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Title: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: thelakelander on February 07, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
QuoteBy Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor

(http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/storyimages/1486483719Doro-page-3.jpg)

When buyers of the George Doro Fixture Co. property in the Stadium District bought the site almost a year ago, they talked about their vision for the property.
They saw food-related uses, offices and residences at the former manufacturing site that would tie in with the neighboring former Noland Building they own that is occupied by Intuition Ale Works and Manifest Distilling.

Talk could be turning into action.

Iconic Real Estate Investments LLC wants to redevelop the Doro site and encompass the former Noland Building into a project called the Doro District.

"We want to redesign and reimagine that area that's been dormant," said Iconic Investments president Farley Grainger.

The Downtown Development Review Board is slated to look at a conceptual plan next week to redevelop the Doro site.

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549301
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on February 07, 2017, 11:39:45 AM
Seems like a great idea for a great location
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Tacachale on February 07, 2017, 11:56:28 AM
Does sound cool. So I guess they're tearing down the building marked as "Phase II"? Seems like an odd spot for a parking lot when they already have one.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Captain Zissou on February 07, 2017, 12:12:43 PM
^ The interim parking lot doesn't make sense to me either.  Why not just link the two existing lots?  It seems like that would allow them to have the highest number of spaces while taking up the lowest portion of the site.  As is, they're going to have duplicated entrances and redundant circulation lanes for 2 lots.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: thelakelander on February 07, 2017, 12:14:07 PM
That structure isn't in as good enough shape as the rest of the buildings on-site. From my tours of the buildings, they have always said they envisioned replacing it with new construction infill. The parking is temporary.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: KenFSU on February 07, 2017, 01:51:35 PM
Sounds like momentum.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Dapperdan on February 07, 2017, 02:09:58 PM
Can they not work out a deal with the huge parking garage next door?
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: remc86007 on February 07, 2017, 03:32:19 PM
^ Yeah, it blows my mind when I struggle to find parking for Intuition only to drive by the garage and find it closed...

This project, being closer to the garage, should definitely figure out a way to get that garage open all the time. It seems like there should be a way to modernize the garages downtown so that they don't require parking attendants.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Tacachale on February 07, 2017, 03:46:38 PM
They worked out parking in the lot under the Hart Expressway ramps, but it's probably not available yet. Presumably that's why the long term plan here shows no actual parking on the block.

At any rate, I'm excited to see things moving forward.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: tufsu1 on February 07, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
^ I believe it became available this past weekend
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: pierre on February 08, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
I like the bowling component. I saw some bars in Milwaukee that had these, with only a handful of lanes. It gives it a cool vibe.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: JohnnyG on February 08, 2017, 11:10:57 AM
They should find a way to add in a space for live music ala the Brooklyn Bowl venues in Brooklyn (NY) and Las Vegas and host smaller acts and after- parties  for shows at the arena and amphitheater. 
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: thelakelander on February 08, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
^I believe the outdoor green space could be utilized for live music and a rotating mix of other active uses.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Spitfire on February 08, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on February 07, 2017, 03:46:38 PM
They worked out parking in the lot under the Hart Expressway ramps, but it's probably not available yet. Presumably that's why the long term plan here shows no actual parking on the block.

At any rate, I'm excited to see things moving forward.

Lot K is open on non-event days.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: BridgeTroll on February 08, 2017, 01:02:43 PM
Why are our event parking garages and lots in the stadium district not automated and open 24/7/365?  Why do they require a staff of people to take your money, give change, tear of a ticket and tell you where to park?

(http://www.trafficandsafety.com/DSC00010.jpg)
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: acme54321 on February 08, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 08, 2017, 01:02:43 PM
Why are our event parking garages and lots in the stadium district not automated and open 24/7/365?  Why do they require a staff of people to take your money, give change, tear of a ticket and tell you where to park?

(http://www.trafficandsafety.com/DSC00010.jpg)

I was in the Ed Ball deck the other day and apparently now you pay via a pay station with a cred it card but there is a person that still sits in the booth doing nothing.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Todd_Parker on February 08, 2017, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on February 08, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 08, 2017, 01:02:43 PM
Why are our event parking garages and lots in the stadium district not automated and open 24/7/365?  Why do they require a staff of people to take your money, give change, tear of a ticket and tell you where to park?

(http://www.trafficandsafety.com/DSC00010.jpg)

I was in the Ed Ball deck the other day and apparently now you pay via a pay station with a cred it card but there is a person that still sits in the booth doing nothing.

People might feel a bit more secure knowing there was an attendant present.

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-551990d5/turbine/la-et-st-better-call-saul-recap-mike-needs-cas-001/750/750x422)
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: JaxJersey-licious on February 08, 2017, 03:22:30 PM
^^^^^I see what you did, sir...

It'S Aul Good, Man  8)
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: KenFSU on February 08, 2017, 03:59:51 PM
^You better have your ticket.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: tufsu1 on February 08, 2017, 11:26:19 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on February 08, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
I was in the Ed Ball deck the other day and apparently now you pay via a pay station with a cred it card but there is a person that still sits in the booth doing nothing.

this is common in many cities.  Imagine what happens when the machine doesn't work or can't read your credit card....you'll be very thankful a person is still there!
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: KenFSU on February 09, 2017, 01:37:13 PM
Reading Mike's below article and doing some research on Pinewood Social in Nashville has totally got me hyped for this project.

I didn't quite "get" what they were going for at first, but a "third place" concept would be amazing in that area.

http://www.moderncities.com/article/2017-feb-downtown-bowling-alley-opening-in-2017

Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: thelakelander on February 09, 2017, 01:51:27 PM
^That's fieldafm's article but Pinewood Social is nice and the group behind Doro has done their homework.  I'm looking forward to seeing the end result.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: KenFSU on February 09, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 09, 2017, 01:51:27 PM
^That's fieldafm's article but Pinewood Social is nice and the group behind Doro has done their homework.  I'm looking forward to seeing the end result.

Duly edited!
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: CG7 on February 09, 2017, 03:03:53 PM
In the renderings it looks like the building with the awesome new mural is gone. Please tell me that is not the case.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: thelakelander on February 09, 2017, 03:20:57 PM
The renderings and plans show the buildings with the murals remaining.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: jaxnyc79 on February 10, 2017, 12:14:05 PM
In comparison with other cities with vibrant urban/in-town districts, is it standard practice that a development like this would need to go through a required parking exception (34 street-side spaces as opposed to an 83 space requirement)?
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Steve on February 10, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
It's a little crazy to have the requirement, but I can't fathom this denied because of the parking requirement.
Title: Re: Doro could add bowling alley, bar and retail near EverBank Field
Post by: Steve on May 16, 2017, 09:12:40 AM
A pair of Downtown redevelopment projects can take another step forward Wednesday at the Downtown Investment Authority monthly board meeting.
The DIA could award development rights for the Laura Street Trio and The Doro District.

.................

Further east, A. Philip Randolph LLC wants to secure development rights for a 55,500-square-foot commercial, retail and entertainment project.

Iconic Real Estate Investments LLC plans to transform a vacant industrial building at Forsyth Street and A. Philip Randolph Boulevard into an entertainment complex called The Doro District.

The mixed-use project was approved by the Downtown Development Review Board in April.

Renderings show a bowling alley, bar and restaurant on one side, and a large outdoor space on the other. In addition to traditional retail, the space could also feature temporary events like pop-up shops and street fairs.

Iconic previously redeveloped the building next door, home to Intuition Ale Works and Manifest Distilling.

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549860