is these people are already downtown and won't be new adds. This isn't like a university is moving their campus downtown where students from all over the country will be spending their lives 24/7 during the school year. I wish we did have a downtown university but I don't even know if it is possible in Jax. The only viable option seems to be FSCJ but they would have to close all their satellite campuses and go on a tremendous building spree downtown to even make a dent, which I don't see them doing.
The only other path would be for the City to start a university but I don't see Jax doing that either. Oklahoma City tried to add a municipal university to their MAPS package a few years ago but it didn't make the list of projects because the cost to do it was far more than the tax was going to collect.
It isn't a total loss though as vacant space is being taken up and access to adult/continuing education is a plus for employers who might be enticed to move downtown if their employees are wanting to further their educations. However, this isn't like a university is moving their campus downtown where students from all over the country will be spending their lives 24/7 during the school year.
I think it's a local pipe dream to imagine a major university being in DT Jax or even UNF doing something to the significant level many here keep mentioning. FSCJ is DT's best chance at engaging students because it's already here. It's just disconnected by State and Union, so the economic benefit is limited. In a way, it's here but it's not. Better connecting FSCJ's main campus and assisting in helping them add more dorms in the Northbank, etc. is a much more realistic outcome than hoping for a relocation of thousands of students to downtown, imo.
From what I have seen, most of FSCJ investment is in the land they occupy. They don't have much in the way of facilities. Maybe they could move to a more desirable location around downtown.
The 20 West Laura project is their first in downtown off the main campus site. They've mentioned they'd like to retrofit more buildings in a similar fashion. They're basically playing the role of what SCAD has done in Savannah over the last 30 years.
There's no need to move the campus. There's considerable investment there. Instead focus on strengthening connectivity between it and the Northbank. The Skyway, infilling surface parking lots, restoring buildings like the Jones Brothers Furniture Company, or even repurposing some of FBC's facilities for educational/cultural purposes, can accomplish this incrementally.
I would be fine with the SCAD model if that is the way they are going.
Two floors are open in the Barnett.
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/photo-gallery/inside-unfs-new-center-for-entrepreneurship-and-innovation
I think Danis and Dasher Hurst have done a great job so far.
Quote from: Live_Oak on February 01, 2019, 03:31:15 PM
Two floors are open in the Barnett.
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/photo-gallery/inside-unfs-new-center-for-entrepreneurship-and-innovation
I think Danis and Dasher Hurst have done a great job so far.
Glory, glory hallelujah!
Action News Jax has a look inside some of the new apartments!
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/first-look-inside-the-renovated-barnett-building-apartments-in-downtown-jacksonville/925216932
Anyone here pre registered? 8)
Atkins is teasing "major news" for next week.
Maybe they will actually start on the Trio?
Posted on Instagram last night...
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That logo is a bit much...[\Kerry]
I'd settle for the garage breaking ground versus the Trio.
Didn't have a good place to put this, and it didn't deserve it's own thread. But it isn't that far from the Barnett building.
This is a hell of a deal for somebody:
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/39-Adams-St_Jacksonville_FL_32202_M61065-17090?view=qv (https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/39-Adams-St_Jacksonville_FL_32202_M61065-17090?view=qv)
Quote from: Captain Zissou on April 25, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
That logo is a bit much...[\Kerry]
In OKC they had a much more urban logo.
I drove by the building this week and saw the windows. They have one of the lanes blocked on Adams so you get lots of time to see the outside. What happened to all of the windows that OPEN UP? All the new windows are now closed. Its like being stuck in the Omni.
Very disappointing, not going to look there for a unit, ever.
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 01, 2019, 05:02:49 PM
What happened to all of the windows that OPEN UP?
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Presumably, some combination of:
They don't want to allow conditioned air to get let out and rain, bugs and noise to get in, which can affect the whole floor or building.
They don't want the added cost.
They don't want anyone using the windows for suicide.
They don't want to be liable should anyone fall out.
For offices, they don't want the people with windows to have effective control over the ventilation and temp for the whole floor.
QuotePresumably, some combination of:
They don't want to allow conditioned air to get let out and rain, bugs and noise to get in, which can affect the whole floor or building.
They don't want the added cost.
They don't want anyone using the windows for suicide.
They don't want to be liable should anyone fall out.
For offices, they don't want the people with windows to have effective control over the ventilation and temp for the whole floor.
Obviously piss poor arguments for owners of units.
^^ I thought these were going to be apartments, not ownership residences.
They are rentals. And not different than any of the other restored high rises downtown.
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 2019, 09:05:28 AM
They are rentals. And not different than any of the other restored high rises downtown.
Ding ding ding.
800 pre-registrations for the Barnett's 107 units.
Phone ringing off the hook, per Atkins.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2019/05/03/interest-high-in-barnett-bank-apartments-as.html?iana=hpmvp_jac_news_headline
^^^ they'll get a nice front row view of the landing "watch party" demolition. Since that's a thing in our city.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2019/06/07/jacksonville-business-journal-finds-new-home-in.html?iana=hpmvp_jac_news_headline
Jacksonville Business Journal finds new home in urban core.
The article says that the business journal will occupy the mezzanine level of the Barnett with plans to move into the space in August.
We have to be getting very close to breaking ground on the garage, right?
Quote from: RatTownRyan on June 07, 2019, 11:41:34 AM
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2019/06/07/jacksonville-business-journal-finds-new-home-in.html?iana=hpmvp_jac_news_headline
Jacksonville Business Journal finds new home in urban core.
The article says that the business journal will occupy the mezzanine level of the Barnett with plans to move into the space in August.
We have to be getting very close to breaking ground on the garage, right?
Nice! Good on you, JBJ.
https://residentnews.net/2019/11/27/developer-plans-to-move-forward-with-laura-street-trio/
Looks like Atkins is getting ready to start work on the Laura St trio, great sign. I'm glad the cost overruns associated with the Barnett didn't discourage them and it looks like DIA is willing to rework the original agreement to make the project more financially viable.
This line in the article really jumped out at me...
"The buildings sit at the corner of Laura and Forsyth streets and each was built during a different historical period."
Anyway, hopefully southeast can make it happen. Honestly, the city should do whatever it can to make it happen. It sounds like Boyer knows this so that's good...
VyStar making moves to purchase land for the garage:
jaxdailyrecord.com/article/vystar-plan-advancing-to-buy-city-land-for-downtown-parking-garage
Don't we have enough garages already?
Until the City provides an alternative what choice is there?
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2020/02/25/whats-next-for-the-historic-laura-street-trio-in.html?iana=hpmvp_jac_news_headline
Whatever the cost.
It's worth it.
Quote from: Ken_FSU on February 25, 2020, 08:23:07 PM
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2020/02/25/whats-next-for-the-historic-laura-street-trio-in.html?iana=hpmvp_jac_news_headline
Whatever the cost.
It's worth it.
Amen. This is one that the city has to figure out the funding somehow. Probably the most critical adaptive reuse downtown.:
They need to get on it. Let's figure out the cost, resolve the financing gap and move on before we miss another economic cycle.
I would like to save those structures and use them again. But this whatever the cost crap is so irresponsible that it borders on evil. We have a lot of poeple in this city who are hurting and need help. People > everything else.
Whatever the cost is, I can promise you it will be a couple hundred million less than what we'll be asked to subsidize Lot J. But yeah, we should first start with a number and determining what the financial gap is. Once that's known, solutions can be developed to overcome the obstacle.
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 26, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
this whatever the cost crap is so irresponsible that it borders on evil. We have a lot of poeple in this city who are hurting and need help. People > everything else.
Why aren't you this concerned with the money proposed for Lot J or the Landing? You have a documented history of opposing adaptive reuse, which is far more affordable than demolishing and replacing with new construction. If the city would quit knocking down buildings and retrofit what we already have, we would have millions more to spend on these "hurting" people.
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 26, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
I would like to save those structures and use them again. But this whatever the cost crap is so irresponsible that it borders on evil. We have a lot of poeple in this city who are hurting and need help. People > everything else.
Evil might be a strong word, but it's a reasonable point.
To Ennis's point, I was talking more in the context of what we're prepared to offer for projects like Lot J.
But I do think saving and reacting the Laura Street Trio is perhaps
the most important downtown project there is right now, particularly when we're racing against a falling market and we've got an eager partner (Steve Atkins), with a good plan, and a proven track record already with the Barnett.
If we're making a big capital investment in downtown, these are the projects that I think make sense to help subsidize from a public perspective:
1) The Trio + garage
2) The Landing
3) Independent Life residential/grocery/restaurant
4) Jones Furniture
5) Ambassador Hotel/Vestcor Apartments
6) First Baptist residential conversion
Help kickstart these projects - if necessary - before the economy turns, and keep the historic preservation trust and restaurant/retail grant programs funded, and I think we're in a pretty great spot for more private investment to come in.
Good list. I'd toss the Hyatt/Spandrel mixed use exhibitional hall/apartment thing into the mix if that actually picks up steam. I think most people underestimate the potential of events currently being held at the Prime Osborn, being able to be held in the middle of downtown.
I'd like to see the DIA aggressively address the future of the Furchgott's, BB&T Bank garage block and the ground floor of the Ed Ball Building as well. Get a decent cluster of generators within a block of each other on Laura, Julia, Adams, Hogan, etc. and things will definitely jump off.
^The two retail spaces at the front of the Main Library confound me every day when I walk by and see them abandoned as well.
The sidewalks are so wide in front of the library, you could do some really cool outdoor seating in that area.
Quote from: Ken_FSU on February 26, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
^The two retail spaces at the front of the Main Library confound me every day when I walk by and see them abandoned as well.
The sidewalks are so wide in front of the library, you could do some really cool outdoor seating in that area.
Here's the issue: They are subject to the library hours, which are ever-changing. If I were in charge, there minor construction that can be done that would make the left and right doors of the library open into the retail space directly versus the library. Then, I'd RFP the property management of those space, the Ed Ball Spaces, and the Library Garage retail. I'd then offer them financial incentives for the percentage of square footage that's open after 6PM and on weekends. The incentives would be proportionate; some incentives if open Thursday-Saturday after 6PM, more if open Tuesday-Sunday or something to that effect.
Quote from: Steve on February 26, 2020, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on February 26, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
^The two retail spaces at the front of the Main Library confound me every day when I walk by and see them abandoned as well.
The sidewalks are so wide in front of the library, you could do some really cool outdoor seating in that area.
Here's the issue: They are subject to the library hours, which are ever-changing. If I were in charge, there minor construction that can be done that would make the left and right doors of the library open into the retail space directly versus the library. Then, I'd RFP the property management of those space, the Ed Ball Spaces, and the Library Garage retail. I'd then offer them financial incentives for the percentage of square footage that's open after 6PM and on weekends. The incentives would be proportionate; some incentives if open Thursday-Saturday after 6PM, more if open Tuesday-Sunday or something to that effect.
The bathroom is also in the main library section. However, it should be also be a relatively minor construction to add one or two bathrooms in the front.
This is a challenge facing lits of cities where walkable urbanism was abandonded long ago. All retail space should have a door directly to the sidewalk.
The library retail spaces and the main entrance do have doors directly to the sidewalk. There's also a second set of doors at the end of the front arcade/foyer that could be locked independently when the library is closed. Other than the restroom thing, which can be resolved, filling these spaces seems like something that could easily be done if prioritized.
The old Shelby's space has backdoor (fire) access to the street, as well as ADA compliant bathrooms, but no hood nor greasetrap.
That's not the case for the other space (which has never had a tenant).
In order for both spaces to be able to offer hours independent of the library hours, the front doors would need to be modified, bathrooms would need to be installed in the second space, and the second space would need a fire exit.
Also, any lease and physical modifications to those retail spaces has to also go through several layers of red tape (library board, DIA and then all the standard Planning/Building Inspecitions/Fire Marshal)... including the most bureaucratic step- City Council hearings and (hopefully) approval.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on February 26, 2020, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 26, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
this whatever the cost crap is so irresponsible that it borders on evil. We have a lot of poeple in this city who are hurting and need help. People > everything else.
Why aren't you this concerned with the money proposed for Lot J or the Landing?
Or courthouse/annex demo.
The Landing and Courthouse demos have cost more than $30million... and the only potential development that may come out of those so far, is a standard stick-built, mixed use apartment building that will also require additional incentives.
Sounds similar to this famous quote:
"Throwing money, nearly $12 million, at special interests while kids are being gunned down in the street because of fewer cops is not simply outrageous it's disgusting"
-Campaign consultant Brian Hughes, circa 2015, in response to a $12 million incentive package to redevelop the Landing
Then..
""We're going to be looking at the mixed-use urban core model, which is office and residential and mixes thereof with one or two levels of retail"
-Chief Administrative Officer Brian Hughes, circa 2019, and fresh off the heels of spending over $22 million to tear it down, and a few months later the DIA will dust off the old 2015 plans so they can further incentivize what they could have incentivized 5 years earlier.
Next response will inevitably include the words: 'eyesore' 'failed design' 'dead space' 'nostalgia'
Quote from: fieldafm on February 26, 2020, 02:08:42 PM
The old Shelby's space has backdoor (fire) access to the street, as well as ADA compliant bathrooms, but no hood nor greasetrap.
That's not the case for the other space (which has never had a tenant).
In order for both spaces to be able to offer hours independent of the library hours, the front doors would need to be modified, bathrooms would need to be installed in the second space, and the second space would need a fire exit.
Also, any lease and physical modifications to those retail spaces has to also go through several layers of red tape (library board, DIA and then all the standard Planning/Building Inspecitions/Fire Marshal)... including the most bureaucratic step- City Council hearings and (hopefully) approval.
Which is why the management of the retail spaces should be turned over to a private business with incentives based on tenant hours. The contract with the property management company would be subject to all the bullcrap. Individual tenant leases then would not.
Big day for the Barnett.
(https://snipboard.io/R2Hc0j.jpg)
How many units total? 107
And what remains of commercial or retail?
What a monumental achievement (for Jacksonville). I am so happy for my city and my city of my birth. Now if we can just get the rest of the projects rolling...I know, deep deep recession and it looks bleak at present; and add to that the pandemic weighing on the national economy. But hopefully, through prayer(s) we can dig out of these pits and move on. Congrats City of Jacksonville, Florida.
Quote from: MusicMan on July 03, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
How many units total? 107
And what remains of commercial or retail?
On the retail front Chase is building out the ground floor now.
Really worried about the feasibility of the Trio hotel plan. Seems it will take a while for DT hotel occupancy rates to rebound to normal levels. Out of all the hotel boom talk the last few years, only two have broken ground. That includes the Ambassador, which hasn't been active in a year.
(https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/sites/default/files/301105_standard.png)
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/hotel-business-recovering-but-slowly
Would it make more sense to change the hotel portion to luxury apartments?
Quote from: Steve on July 06, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: MusicMan on July 03, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
How many units total? 107
And what remains of commercial or retail?
On the retail front Chase is building out the ground floor now.
Vagabond still plans to re-open downtown in the Barnett post-covid when foot traffic picks back up.
Quote from: thelakelander on July 06, 2020, 09:49:45 AM
Really worried about the feasibility of the Trio hotel plan. Seems it will take a while for DT hotel occupancy rates to rebound to normal levels. Out of all the hotel boom talk the last few years, only two have broken ground. That includes the Ambassador, which hasn't been active in a year.
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https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/hotel-business-recovering-but-slowly
I think what you're seeing in this picture highlights the importance of a downtown that is more than 9 to 5. The leisure business (aside from major events) has to be bad downtown. Other parts of the city benefit from things like a family visiting another family and need a place close by. The beaches has the tourism component.
Quote from: Steve on July 06, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: MusicMan on July 03, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
How many units total? 107
And what remains of commercial or retail?
On the retail front Chase is building out the ground floor now.
Frickin wonderful.......
The Barnett has hotel rooms? I must've missed that; didn't know there was a hotel in it.
^No it doesn't. Phase 2, which is the Laura Street Trio will. Mentioning both, I also wonder when construction will take place on the joint parking garage that VyStar will now build?
Quote from: thelakelander on July 07, 2020, 03:31:37 PM
^No it doesn't. Phase 2, which is the Laura Street Trio will. Mentioning both, I also wonder when construction will take place on the joint parking garage that VyStar will now build?
Thanx Lake!
Hoping they re paint the original Barnett National Bank logo on the west facing part of the building.
I'm hoping they bring back the time and temperature sign up top. Now they could use LED's.
^ Early in the process, I'm sure the developer said this would be restored. I hope that's still the plan, too.
Chase is putting signage on top of the building, though I don't think their signage is going to be on former clock face.
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/chase-bank-seeking-exception-for-two-signs-atop-the-barnett
Came into the office for a bit this morning.
Chase signage is now up.
Clock face appears to be gone, but the signage looks really nice, especially on the street-level.
Southeast just knocked this one out of the park.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KY13mM0F/Image-from-i-OS-16.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3xJDb6pk/Image-from-i-OS-17.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8zKr8HBt/Image-from-i-OS-18.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JZv17yM/Image-from-i-OS-19.jpg)
Happened to come into downtown for once.
Looks alright from a distance.
(https://i.imgur.com/VNyiUyz.jpg)
Are they leaving the remnants of the Barnett Bank sign up? Going to restore some or all of it?
I always looked to the clock and temperature sign in the old days when crossing the Main Street Bridge. The American Heritage Life building (now 11 East) also had a roof top sign that displayed moving ribbons of colors (I recall they were red, white and blue given the company name) indicating the weather forecast for the day.
Nice work! I really wish they could get moving on the Trio.
I would get rid of the "national bank" and leave Barnett up there, or just move it all altogether.