The Bread & Board Coming To Five Points
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Portland bistro owners expanding into Jacksonville, choosing to locate in Five Points over Asheville, NC and Greenville, SC. Owners hope to be catalyst for sparking redevelopment opportunities along often overlooked Oak Street.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2016-dec-the-bread-board-coming-to-five-points
Here's the website of the Portland bistro: http://www.boxedcateringpdx.com/ Looks good!
This is very exciting for the neighborhood.
I ran into one of the owners of Tapa That yesterday and told me the reason they shut down is because a new landlord jacked up their rent. Luckily, the restaurant that backfilled the space bought out their lease. Otherwise they would have incurred huge financial losses if they weren't able to stay in business until their lease was to end in October 2017. It's my assumption that Deep Search is closing for similar reasons.
Most of Jacksonville's urban commercial areas are linear spaces along one main street: St. Johns Ave in Avondale, Edgewood in Murray Hill, San Marco Blvd and Hendricks in San Marco, Main Street in Springfield. As the areas get more popular, the real estate gets more pricey and pushes quality vendors out or farther down the road. People aren't always willing to go a half mile down the street, but they will likely walk one block over. I hope this new business can establish Oak street as a secondary commercial corridor for 5 points where the quality local vendors can pay a little less in rent to get their concept off the ground. It's a shame what happened to Tapa That and Deep Search, not to mention Burro Bar and Chomp Chomp in downtown, but as commercial areas expand I hope there can still be room for the mom & pop's (or brother and sister's in this case).
Is this likely to run into opposition over parking and such? Hopefully not, but it wouldn't be the first time in that neighborhood. Is there any zoning changed needed
wow looks good. Agree about Oak St.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on December 13, 2016, 09:49:54 AM
I ran into one of the owners of Tapa That yesterday and told me the reason they shut down is because a new landlord jacked up their rent. Luckily, the restaurant that backfilled the space bought out their lease. Otherwise they would have incurred huge financial losses if they weren't able to stay in business until their lease was to end in October 2017.
I'm a little confused that their landlord was able to jack up their rent and require them to honor the remainder of their lease? Unless this was a pre negotiated rent increase not sure how that worked.
I'm similarly confused. If they had a lease until 10/2017 then any rent increases/escalations would have been pre-negotiated at lease inception. Perhaps they simply couldn't keep up with the escalations.. it happens.
Quote from: vicupstate on December 13, 2016, 09:54:14 AM
Is this likely to run into opposition over parking and such? Hopefully not, but it wouldn't be the first time in that neighborhood. Is there any zoning changed needed
It's in the Urban Transition Area, so it should be fine.
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on December 13, 2016, 10:22:00 AM
wow looks good. Agree about Oak St.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on December 13, 2016, 09:49:54 AM
I ran into one of the owners of Tapa That yesterday and told me the reason they shut down is because a new landlord jacked up their rent. Luckily, the restaurant that backfilled the space bought out their lease. Otherwise they would have incurred huge financial losses if they weren't able to stay in business until their lease was to end in October 2017.
I'm a little confused that their landlord was able to jack up their rent and require them to honor the remainder of their lease? Unless this was a pre negotiated rent increase not sure how that worked.
Max, I'm not sure the specifics. Maybe they had a one year renewal option and that came with a rent increase..? Maybe they agreed to the increase but didn't realize the impact to their bottom line... Not sure. It does seem like this is happening a lot in commercial areas. I ran into Michael at biscotti's where he now works (he's also working at Catering by Liz). Somebody may want to catch up with him at one of those places for the full story.
1) Who owns the building across the street where Vesta is and the open lot? Is it Riverside Presbyterian? That is prime for redevelopment soon.
2) When is Hoptinger supposed to open at this point?
Quote from: FlaBoy on December 13, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
1) Who owns the building across the street where Vesta is and the open lot? Is it Riverside Presbyterian? That is prime for redevelopment soon.
2) When is Hoptinger supposed to open at this point?
Hoptinger is already hiring staff, so it can't be too long.
I'm hopeful that this place does well. The concept is very similar to Butcher & Bee. This will be a nice spot to take my clients and vendors to for lunch.
With this area growing / spreading out is there any possibility of a garage going in? Are there any locations where one could conveniently fit? It's already pretty difficult to find parking at peak times depending on where you're going. If Winter Park could put in garages that are tucked away I don't see why 5 Points can't.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on December 13, 2016, 09:49:54 AM
This is very exciting for the neighborhood.
I ran into one of the owners of Tapa That yesterday and told me the reason they shut down is because a new landlord jacked up their rent. Luckily, the restaurant that backfilled the space bought out their lease. Otherwise they would have incurred huge financial losses if they weren't able to stay in business until their lease was to end in October 2017. It's my assumption that Deep Search is closing for similar reasons.
Most of Jacksonville's urban commercial areas are linear spaces along one main street: St. Johns Ave in Avondale, Edgewood in Murray Hill, San Marco Blvd and Hendricks in San Marco, Main Street in Springfield. As the areas get more popular, the real estate gets more pricey and pushes quality vendors out or farther down the road. People aren't always willing to go a half mile down the street, but they will likely walk one block over. I hope this new business can establish Oak street as a secondary commercial corridor for 5 points where the quality local vendors can pay a little less in rent to get their concept off the ground. It's a shame what happened to Tapa That and Deep Search, not to mention Burro Bar and Chomp Chomp in downtown, but as commercial areas expand I hope there can still be room for the mom & pop's (or brother and sister's in this case).
Exactly right, and this is the entire reason we closed our SmartFlyer office on Stockton. Insane price jump (borderline usurious). Everyone asks if we went out of business, and the answer is no - we just didn't want to pay 30%++ more.
So...I feel for Tapa That and the others closing. Sucks when landlords get ahead of themselves and make the barrier for entry even higher.
As the smaller spots get priced out in rising areas like 5 Points, it presents new opportunities for emerging neighborhoods. That's a lot of what we've seen happen in King Street and Murray Hill. Now that they're filling up, it'll be interesting to see what comes next.
Does anybody know when this place opens? I walked by last night but I couldn't tell if they were open for business yet.
They are open today.
Yesterday, the City made them temporarily close in order to replace bathroom doors to be in ADA compliance... after initially signing off on those same doors last week :)
Have been twice this week. The food is spectacular and the space is unrecognizable from the old Richards. The outdoor seating area in the front of the restaurant (there is also seating in the rear of the building) should be getting screens installed over the wood structure next week.
A truly great addition to Riverside.
I went for lunch. Food was great, but it took a long time. I understood that they are still getting into the swing of things. Other people were jerks about it and it had a very negative impact on my meal.
Quote from: fieldafm on April 14, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
They are open today.
Yesterday, the City made them temporarily close in order to replace bathroom doors to be in ADA compliance... after initially signing off on those same doors last week :)
Have been twice this week. The food is spectacular and the space is unrecognizable from the old Richards. The outdoor seating area in the front of the restaurant (there is also seating in the rear of the building) should be getting screens installed over the wood structure next week.
A truly great addition to Riverside.
Will be interesting to see what it looks like when all finished.
I visited this place for the first time last week. I have been there 3 times in the last week. This place is awesome! I can't wait to try their brunch items soon.
Is the porch area finished yet?
Quote from: RatTownRyan on June 22, 2017, 10:19:17 PM
Is the porch area finished yet?
The porch area is still unfinished.
I have been here a few times now and really like the place. Always excellent service and they are eager to let you sample food and drinks to find what you like best.
I don't know the specifics but the outside area is being held up by the city. The area is now fenced off and the ground is dug up around all the supports. It should be an awesome spot once the weather cools.