Just a heads up for those attending. I called the campaign headquarters to check on bringing a collapsable lawn chair, and they said no. They also said that cameras and video recorders will not be allowed. In short, bring a cell phone if you want pics...
If you are not going, then please don't waste time posting a negative response. I know it pains some of you to not be cynical & pedantic regarding anything that does not line up with your particular brand of politics. Thanks.
Have fun and be sure to post about your experience.
Quote from: gradco2004 on September 19, 2008, 06:25:03 PM
Just a heads up for those attending. I called the campaign headquarters to check on bringing a collapsable lawn chair, and they said no. They also said that cameras and video recorders will not be allowed. In short, bring a cell phone if you want pics...
If you are not going, then please don't waste time posting a negative response. I know it pains some of you to not be cynical & pedantic regarding anything that does not line up with your particular brand of politics. Thanks.
amen!
I can't attend, but look forward to hearing from those who do....like Lake said, have fun!
Bummer about the cameras. Thanks for the heads-up though, I'd hate to have to turn back after standing in line.
Thanks for the heads up - I'd read about video cams, but didn't realize it included still cameras (which, if digital can record video, but ..)
Think they will include cam-phones?
Wonder why Barack will not allow us to have video cameras. Afraid someone will catch him in yet another gaffe?
I only wish he was visiting Eureka Gardens so he could see what element some of his programs maybe wasted on.
He probably doesn't want people to catch him using the race card again. Like he did the last time he was here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0pc-fMybbM
0:35 seconds in
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Quote from: gradco2004 on September 19, 2008, 06:25:03 PM
Just a heads up for those attending. I called the campaign headquarters to check on bringing a collapsable lawn chair, and they said no. They also said that cameras and video recorders will not be allowed. In short, bring a cell phone if you want pics...
If you are not going, then please don't waste time posting a negative response. I know it pains some of you to not be cynical & pedantic regarding anything that does not line up with your particular brand of politics. Thanks.
QuoteObama rally today: What to know
By The Times-Union
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama will campaign in Jacksonville today. Thousands are expected to gather for the Illinois senator's speech at Metropolitan Park.
Where do I go?
Metropolitan Park is across the street from Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, at 1410 Gator Bowl Blvd.
When do I go?
Park gates open at 12:30 p.m. The event begins at 2:30 p.m.
Do I need a ticket?
No. Organizers have asked those who attend to register, but people are welcome without reservations. Those attending are encouraged to arrive early, as the gates may have to close if the park reaches capacity.
Any restrictions?
Normal park rules do not apply.
Those who attend will not be allowed to have the following:
- Food or beverage
- Chairs of any kind
- Bags, backpacks or fanny packs larger than 8? inches by 11 inches
- Coolers or picnic baskets
- Video cameras
- Roller skates or inline skates
- Noisemakers, horns or whistles
- Balls, Frisbees, poles or sticks
- Weapons (including licensed guns)
- Signs or flags larger than 2 feet by 3 feet
- Bicycles, pets or umbrellas
What can I take?
- Blankets are allowed for general seating.
- Strollers and diaper bags will be permitted, but are subject to search.
Where do I park?
The stadium lots will be open at no charge.
Better bring a raincoat!
What do they have to hide by suppressing cameras/video cameras?? Talk about hyper-control.
Since it is a public gathering at a public park, I see no legal means of preventing people from bringing their cameras.
1. The list doesn't say still-shot cameras...so assume they can be used
2. I dout there's anything to hide...after all, the news media is still there filiming...so if something gets said or done, its on tape anyway.
I hope he doesn't make another anti guns and church statement. ::)
There are a lot of people attending.
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No cell phones either. Lines are long.
Quote from: willydenn on September 20, 2008, 01:50:19 PM
I hope he doesn't make another anti guns and church statement. ::)
Why? Do you bring your guns to church on Sunday?
It was pretty packed out there. According to CNN, there's around 12,000 inside the park and another 6,000 outside.
There's also a plane flying around that says Florida is McCain and Palin Country.
Haha, gotta love it. Hope the rally is going as well as the gator game so far...
Quote from: thelakelander on September 20, 2008, 03:28:39 PM
There's also a plane flying around that says Florida is McCain and Palin Country.
Today's Jacksonville rally is getting some international press attention, though more for the protest than the stump speech. Fox News, ABC, newswires AFP and UPI, and others focused on the messages of the two banner-toting planes flying over head during the Obama gathering.
Attendance statistics cited ranged from 10k-12,000 in the park with 6k-8,000 outside of the park--a nice turnout considering the late announcement, the day's rain, and competition from Florida college football.
Quote from: Lunican on September 20, 2008, 02:15:39 PM
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Wow, i don't think i'd ever like any candidate enough to wait in that line...
Quote from: stephendare on September 20, 2008, 07:00:48 PM
Anyways. One thing was apparent. Jacksonville is one of the most conservative cities of the union when it comes to political activities, and this was a MASSIVE show of support for the candidate.
McCain's rally famously could not scrape up 3000 people in support.
Im just saying. He doesnt have a shot in hell.
I thought the same thing, and I was locked out of the event myself since I didn't get out of work until two or so...but. becareful about going off the rally attendance numbers. McCain's supporters don't seem like the rally types. I hope it's a blow out but you never know. They are called the silent majority for a reason. I just hope everyone that was there today actually votes.
p.s. nice dick move with the plane banner there 'publicans. You just can't back off for one day can ya?
Florida is never anyone's country, it does always come down to the wire here.
Like StephenDare and David, I was locked out about 100 feet from the main entrance gate. Most of us acknowledged the fact that we weren't going to make it in, so we just kind of hung out and fortunately we could still hear the speakers. I was a little shocked that the main gate was not only padlocked, but they also brought in barricades as a secondary reinforcement. I thought it a bit ironic that just a week after The Pearl fiasco, I found JSO locking 15,000 people inside with padlocks and barricades. ::) I was also surprised by how much open space was still left in the park. Was the Fire Marshall actually counting or did it just get to the point where he thought the park was full enough? Hmmm.
The lines were long, but people were in great spirits and it was nice to be around others who share the same beliefs I do. Everyone there was fired up and ready to pitch in and answer the call to vote Obama/Biden this November. It's been great for this city to have both McCain and Obama make campaign stops here. Their stops help people feel more involved in the election process, which is great. It also makes Jacksonville an important stop for future elections.
And the planes...what a waste of fuel. What did they hope to accomplish? I guess if you are a Republican you can afford to waste money. ;D
I took the wife and kids to the rally, but like lots of other people didn't make it in before they locked the gates. We ended up listening with thousands of others in the kids campus area. The crowds were huge and enthusiastic. In 2004, we went to a Kerry rally at the Landing. The differences between these two events was dramatic. I've never seen any political event quite like it. Glad I was there.
Some of my family members came from Atlanta and Tampa to see the event. My wife took the kids down there around noon. I did not plan on heading that way, but she called me an hour later to come get the kids before she killed them. I had to park a mile away so I could get in and out of there to get home before the 3:30 games started. It was nice to see such a diverse crowd with upbeat spirits show up. The lines were some of the longest I've ever seen and even those turned away seemed to not be upset about it.
The enthusiasm of today reminded me of John Kerry's rally in Madison, WI back in 2004. The 80,000 people there was one of the biggest in the state's history and attending it was amazing. People in WI are so much more passionate about politics. I grew up being very involved. I remember my parents taking me out of school to go to political rallies, and all my friends' parents did the same thing. People there also hold higher standards for their elected officials. Recalls are a common occurrence. When I moved to Jacksonville, I was surprised at how uninvolved people were here. No one seemed to care about anything. Today was the first time I've witnessed people fired up about bettering their lives. It was great to see and made me feel at home. :D
Quote from: David on September 20, 2008, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: stephendare on September 20, 2008, 07:00:48 PM
Anyways. One thing was apparent. Jacksonville is one of the most conservative cities of the union when it comes to political activities, and this was a MASSIVE show of support for the candidate.
McCain's rally famously could not scrape up 3000 people in support.
Im just saying. He doesnt have a shot in hell.
I thought the same thing, and I was locked out of the event myself since I didn't get out of work until two or so...but. becareful about going off the rally attendance numbers. McCain's supporters don't seem like the rally types. I hope it's a blow out but you never know. They are called the silent majority for a reason. I just hope everyone that was there today actually votes.
p.s. nice dick move with the plane banner there 'publicans. You just can't back off for one day can ya?
Florida is never anyone's country, it does always come down to the wire here.
Wise words. No one can say with confidence which candidate will win. The debates will be VERY important and they haven't even begun. States like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are uncomfortably close for Obama. On the other hand, Obama is at 51% in the Gallop daily tracking poll, which is I believe his highest percentage yet, and is 6% higher than McCain.
Obama had at least as big a crowd at the U of SC stadium last winter, and he isn't going to win here.
I got there around 11 with my mom, brother, son and some friends & neighbors. We were probably about 50 feet away from Obama. It was such a diverse crowd. I was near a group of about 10 kids from Stanton, an eldery white couple, an older black man and a young Indian couple. It was quite a site to see.
I loved all the positive energy that was there and the people. I was at Kids Campus and everyone was having a good time. I was so proud of my community! :D
Many people thought the presumptuous signs in the air were hilarious, and I think it actually motivated people to help get out the vote!
Are we only allowed to say positive things here about Obama then?
Well that would make sense, it is a thread about Obama. I think this is the only safe haven from Obama bashers in this town. Why not try out the jacksonville.com & firstcoastnews message boards for your right wing rhetoric? He apparently is going to enslave the white race according to them.
I'm a blue, you're a red, let's have a tied together knife fight!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 21, 2008, 01:53:49 AM
Are we only allowed to say positive things here about Obama then?
uh... that would be the assumption...
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 21, 2008, 01:53:49 AM
Are we only allowed to say positive things here about Obama then?
If you went to the rally, please feel free to describe your experience.
Quote from: Midway on September 20, 2008, 02:25:25 PM
Quote from: willydenn on September 20, 2008, 01:50:19 PM
I hope he doesn't make another anti guns and church statement. ::)
Why? Do you bring your guns to church on Sunday?
i think we covered this in another thread, but - yes.
i'm sorry i missed the rally. i bet i could've made a KILLING selling BHO merchandise to all the Obamacons there!!!
Quote from: gradco2004 on September 21, 2008, 02:52:49 AM
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 21, 2008, 01:53:49 AM
Are we only allowed to say positive things here about Obama then?
uh... that would be the assumption...
hmmm.... is this how things will be if he (He?) is elected. that's pretty scary.
Quote from: Driven1 on September 21, 2008, 08:56:30 PM
i'm sorry i missed the rally. i bet i could've made a KILLING selling BHO merchandise to all the Obamacons there!!!
Yes you could of. Some of my family members drove down from Atlanta to sell t-shirts and raked up a pretty big profit.
Quote from: Driven1 on September 21, 2008, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: gradco2004 on September 21, 2008, 02:52:49 AM
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 21, 2008, 01:53:49 AM
Are we only allowed to say positive things here about Obama then?
uh... that would be the assumption...
hmmm.... is this how things will be if he (He?) is elected. that's pretty scary.
We have a ton of threads in the political section for snide remarks and debates. Considering this is a thread about an event that took place in Jacksonville and not on policy, there's no reason to bring the political debates to this thread.
I agree. However, if this is to be a non-political thread just covering the rally then why are posts containing McCain bashing being posted?
Good question. Everything was fine and on target, until post #6 in this thread. Nevertheless, I agree, there should be no bashing of either candidate here.
i look forward to a similar thread on the Sarah Palin event in a few weeks. i doubt that it will be so voraciously defended by the moderators though.
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As long as its a thread similar to this topic and placed in the right subforum, it will be fine. Now lets stick with the topic.
Terrific picture, lake. ;D
personal insults are definitely the way to go!
Will anybody from this board be attending the Palin event? It looks like it's during the week again.
Quote from: copperfiend on September 22, 2008, 10:48:40 AM
Will anybody from this board be attending the Palin event? It looks like it's during the week again.
i will probably try to make it...what time?
I am going to see Palin....even if I have to use annual leave. See you there! maybe we can draw 60,000....what a huge crowd.
10/7, Palin will be here. No time or event info yet.
Quote from: Driven1 on September 22, 2008, 08:58:43 AM
i look forward to a similar thread on the Sarah Palin event in a few weeks. i doubt that it will be so voraciously defended by the moderators though.
Here is an example of a McCain thread that Obama supporters did not feel the need to destroy: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,3195.0.html
Lunican, that's hilarious ;D Thanks for the link to the pro McCain thread. How sad that the republicans have nothing to talk about on their own, so they resort to bashing the other side. The enthusiasm for their candidate coming to town was as exciting as my grandpa standing in front of a green screen. ;)
Quote from: brainstormer on September 24, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
Lunican, that's hilarious ;D Thanks for the link to the pro McCain thread. How sad that the republicans have nothing to talk about on their own, so they resort to bashing the other side.
speaking of that...
Quotestudy shows Obama running more negative ads than McCain...
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,3220.0.html
That's fine, Driven. The ads are a bunch of lies on both sides, and I would hope people wouldn't decide who to vote for based on only them.
Personally, I'm looking forward to this Friday's debate...unless of course we can postpone until next week. McCain needs to stop whining. Is this what he would do as president? Postpone things so he can focus on one issue at a time?
Quote from: brainstormer on September 24, 2008, 08:09:27 PM
That's fine, Driven. The ads are a bunch of lies on both sides, and I would hope people wouldn't decide who to vote for based on only them.
Personally, I'm looking forward to this Friday's debate...unless of course we can postpone until next week. McCain needs to stop whining. Is this what he would do as president? Postpone things so he can focus on one issue at a time?
yeah, you sound like someone who is open to hearing ideas from across the party aisle.
Quote from: brainstormer on September 24, 2008, 08:09:27 PM
That's fine, Driven. The ads are a bunch of lies on both sides, and I would hope people wouldn't decide who to vote for based on only them.
Personally, I'm looking forward to this Friday's debate...unless of course we can postpone until next week. McCain needs to stop whining. Is this what he would do as president? Postpone things so he can focus on one issue at a time?
Considering that McCain offered 10 town hall style debates with Obama over this past summer and Obama ducked them, I hardly think McCain is afraid to debate. Perhaps McCain is telling the truth - he really does want to get this credit crisis solved before moving on with the campaign. There are some things more important than politics...
"I must tell you, there are those in the public debate who have said that we must act now. The last time I heard that, I was on a used-car lot," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Indiana. "The truth is, every time somebody tells you that you've got to do the deal right now, it usually means they're going to get the better part of the deal."
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on September 24, 2008, 10:38:16 PM
"I must tell you, there are those in the public debate who have said that we must act now. The last time I heard that, I was on a used-car lot," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Indiana. "The truth is, every time somebody tells you that you've got to do the deal right now, it usually means they're going to get the better part of the deal."
fine - if "they" the gov't gets the better part of the deal, send me a check on the growth.
The better part of the deal is more power.
Quote from: copperfiend on September 22, 2008, 12:50:58 PM
10/7, Palin will be here. No time or event info yet.
The Palin event is on 7-Oct-08 at Noon, and there is a $500 minimum contribution...
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=120025&catid=3