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Title: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on August 22, 2008, 05:00:00 AM
Minimum Setbacks: Savannah

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The art of building placement is a critical element in creating a vibrant urban atmosphere.  Savannah's recent infill development gives us a look at a scene that embraces minimum building setbacks.

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Title: Re: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: Abhishek on August 22, 2008, 08:36:27 AM
unless you live car free, such an environment dictates some sort of a parking garrage which will cost the residents money to use. I saw this in Washington DC and it was very walkable. Parking was minimal and there was some need to drive around if the one spot in front of the building was taken. But we didnt use the car much at all, so it didnt matter. The Malcom X park and the Metro station were within walkable distance, so was Target, Whole Foods and Safeway.
Title: Re: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: Joe on August 22, 2008, 09:14:45 AM
I have a question about the terminology.

Aren't these kinds of zero-lot-line developments usually governed by "maximum" setback rules? In other words, the zoning prescribed the maximum setback they are allowed to have, rather than the minimum setback they have to have?

Or are the terms interchangeable?
Title: Re: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: tufsu1 on August 22, 2008, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: Joe on August 22, 2008, 09:14:45 AM
I have a question about the terminology.

Aren't these kinds of zero-lot-line developments usually governed by "maximum" setback rules? In other words, the zoning prescribed the maximum setback they are allowed to have, rather than the minimum setback they have to have?

Or are the terms interchangeable?

generally, you are correct....places like Savannah often limit the setbacks and use the term maximum setback...other places keep the term minimum setback and allow you to go to zero
Title: Re: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: thelakelander on August 22, 2008, 05:35:27 PM
Quote from: Abhishek on August 22, 2008, 08:36:27 AM
unless you live car free, such an environment dictates some sort of a parking garrage which will cost the residents money to use. I saw this in Washington DC and it was very walkable. Parking was minimal and there was some need to drive around if the one spot in front of the building was taken. But we didnt use the car much at all, so it didnt matter. The Malcom X park and the Metro station were within walkable distance, so was Target, Whole Foods and Safeway.

This is true when density levels reach a certain point.  However, in our case, it would be moving parking lots from the front to the back of the buildings.  This is proving to be quite successful in sunbelt cities like Norfolk, Charlotte and Atlanta.
Title: Re: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: thelakelander on August 22, 2008, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Joe on August 22, 2008, 09:14:45 AM
I have a question about the terminology.

Aren't these kinds of zero-lot-line developments usually governed by "maximum" setback rules? In other words, the zoning prescribed the maximum setback they are allowed to have, rather than the minimum setback they have to have?

Or are the terms interchangeable?

Yes, the Springfield Overlay is a good example of this.  If you build on land classified as CCG-S, there are maximum setbacks that your project will have to fall within.  This way, its impossible to get a surface parking lot between the building and the sidewalk without having to apply for a PUD or variance.
Title: Re: Minimum Setbacks: Savannah
Post by: nicktooch on August 23, 2008, 08:29:22 AM
i love how the hotel are just part of the building, no extra facade, no outparcel suburban look like jax.  i hate to admit it sometimes, but when we do these looks at other cities it gets me excited about moving... living anywhere but here lol.