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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: thelakelander on July 22, 2008, 09:09:52 AM

Title: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: thelakelander on July 22, 2008, 09:09:52 AM
The small parcel in question (628 Duval) has 26.5 feet of frontage on Duval Street and is 100 feet deep.  Its a mid block location with no vehicular access to the rear of the property and is less than a block from the new proposed courthouse site.  Its ideal for any urban pioneers out there looking to get their feet wet with a small project or urban residence.

QuoteDowntown Retail Recruitment
• The JEDC/City of Jacksonville Procurement Department will issue an RFP for two city-owned properties in the LaVilla area of Downtown: 324 N. Broad Street (a .08-acre site with a 4,000 sq. ft., two-story structure) and 628 Duval Street (a .05-acre vacant site for a surface parking lot).  The RFP is scheduled to open at the end of July.  Click on link below to view the JEDC RFP Web site.  Interested parties should contact Diane Farmer with the city's Procurement Department at 630-1168 or dfarmer@coj.net.

http://www.coj.net/Departments/Jacksonville+Economic+Development+Commission/JEDC+Information/Real+Estate+RFPs.htm
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: Jason on July 22, 2008, 09:12:11 AM
Why is the city still doing this crap!!!
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: thelakelander on July 22, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
No vision?  I'm just getting back from the Northeast.  Its amazing what you can squeeze on lots this size.  With the lot only being 26' wide, I don't think its wide enough to use for parking, unless all you want is two or three spaces.  However, its perfect for an urban condo/apartment or two.
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: jason_contentdg on July 22, 2008, 10:23:10 AM
But what if we painted it to look like a rooftop, so when you're flying directly above it looks like a building.  Wait, never mind, it will have all of those cars on it.
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: Jason on July 22, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
Maybe it should be painted to look like a black hole...
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: reednavy on July 22, 2008, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: Jason on July 22, 2008, 09:12:11 AM
Why is the city still doing this crap!!!

Because it is Jacksonville?
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: jacksonvilleconfidential on July 22, 2008, 11:31:31 AM
You guys are cracking me up
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: downtownparks on July 22, 2008, 12:05:14 PM
Are we talking about this lot? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=628+w+Duval+St+jacksonville+fl&sll=30.298642,-81.974182&sspn=0.006586,0.01369&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=30.332556,-81.664864&spn=0.006584,0.01369&z=17&cbll=30.330951,-81.664865&panoid=0NI5_Mz4EXDpOtsalEbPmw&cbp=1,192.71478034224893,,0,-1.4290901099730922
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: downtownparks on July 22, 2008, 12:07:09 PM
Im also assuming that 324 N Broad is one of these two buildings?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=324+N.+Broad+Street+jacksonville+fl&sll=30.332556,-81.664864&sspn=0.006584,0.01369&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=30.332685,-81.664767&spn=0.006584,0.01369&z=17&cbll=30.330568,-81.664518&panoid=jU_xKvFRMOir_-4-zjUGCQ&cbp=1,289.01802880377465,,0,-3.7222183948913465
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: thelakelander on July 22, 2008, 12:09:36 PM
Quote from: downtownparks on July 22, 2008, 12:05:14 PM
Are we talking about this lot? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=628+w+Duval+St+jacksonville+fl&sll=30.298642,-81.974182&sspn=0.006586,0.01369&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=30.332556,-81.664864&spn=0.006584,0.01369&z=17&cbll=30.330951,-81.664865&panoid=0NI5_Mz4EXDpOtsalEbPmw&cbp=1,192.71478034224893,,0,-1.4290901099730922

Its a piece of grass lot with the car parked in the back, on the other side of the fenced grass lot.
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: RiversideGator on July 22, 2008, 01:45:23 PM
I am not trying to be a contrarian, but developers are not exactly beating down the doors to build highrises downtown right now.  Having said that, I would prefer to see the City just auction these things off to the highest bidder at this time rather than do an RFP for a parking lot.
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: downtownparks on July 22, 2008, 02:58:08 PM
Lake, as I read the posting above, it is calling for an RFP for a parking lot, or is it simply stating that its currently being used as a parking lot. Or, is it as simple as, its expected to be used as a parking lot for the building on Broad?
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: thelakelander on July 22, 2008, 03:23:43 PM
DP, its confusing.  324 Broad does not have off-street parking, so using 628 Duval for parking does make since if its directly associated with 324 Broad.  Personally, I see more value in 628 Duval alone.  Ideally, its a small plot of land that should be cheaper to purchase and build something new on, as opposed to renovating 324 Broad.  Furthermore, the site's dimensions are conductive for use as a parking lot, unless one of the landowners next door would be willing to sell their parcel to combine the two.  I'm going to contact the city and see if I can find out more information about this upcoming RFP.
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: TREE4309 on July 22, 2008, 09:39:11 PM
I sent an email to the city regarding 324 N Broad St.
Title: Re: A new RFP for another surface parking lot?
Post by: gatorback on July 22, 2008, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 22, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: Jason on July 22, 2008, 09:12:11 AM
Why is the city still doing this crap!!!

because the city is bankrupt of leadership.  I don't care if the present property is a mile square boulevard set aside for the collection of cat litter.  The last damn thing downtown needs is another parking space.

In fact, the city should be heavily fining and penalizing all of the surface parking lots to see if we can provide some incentive to build something on the lot that isnt a net loss to the owner.

We should all of us be mad about this bullshit.

Density, building vertically, buildings open to street level traffic and walkable communities

This is the EXACT OPPOSITE.

Well, since FBC doesn't pay taxes what do you expect?  Jacksonville needs revenue right?