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Community => Politics => Topic started by: Murder_me_Rachel on March 20, 2017, 11:41:37 AM

Title: Daily Record poll
Post by: Murder_me_Rachel on March 20, 2017, 11:41:37 AM
From last week's Daily Record:




Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 20, 2017, 11:47:23 AM
Is it wrong that I'm pretty much under the assumption that every. single. digital. message is compromised?

Using that logic, I would say that sure, his lines were 'wiretapped'.  Do I think that Obama personally listened had it set up or listened in?  Not really.  He was at the end of his 2nd term and on the way out.  Why would he give 2 fucks what the new guy coming in was planning?
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Tacachale on March 20, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
Online polls of that nature say nothing about the actual readership of the Daily Record. It says that online polls are easily manipulated by people who really care one way or another about the subject and vote with all their email addresses or whatever, and most people just ignore it.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: remc86007 on March 20, 2017, 12:07:19 PM
I think that Trump voters at this point are largely on the defensive and looking for outlets to justify "their guy."

I'm sure I'm not the only potential "no" vote that saw the poll, perceived it as the rough equivalent of being asked "is the sky blue?," and couldn't be bothered to vote.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Tacachale on March 20, 2017, 12:18:24 PM
Online surveys are flawed in that there's no way to get a statistically random sample. Even among Daily Record readers (I expect their readership is wider than one might think considering it's the official court paper and also has pretty solid downtown reporting) there would be no way to get a random sample without calling people. Otherwise, it's a battle between people who actually care, and the ones who care most will vote as many times as they can. The only surprising thing here is that the number isn't higher.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 20, 2017, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on March 20, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
Online polls of that nature say nothing about the actual readership of the Daily Record. It says that online polls are easily manipulated by people who really care one way or another about the subject and vote with all their email addresses or whatever, and most people just ignore it.

Think of it like one of the many "Noone" generated polls here... who really votes in them??
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: KenFSU on March 20, 2017, 12:19:57 PM
Daily Record doesn't post number of votes or total readership numbers, but I think it's fairly safe to guess that the margin of error for the poll well exceeds the 8% difference in votes.

And yes, just looking at the Daily Record's website, it doesn't appear that you need to be logged in to vote or anything. Casting multiple votes looks to be as easy as switching devices, going incognito/clearing your cookies, or, at worst, maybe using a VPN or proxy if it's IP based.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Downtown Osprey on March 20, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
Sad!
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Cheshire Cat on March 20, 2017, 12:36:55 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-s-comey-testifies-house-intel-committee-russia-n735696

Quote

The FBI director also dealt the president's credibility a blow when he said he "has no information that supports" Trump's allegation from two weeks ago that President Obama ordered surveillance of his communications in Trump Tower during the campaign.

Only courts grant permission for electronic surveillance, Comey told lawmakers, and "no individual in the United States can direct electronic surveillance of anyone."
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Captain Zissou on March 20, 2017, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on March 20, 2017, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on March 20, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
Online polls of that nature say nothing about the actual readership of the Daily Record. It says that online polls are easily manipulated by people who really care one way or another about the subject and vote with all their email addresses or whatever, and most people just ignore it.

Think of it like one of the many "Noone" generated polls here... who really votes in them??

ME.... and those Baltimore guys.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: Jim on March 20, 2017, 01:47:31 PM
As someone in computer networking and telecommunications, I can tell you Trump's claims are unsurprisingly bogus.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: I-10east on March 20, 2017, 07:48:41 PM
Most conservatives: Obama wiretapped Trump Tower, and Trump had no connection with the Kremlin.
Most liberals: Trump Tower wasn't wiretapped, and Trump knowingly conspired with Putin to sabotage Hillary in the election.

That JDR poll is basically a political mud slinging contest. I'm just staying tuned til further notice for as those two allegations, although both are looking like nothing burgers so far.
Title: Re: Daily Record poll
Post by: spuwho on March 20, 2017, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: Noone on March 20, 2017, 09:17:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 20, 2017, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on March 20, 2017, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on March 20, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
Online polls of that nature say nothing about the actual readership of the Daily Record. It says that online polls are easily manipulated by people who really care one way or another about the subject and vote with all their email addresses or whatever, and most people just ignore it.

Think of it like one of the many "Noone" generated polls here... who really votes in them??

ME.... and those Baltimore guys.

Baltimore guys 2014-412. LOSERS!

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