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Title: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on July 15, 2008, 05:00:00 AM
Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-5517-dsc_0027.JPG)

With the completion of the Peninsula condo tower, the Southbank of Downtown Jacksonville has a new tallest. Here is a sneak peak inside this nearly complete tower.

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/842
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: jeh1980 on July 15, 2008, 05:56:45 AM
Beautiful photos! Great heights. This is what downtown is all about. You can't get any better than that!  :D 8)
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 15, 2008, 07:05:07 AM
Wow... The fireworks will be exploding at eye level!!! :o :o
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: reednavy on July 15, 2008, 07:42:49 AM
Absolutely excellent product. Now, if only the Northbank in the central core would get towers like this, then it'd be really good.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: fsujax on July 15, 2008, 08:33:32 AM
What a great project.  It would be awesome to wake up to a view of Downtown everyday, if only it were affordable to most of us.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Pavers on July 15, 2008, 08:36:13 AM
Any chance that ground floor, riverwalk-facing retail actually gets filled?  Any idea what might go in there?  I guess a coffee/snack shop of some sort seems like the most logical candidate, at first blush.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: stephElf on July 15, 2008, 09:34:53 AM
:::: drool ::::

man o man i wish i could live in a place like that

what a stunning view, i could get used to that
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Eazy E on July 15, 2008, 09:53:59 AM
Any idea of what the top floor costs to own or rent? It looks amazing from the Main St. bridge, let alone those pictures.

Looks like a pretty sweet place to live.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Jason on July 15, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
Fantastic building.  The one shot from the top looking down make my stomache cringe.

So, its safe to say that the Peninsula is definitely the tallest on the southbank.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: reednavy on July 15, 2008, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: Pavers on July 15, 2008, 08:36:13 AM
Any chance that ground floor, riverwalk-facing retail actually gets filled?  Any idea what might go in there?  I guess a coffee/snack shop of some sort seems like the most logical candidate, at first blush.

Maybe a Starbucks?! :D
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: fpj on July 15, 2008, 10:57:19 AM
Gotta love the exit sign in the second picture of the top floor  :o
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: reednavy on July 15, 2008, 11:01:32 AM
This actually turned out better than I expected.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Ocklawaha on July 15, 2008, 11:01:59 AM
FOR SALE:

One Transportation Consultant

WILL WORK FOR CONDO!


Ocklawaha ;D
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 15, 2008, 12:58:45 PM
Once that place strarts filling up I would imagine that skyway ridership would increase.  The San Marco station is just a block or two away...
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: stug on July 15, 2008, 02:34:50 PM
I'm surprised they went with carpet in the units.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Driven1 on July 15, 2008, 02:48:32 PM
great pics!  wow - it really puts it into perspective how tall the thing is with that shot of SMP and the Strand next to it.  great story.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Jax2024 on July 15, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
This project turned out beautifully.  Not to plug, but I will:

3 Peninsula Units available for rent, high floors and exquisite views.

Varying sizes and prices available.  Message me if you are interested or if you know anyone interested in this  Southbank tower.  As people continue to move in, I think this area will become a great urban neighborhood in Jacksonville.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Jax2024 on July 15, 2008, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: stug on July 15, 2008, 02:34:50 PM
I'm surprised they went with carpet in the units.

Also, just an FYI.  Many of the units in the building don't have carpeting everywhere.  Owner's had significant options for upgrades including marble, tile, hardwoods, and varying carpet types.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Galois on July 15, 2008, 08:37:37 PM
I am doing some contracting work right now inside the peninsula around the 30th floors. the photos don't do justice to the downtown views of Jacksonville. IT is sooo  great, especially during lunch break when I get to sit on the balcony and watch all the cars on I -  95, the Main bridge, seeing the landing and etc. Or just opening the door to the place and seeing all of downtown, right down the hall. The location is really good too, a few steps from the Chart House, few steps from Ruth Chris, this place is bound to be successful.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: copperfiend on July 15, 2008, 09:23:04 PM
It would have been nice if Mortons had been part of a structure of this size. I hate that building every time I drive by it. Imagine if it had been part of a highrise hotel.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on July 15, 2008, 09:59:59 PM
Very nice, night time views I bet are awsome
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: rjp2008 on July 15, 2008, 10:52:53 PM
Well, it's a start. Residences - check. Workplaces - check. Entertainment destinations - need more.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 11:38:43 PM
I looked into these, as well as the Strand when they were briefly for sale and Berkman.  Here's the issue - the typical HOA fees are between 33 and 50 cents per sqFt, depending on the development.  Do the math - 1,000 sqft, between $330 and $500 a month.  That's a lot of wood.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Driven1 on July 15, 2008, 11:42:36 PM
i bought in SMP when these were for sale so I looked into as well.  I know that the bottom floor 1BR with no view of the river at all was going for like $285k.  ridiculously high.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Joe on July 16, 2008, 12:02:29 PM
Those are some crazy HOA fees. Does that include property tax? That would make it more reasonable.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: vicupstate on July 16, 2008, 01:05:11 PM
Quote from: Joe on July 16, 2008, 12:02:29 PM
Those are some crazy HOA fees. Does that include property tax? That would make it more reasonable.

Not on the unit itself, it wouldn't. 
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: heights unknown on July 16, 2008, 08:52:54 PM
Absolutely stunning photos.  Didn't seem to be much activity around though; are there residents actually living in it or moving in yet?  It reminds me of a cruise ship on land.  These photos stand out virtually from all others.......great work!!!!!!!  Beautiful building.  A toast to one of the new skyscrapers in the skyline and to the new tallest on the Southbank!  Now let's get the St. Johns built for another new tallest on the Southbank.

Heights Unknown
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: WhatsUpJacksonville on July 16, 2008, 09:39:01 PM
Beautiful photos.  I'm so jealous of whoever is moving in there.  What a huge plus for downtown to have another new residential building.  People should be flocking to it and retail shops should be fighting to get space.  And it's complete just in time for football season to begin.  Lucky residents.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Galois on July 16, 2008, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: heights unknown on July 16, 2008, 08:52:54 PM
Absolutely stunning photos.  Didn't seem to be much activity around though; are there residents actually living in it or moving in yet?  It reminds me of a cruise ship on land.  These photos stand out virtually from all others.......great work!!!!!!!  Beautiful building.  A toast to one of the new skyscrapers in the skyline and to the new tallest on the Southbank!  Now let's get the St. Johns built for another new tallest on the Southbank.

Heights Unknown

I work in the Peninsula. Yes there are people already in there. Mainly affluent people though. Yes there are things to do. It is located between the Chart House and Ruth Chris, across the street there are a bunch of eating places too like Sake House. This place is bound to be a success once it is all complete.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Southbanker on July 16, 2008, 10:11:17 PM
There are a lot of units for sale in the Peninsula and I think prices have come down.  Probably most of these units were bought by investors when the market was hot and now they are hating life. 

Same situation at SMP, but the amenities are not near as nice.  Of course HOA is much lower at SMP.

Lots of renters in the units as the owners pray for a turnaround in the market.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: jeh1980 on July 17, 2008, 12:43:45 AM
I work in the Peninsula. Yes there are people already in there. Mainly affluent people though. Yes there are things to do. It is located between the Chart House and Ruth Chris, across the street there are a bunch of eating places too like Sake House. This place is bound to be a success once it is all complete.
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I couldn't agree more. :)
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: pwhitford on July 17, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
I don't know how successful it is going to be - I understand there's a potential class action suit to recover some deposits on units at the Peninsula by some of the owners/investors  The court is due to rule on whether the class is to be certified shortly and I think the Complaint has already been filed and served.  The building's a beauty, no doubt, but I think there are a lot of unhappy investors who are beginning to balk at paying half a million dollars for a unit that is now worth significantly less (at least in their opinion).
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: RiversideGator on July 17, 2008, 03:28:27 PM
Well, the fact that you made a bad real estate bargain in an overheated market is really not a reason to invalidate the contract.  That isnt the way the system works.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: pwhitford on July 17, 2008, 03:56:26 PM
RG - I agree completely.  Real estate speculation is the essence of gambling, and in this case it seems several people gambled and lost (at least in the short term).  Consiering the ovbious irrational exuberance they were purchsaing with, I have little sympathy.  Also, I believe the lawsuit could very well be frivolous, depending on the terms of the purchase and sale contract (and that's a BIG if!).  The real problem is the potential impact on the building if a significant percentage of owners/investors end up pulling out or if they "win" and are allowed to rescind their contracts and/or get their money back.  This could lead to potentially burdensome assessments being levied against the remaining owners and adversely affecting the overall condition, upkeep, appearance and value of the building in general and the occupied units in particular.  I am just saying I am less confident of the building success under the current conditions.  It is a stunning sight, but looking closer I see some problems ... potentially big ones.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: assorted on July 17, 2008, 03:57:46 PM
River couldn't have said it better myself.  It is a real shame all these investors won't take responsibility for their actions.  Instead they are trying to figure out who they can sue or government bail out they can find.  
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Seraphs on July 18, 2008, 07:07:54 PM
Incredible photos, I must agree with everyone else.  Not to steal any thunder from the peninsula, but imagine the views from the St. John if or when it's built.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Coolyfett on July 22, 2008, 01:01:22 AM
Wow!! Man that would be a great place to invite a chick over!! She'd lose something fast!! I been in the Strade before really good views as well. Good Stuff.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: condoqueen30 on September 11, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
I hear ya PWhitford, but let me assure you, there are more end users in
that building than you'd imagine. 

As far as the lawsuits, they ARE frivilous
and completely WITHOUT grounds and it's shameful.  We are all hurting from
market conditions, but we are still adults, thus negative conditions do not
relinquish us from our choices and obligations.  Developers are not stupid.
The specific contract verbiage makes the buyer's obligation iron clad.

The building is amazing.....it's an unbelievable lifestyle.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: VirtualTours on October 05, 2008, 04:34:06 AM
I agree with condoqueen30, the building is absolutely amazing, just check out the Model Unit Virtual Tour at www.se360tour.com/nd0000
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: reednavy on October 06, 2008, 11:45:21 PM
The updated webpage has an awesome amount of new photos of the finished product. Nicely done American land Ventures.

http://www.thepeninsulacondos.com/Buyer-main/photoprogress.htm
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: thelakelander on October 06, 2008, 11:58:44 PM
The Peninsula was developed by American Land Ventures of Miami.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: reednavy on October 07, 2008, 07:40:53 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on October 06, 2008, 11:58:44 PM
The Peninsula was developed by American Land Ventures of Miami.

fixed, thanks for the clarification. Apparently I had Shipyards on the brain as well.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Seraphs on October 09, 2008, 05:27:43 PM
This is a beautiful building.  At night it goes almost invisable.  It needs to be uplight or have some type of lighting at the top. 
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: blizz01 on October 09, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
Won't the lighting care for itself as occupants move in to each unit?
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Seraphs on October 09, 2008, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on October 09, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
Won't the lighting care for itself as occupants move in to each unit?

To some degree.  But for a dynamic effect the building itself should be uplight.  For example, before the superbowl the regular street lights on the Hart bridge made it visable at night.  But after the special lighting was added the bridge became spectacular at night.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: jeh1980 on October 10, 2008, 05:45:37 AM
Quote from: Seraphs on October 09, 2008, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on October 09, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
Won't the lighting care for itself as occupants move in to each unit?

To some degree.  But for a dynamic effect the building itself should be uplight.  For example, before the superbowl the regular street lights on the Hart bridge made it visable at night.  But after the special lighting was added the bridge became spectacular at night.
Good thought!  8)
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 04, 2011, 12:20:11 PM
I hate to retrieve an old thread.

What is going on with the building?
Has it sold out all of the units?
Has the building been affected by the market recession since its initial launch in 2008?

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: buckethead on April 04, 2011, 06:14:25 PM
I stopped in and talked to the building manager, John Sasso for a time. (He worked with me many years ago) He said they were (IIRC) 60% occupied and values were holding fairly well.

You'll need 300K + to get a three BR. (I think they were about 370ish)

$700 roughly, in monthly maintenance fees for the 3 BR units.

Compare that to NYC prices. A bargain for an awesome location with some great restaurants within walking distance. Skyway station 150 yards from the lobby.

Awesome urban living.




Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: RiversideLoki on April 04, 2011, 06:46:04 PM
That's such a cool building. We did the wireless/business center/some of the security stuff for them. John Spassoff's a pretty cool dude. That clubhouse on the top floor is one of my favorite spots in the city.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 04, 2011, 07:00:19 PM
There were a lot of upgrades in the building that I've never seen in Jacksonville before.  We used a lot of Macassar Ebony,the striped wood at the fireplace and TV stand, Figured Anigre at the reception desk, Wenge at the 9th floor bar and the bookshelves in the library. 

I was looking at buying while we were working there, but I have to say that I was a little disappointed in the layouts of the units themselves.  They all felt a little cramped and closed in.  You had some decent views, but the windows, although floor to ceiling, were too narrow and spaced to far apart.  I was also kinda spoiled by going into the penthouses, with the walls of windows, wide open floor plans and 12' ceilings, but they were just a tad out of my price range.  :o
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: buckethead on April 04, 2011, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: RiversideLoki on April 04, 2011, 06:46:04 PM
That's such a cool building. We did the wireless/business center/some of the security stuff for them. John Spassoff's a pretty cool dude. That clubhouse on the top floor is one of my favorite spots in the city.

Oopsie! You're right!

Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Timkin on April 04, 2011, 11:06:03 PM
Its really beautiful !
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Noone on April 05, 2011, 12:25:12 AM
I saw that pool table.

Who thinks they have game? Beside me. I'll play you for a sausage dog at Robert's. The question is....Can you make it happen.

I met Granvil Tracy before they broke ground on this project and he told me that he wished they had saved and used the Old Fuller Warren Bridge. 2005-207

Makes me want to call him and say  we now have 2010-604.

Suzanne Jenkins made it happen. Who right now will make it happen before access to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River is legislatively restricted.

The Public Trust just totally crushed in this community.

The state of Florida is watching.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: duvaldude08 on April 05, 2011, 01:26:02 AM
Man If I could only afford to stay there. Its like NYC meets Jacksonville. That place is gourgeous.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Captain Zissou on April 05, 2011, 08:42:44 AM
I lived there for about 15 months.  You can rent for less than 1k per bedroom if you find the right people.  I've heard stories of people trying to buy units but the building refusing to budge on price because they want to keep out 'the wrong kind of people'.  Sad, but if the building is willing to go bankrupt for the sake of status, that's their decision.  

It may be 60% owned, but there's no way the building is 60% occupied.  I'd say 45% at best.  After 9 pm the building was a ghost town.  I usually had free reign of the top floor, the club room on the ninth floor, the spa, the library....etc after 9.

It's a great building, but they did little to fit it in to the neighborhood around them.  Living there was just like living on the southside.  Other than Sake House, I had to drive wherever I wanted to eat.  However, a view of the city from 350 ft through your bedroom window is pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: buckethead on April 05, 2011, 09:01:21 AM
Chart house? Mortons? Ruth's Chris? You also have the University Club (membership or an invite. Move it! Shake it!).

I lived in the Strand, and we often walked over the Main St bridge as well. A perfect walk for a cheap food court lunch or dining at the boobie store.

That Italian joint isn't bad either.

The Skyway could get you to the (admittedly diminishing) restaurants downtown. Chew was a fave.

An outing? YES! It's the cool thing about living there.

What happens at the old Harbor masters building these days?
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Captain Zissou on April 05, 2011, 09:05:49 AM
bucket,

You may have a bit more discretionary income than me.  I could afford to eat at one of the southbank restaurants (Ruth's Chris, Mortons, Charthouse) maybe once a month, unless it was someone else's tab.  I would walk to BG occasionally, but I usually work until 7, so that trek isn't super inviting at that time.  For the most part, it was Jimmy Johns, La Nap, or Sake House.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 05, 2011, 09:06:04 AM
If you can friggin BUILD Traders Joe's there, the whole area would EXPLODE into madness, sparkles, and rainbows. =D

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: tufsu1 on April 05, 2011, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 05, 2011, 09:06:04 AM
If you can friggin BUILD Traders Joe's there, the whole area would EXPLODE into madness, sparkles, and rainbows. =D

-Josh

get over the whole Trade Joe's thing....they have no stores in Florida...and the closest ones are in Atlanta!
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 05, 2011, 09:31:31 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 05, 2011, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 05, 2011, 09:06:04 AM
If you can friggin BUILD Traders Joe's there, the whole area would EXPLODE into madness, sparkles, and rainbows. =D

-Josh

get over the whole Trade Joe's thing....they have no stores in Florida...and the closest ones are in Atlanta!

Aww don't be a party pooper. Did you have a coffee this morning? I was just playing and it kinda shows my point that the area lack few urban elements on the South Riverbank area to drive the good reasons to live there.

Have a lovely day, Tufsu! ^__^

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: buckethead on April 05, 2011, 09:31:52 AM
Doooood!


Madness! Sparkles! Rainbows!


BRING IT ON!!!
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: iMarvin on April 05, 2011, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on April 05, 2011, 09:05:49 AM
bucket,

You may have a bit more discretionary income than me.  I could afford to eat at one of the southbank restaurants (Ruth's Chris, Mortons, Charthouse) maybe once a month, unless it was someone else's tab.  I would walk to BG occasionally, but I usually work until 7, so that trek isn't super inviting at that time.  For the most part, it was Jimmy Johns, La Nap, or Sake House.

My guess is that they think if you can afford the place, you can afford the restaurants around it.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Chaz1969 on April 06, 2011, 07:48:51 AM
I have rented a 2 bd/2 ba SW corner unit in the Peninsula since early 2009 and I love living there...that is, aside from having to navigate the treacherous 8 level parking garage.  It is approximately 1 mile from my parking space to the street outside.  I would say the number of empty spaces in the gararge suggests there is still a long way to go before the building's full.  Still, there are now 5 other tenants in my floor of 10 apartments.  When I moved in there were only 2 others occupied.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Garden guy on April 06, 2011, 08:07:13 AM
The last thing this city needs is another highrise apartment building...what a waist of space...we have empty houses and buildings all over southbank and downtown....a waist of land and a waist of money
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Captain Zissou on April 06, 2011, 08:42:40 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on April 06, 2011, 08:07:13 AM
The last thing this city needs is another highrise apartment building...what a waist of space...we have empty houses and buildings all over southbank and downtown....a waist of land and a waist of money

Are you calling the city fat??  What's wrong with our waist??  I'd say that was a wASTE of a post.

iMarvin, I'm not sure the building is concerned about me being able to afford the food around me, but that area is very high end from the food, to the shopping, to the condos.  Even if I could afford to eat at Ruth's Chris or Chart House every night, I still think the area needs more variety in food.  While it's not that difficult to drive to the Loop in SM or Obros in 5 points, that area should be more walkable.  With the potential density that exists there even with the already completed projects, there should be more places within walking distance.

Chaz, I hear you on the parking garage.  From the time I left my apartment front door, it would usually take 5-8 minutes to get to Riverplace Blvd.  I only had to park on the third floor as well.  I can only imagine parking on the 8th!! In early 2010 a lady almost hit me and caused me to bump a column and dent my fender.  $700 out the door right there.  That garage is dangerous!
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 08:50:48 AM
The major issue with this area is a lack of a complete urban system such as a supermarket, pharmacy, a variety of public interaction and activities to even call this a community. The people who claim the building to be a community are wrong. You can't have a community without those urban elements.

Therefore, the downtown is not downtown.... yet.

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 06, 2011, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 08:50:48 AM
The major issue with this area is a lack of a complete urban system such as a Trader Joes, Trader Joes, a variety of public interaction like meeting at Trader Joes and activities such as shopping at Trader Joes to even call this a community. The people who claim the building to be a community are wrong. You can't have a community without a Trader Joes.

Therefore, the downtown is not downtown.... yet.  Yet meaning until they get a Trader Joes!

-Josh

I replaced all of your vague nuances with what you really meant.  It's a public forum, don't let TUFSU keep your true feelings bottled inside.  ;D
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: KuroiKetsunoHana on April 06, 2011, 10:45:28 AM
fine, i'll bite.  you kids have been talking about it enough.  what the hell is trader joe's?
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 10:56:26 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 06, 2011, 09:07:11 AM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 08:50:48 AM
The major issue with this area is a lack of a complete urban system such as a Trader Joes, Trader Joes, a variety of public interaction like meeting at Trader Joes and activities such as shopping at Trader Joes to even call this a community. The people who claim the building to be a community are wrong. You can't have a community without a Trader Joes.

Therefore, the downtown is not downtown.... yet.  Yet meaning until they get a Trader Joes!

-Josh

I replaced all of your vague nuances with what you really meant.  It's a public forum, don't let TUFSU keep your true feelings bottled inside.  ;D

Why thank you sir! That just bring a smile to my face. :D I simply lol'd.

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: vicupstate on April 06, 2011, 10:59:35 AM
Trader Joe's is a much smaller, less pricey Whole Foods.  It is a cross between Aldi and Whole Foods. Aldi and Trader Joe's are the same company, I understand.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: danem on April 06, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
He definitely has a point.  :D Even if it can't be Trader Joe's, urban living does at least need a freaking Walgreens downstairs! Somewhere on this site, someone brought up how most of the driving in the suburban context are short errands that take place within 1-2 miles of home. In a suburban setting, think about what things exist within that distance, that's what needs to be walking distance of your (high-end or not) urban apartment complex.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 11:51:46 AM
Trader Joe's is OK. I am in San Francisco this week on business. My wife wanted to visit Trader Joe's so we did. It reminds me of Whole Foods, but a bit smaller. Prices are about the same.
To anyone who thinks driving in Jacksonville is bad, should come out here. Roads are confusing, people tend to not use their turn signals, and motorcyles are allowed to split the lanes, etc, etc
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 11:51:46 AM
Trader Joe's is OK. I am in San Francisco this week on business. My wife wanted to visit Trader Joe's so we did. It reminds me of Whole Foods, but a bit smaller. Prices are about the same.
To anyone who thinks driving in Jacksonville is bad, should come out here. Roads are confusing, people tend to not use their turn signals, and motorcyles are allowed to split the lanes, etc, etc

Haha! San Francisco is more of a walking / public transit city than a driving city.

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 12:02:38 PM
Actually, my hotel is San Jose, so unfortunately to get to San francisco, I have to take the 30 minute drive. I may try out the BART system while I am here. CalTrain is not doing so good. On the news they were talking about raising the rates and having to close numerous stations.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
Haha! San Francisco is more of a walking / public transit city than a driving city.

-Josh

I agree. Maybe I should have specified that I am actually in San Jose and was describing the traffic here and on the 880. BART comes close to here, but there are still tons of people using cars and gas is about 4.29 per gallon! Its just a  different kind of driving. Speed limits are painted on the road. It took me a while to realize that. Also, there are no simple turns. Every tunrn has like 3 or 4 turn lanes. The strangest thing I saw, was while driving on the highway, there are little stoplights on the entrance ramps that lets one car go through at a time onto the highway. I actually like it, as the on ramps are not backed up forever, and there is only one or two cars trying to merge onto the highway ata  time.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions Stephen. I love the weather out here. May we should all just relocate to San Francisco. I think we would have a better time with life.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 12:24:21 PM
If I lived in San Francisco, I would NEVER get tired of smelling and eating that sourdough breaed! MMMmhmmm!

-Josh
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: danem on April 06, 2011, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 06, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
Haha! San Francisco is more of a walking / public transit city than a driving city.

-Josh

I agree. Maybe I should have specified that I am actually in San Jose and was describing the traffic here and on the 880. BART comes close to here, but there are still tons of people using cars and gas is about 4.29 per gallon! Its just a  different kind of driving. Speed limits are painted on the road. It took me a while to realize that. Also, there are no simple turns. Every tunrn has like 3 or 4 turn lanes. The strangest thing I saw, was while driving on the highway, there are little stoplights on the entrance ramps that lets one car go through at a time onto the highway. I actually like it, as the on ramps are not backed up forever, and there is only one or two cars trying to merge onto the highway ata  time.

I drove in San Francisco ONCE. That was an adventure!  :D The rest of the time I walked or rode some transit thingy everywhere and watched people in cars honking at and tailgating each other, being glad that I wasn't them.

I love driving but I'd trade it in for walking more any day.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: ChriswUfGator on April 11, 2011, 09:19:10 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 06, 2011, 12:07:54 PM
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 06, 2011, 12:02:38 PM
Actually, my hotel is San Jose, so unfortunately to get to San francisco, I have to take the 30 minute drive. I may try out the BART system while I am here. CalTrain is not doing so good. On the news they were talking about raising the rates and having to close numerous stations.


Definitely try out BART, you will be amazed at how easy it is to get around.  MUCH easier than using a car.  Most of the BART stations have easy access to a colocated MUNI stop as well (its the san francisco only train---BART is the entire Bay Area)

Don't be afraid to take Caltrain up from San Jose, just close your eyes through the city of South San Francisco.  Its the Jacksonville version of SF.

Just don't sit in the back of the rearmost car after dark...you'll usually get more of a show than you paid for.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: fieldafm on April 12, 2011, 01:24:24 PM
I'll add to my unwavering love of the BART.  San Fran is second only to NYC as to the best public transportation system in the country.

I will also second the recommendation for Pancho Villa's Taqueria.

Now I am craving a good bahn mi, pho, carne asada tacos and some L&L Hawaiin BBQ. 

If you go to Pho Garden, you will see my picture on the wall as having proudly conquered the pho challenge:

(http://phogardensf.com/files/image/pgc19.jpg)

That's not me, I'm a Dodgers fan  ;D
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: timothyj67 on October 06, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
.hate to be a damper....But I come from a developed major city....And these are great condos..But in order for a 90% + sell rate they actually need to be affordable to alot of people not just a select few..Lets face it...Sure there is redevelopment in DT going on..But its still pretty damn vacant. No major retail or restaurants. No major foot traffic. No major events beside  ..football...Not everyone in Jville likes football..So..This is a start in the right direction..But DT jax has a LONG way to go!
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Jagsdrew on May 26, 2023, 09:44:07 AM
$40 million exterior renovation for the Peninsula https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2023/05/25/southbanks-peninsula-tower-to-begin-39m-in-exte.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2023/05/25/southbanks-peninsula-tower-to-begin-39m-in-exte.html)

A few images of the proposed updates can be found on their site (scroll down a little on the site)
https://www.thepeninsulaofjacksonville.com/ (https://www.thepeninsulaofjacksonville.com/)
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: thelakelander on May 26, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
Will the coffee bar in the lobby be open to the public?
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: lsteif on May 31, 2023, 09:24:13 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 26, 2023, 01:09:57 PM
Will the coffee bar in the lobby be open to the public?

Peninsula resident here! It's just a little dispenser machine that makes black coffee -- nothing to get excited about, lol.

The vacant space on the ground floor facing the Riverwalk is being used as the field office for the construction company doing the work so no hopes for that to be anything cool for another few years at least. 
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: vicupstate on June 01, 2023, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: Jagsdrew on May 26, 2023, 09:44:07 AM
$40 million exterior renovation for the Peninsula https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2023/05/25/southbanks-peninsula-tower-to-begin-39m-in-exte.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2023/05/25/southbanks-peninsula-tower-to-begin-39m-in-exte.html)

A few images of the proposed updates can be found on their site (scroll down a little on the site)
https://www.thepeninsulaofjacksonville.com/ (https://www.thepeninsulaofjacksonville.com/)

Other than some uplighting, I don't see any differences. The article is behind a paywall.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: marcuscnelson on June 01, 2023, 03:16:48 PM
Looks like they're replacing the red cladding on the parking garage with a grey cladding. Maybe also the rest of the building's cladding too.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: acme54321 on June 02, 2023, 06:04:07 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on June 01, 2023, 01:10:58 PM
Quote from: Jagsdrew on May 26, 2023, 09:44:07 AM
$40 million exterior renovation for the Peninsula https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2023/05/25/southbanks-peninsula-tower-to-begin-39m-in-exte.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2023/05/25/southbanks-peninsula-tower-to-begin-39m-in-exte.html)

A few images of the proposed updates can be found on their site (scroll down a little on the site)
https://www.thepeninsulaofjacksonville.com/ (https://www.thepeninsulaofjacksonville.com/)

Other than some uplighting, I don't see any differences. The article is behind a paywall.

The main work is putting the veneer back onto the parking deck.  The original red brick veneer was pulled off like 5 years ago because it was failing due to improper install iirc.  The condo had been in litigation with the builder for a long time and recently won that case.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: lsteif on June 02, 2023, 10:03:49 PM
They also have to go through and replace every window in every unit throughout the building due to construction defects. Residents have to vacate their unit for 3-4 weeks while their portion of the building is being repaired. We face the northeast corner and get terrible water intrusion through our kitchen window every time we get a storm -- through Ian my husband and I had to stay up all night mopping the water up with towels. We couldn't dry them in the dryer fast enough for how quickly the water comes through.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: marcuscnelson on June 05, 2023, 11:47:10 AM
That sounds awful! I hope they're at least covering the cost of that, especially for that long.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: Charles Hunter on June 05, 2023, 01:49:16 PM
Do they have enough vacant units to shuffle people around? Or, will they have to go to hotels - that I sincerely hope the building owners are covering.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: acme54321 on June 05, 2023, 02:36:58 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on June 05, 2023, 01:49:16 PM
Do they have enough vacant units to shuffle people around? Or, will they have to go to hotels - that I sincerely hope the building owners are covering.

It's a condo, the owners are the residents.  I dont know any real details, but from what I understand they won like a $50M lawsuit to cover these repairs, hopefully that cost was included.
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: vicupstate on June 05, 2023, 02:42:45 PM
^^ What is it with window install fails in Jacksonville. The Parks at The Cathedral had an issue with windows as well which went to court. 
Title: Re: Inside the Southbank's new Tallest: The Peninsula
Post by: jaxlongtimer on June 05, 2023, 11:05:53 PM
I know people who own condos in a high rise at the Beach.  They had exterior work done and couldn't use their units for something like 2 years.  All the windows were boarded over and they couldn't see anything. 

This work rarely goes according to plan. Whatever contractors tell you expect double the time or worse.  Especially with labor shortages, now accentuated by DeSantis' new immigration law.