Wow, Michelle Obama killed it. So, how many years until she runs for president...?
Someone on twitter said " Michelle is writing another great speech for the Trumps." Yeah, that's right.
I'm still shaking my head at the severe contrast between the republican nominee and the DNC ethos.
She's ending her speech in tears.
"I wake up every morning in a house built by slaves...and look at my daughters playing on White House lawn..."
Elizabeth Warren is on now.
The party seems pretty fractured. You can hear lots of Bernie supporters disrupting things.
The"I'm with her "is close to "I'm with stupid."
^seriously? That's not what I'm catching. The rally around Clinton is remarkable and they are doing a really really good job showing Trumps weasely-ness.
Yes, there are shouts of protest...but even the protesters stop to listen. And, not a single shout of protest during the Flotus speech.
Sanders is on now...and 15 minutes of applause later...there is still applause.
whoah...Sanders to delegates, "I look forward to your votes during the role call tomorrow night. "
I missed Michelle speak, but the reaction I'm seeing online is positive. Sorry I missed it.
The Sanders people were disruptive for the whole of Warrens speech, from what I was watching.
her speech was tremendous. She set the stage by saying in so many words, "I told you eight years ago Obama is awesome. I wasn't wrong. Now I'm telling you Clinton should be president. I won't be wrong about this either."
Sanders just endorsed Hil.
Bern is just trying to keep his folks under control right now. Wild.
^yup. They're showing a lot of younger women tearing up...okay, they showed three. Oh, they just a young man tearing up as well.
Sanders started his speech by saying this election is not about personalities it is about the issues. Now, he is going through each of these issues.
Bernie is the third person to mention a public option for healthcare. I don't remember hearing a lot about that during the primaries. Did I just miss it?
Student debt I remember.
Quote from: TheCat on July 25, 2016, 11:16:34 PM
Bernie is the third person to mention a public option for healthcare. I don't remember hearing a lot about that during the primaries. Did I just miss it?
It was one of his main points in his stump speech. He mentioned it almost every time he spoke.
The echo chamber is strong in this one. You guys must be watching another convention, because this is already a total shitshow than all of the RNC. The constant boos, thousands of protestors outside, the DNC leaks on everyone's mind, Bernie rolling over (and most his supporters rejecting it), etc. Pretty funny since everyone swore it was the Reps who were gonna be fractured.
You can only put so much lipstick on a pig before everyone realises what's going on & how messed up this whole thing is with all the collusion. This won't end well for the Dems IMO.
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Quote from: peestandingup on July 26, 2016, 01:05:49 AM
The echo chamber is strong in this one. You guys must be watching another convention, because this is already a total shitshow than all of the RNC. The constant boos, thousands of protestors outside, the DNC leaks on everyone's mind, Bernie rolling over (and most his supporters rejecting it), etc. Pretty funny since everyone swore it was the Reps who were gonna be fractured.
You can only put so much lipstick on a pig before everyone realises what's going on & how messed up this whole thing is with all the collusion. This won't end well for the Dems IMO.
lol. weird.
None of the DNC speakers have been certifiably crazy so far. Big difference from the RNC.
Granted, but for better or worse, at least the RNC felt like it was real (and the nominee got there fair & square). This whole thing feels scripted & everyone telling us there is no fire (when the house is burning down).
(http://i.imgur.com/Mukrf2V.gif)
First Lady's speech was great and I'm sure it will be replayed many many times over our lifetime. It does seem less crazy than the GOP one but that is a low low bar.
The media is underplaying how divided the showing from the Democratic base has been at the convention. The Bernie supporters are quite upset. Of course it's not on the level of the RNC, where a lot of the party leadership didn't even show up, but like fsquid says that's a very low bar.
I'm having a hard time understanding why folks are so upset about the DNC chair favoring Hillary. The chair having an opinion doesn't mean much - just look at the Republicans where most of the top brass were openly contemptuous of Trump and he won anyway. Bernie wasn't close to winning the primary even if more of the leadership had been stumping for him. I'm more concerned by the possibility of the Russians trying to meddle with our election. At least we know now that Putin doesn't want Clinton to win.
Nothing is falling apart for either side. Trump is right, he can shoot someone in the middle of the street and he will still have the repubs support. The skepticism will fade and repubs will vote for trump.
If anything, the dems should thank trump. There are few people in the world that can unify the dems the way Trump can.
He's made it clear who the repubs are. Other candidates simply wink at bigotry. Trump has the decency to make it clear. And, the people love it. Or, hate it. So, for that. Thank you, Donald Trump for lifting the veil of what half the nation thinks.
It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to know the whole thing is scripted. My sources are telling me the DNC even pre-releases some of the speeches. If you think the RNC conventions wasn't scripted, you should reconsider.
Both Trump and Clinton are among the luckiest candidates in the history of America. Either one of them would be trounced by virtually any other serious candidate. Because they're both historically unpopular, and the third parties aren't getting much traction, it's a dead heat.
^maybe but I'm seeing a lot more people asking themselves, "why do I dislike Hillary so mcuh?" without coming up with a really good answer.
I don't agree with that. Most people I talk to cite things like the email scandal, her role in Benghazi and its blowback, the 25 years of grand jury investigations and controversies going back to Whitewater. There are some who can't articulate a good reason why they don't like her, but the same is true of Trump and virtually any other candidate.
Quotethe 25 years of grand jury investigations and controversies going back to Whitewater.
Yes, which amounted to... nothing. The Right lost all it's credibility with me years ago as it comes to Hillary. She has made mistakes, as we all do, and they are out there for all to see as she has been in the public eye non-stop for 25 years. The non-stop efforts to get her at all costs, have made her paronoid and clouded her judgement at times, but she isn't the she-devil the right makes her out to be.
And if the 5 million emails deleted off of the RNC servers in the W administration had been leaked, there would be plenty of fodder there too.
Quote from: TheCat on July 25, 2016, 10:54:27 PM
^seriously? That's not what I'm catching. The rally around Clinton is remarkable and they are doing a really really good job showing Trumps weasely-ness.
This isn't what I would call "rallying" around clinton:
https://www.youtube.com/v/03YJpek1YHw&feature=youtu.be
How come no one is talking about the most glaring lack of unity on display last night?
Paul Simon sings "Bridge Over Troubled Water" solo? WTF? Even if Simon wrote it, that's Garfunkel's song. Talk about papering over a divided folk duo, I mean, party.
^ telling =)
On stage now, the mothers of sons that were shot and killed for being black without cause.
trayvon martin's mother is speaking now. Jordan Davis' mother just finished speaking.
I really wish Democrats would propose an end to the drug war. It's the cause of most of the abuse the police are doing, and it's really a war on minorities.
QuoteThe echo chamber is strong in this one. You guys must be watching another convention, because this is already a total shitshow than all of the RNC. The constant boos, thousands of protestors outside, the DNC leaks on everyone's mind, Bernie rolling over (and most his supporters rejecting it), etc. Pretty funny since everyone swore it was the Reps who were gonna be fractured.
You can only put so much lipstick on a pig before everyone realises what's going on & how messed up this whole thing is with all the collusion. This won't end well for the Dems IMO.
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QuoteI really wish Democrats would propose an end to the drug war. It's the cause of most of the abuse the police are doing, and it's really a war on minorities.
Why would they? Allowing states to supersede the Federal laws in drugs, but enforcing Obamacare at the state level? So healthcare is free after you destroy your body with drugs.
Quote from: Tacachale on July 26, 2016, 10:02:39 AM
The media is underplaying how divided the showing from the Democratic base has been at the convention. The Bernie supporters are quite upset.
Yeah, shill blogs & MSM is in full manipulation damage control mode. Look at all that unity! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGRo1mH2_8w
Sanders will get his revolution, but to the dismay of Democrats (because they wont be voting that way).
Quote from: mtraininjax on July 27, 2016, 04:33:38 AM
QuoteI really wish Democrats would propose an end to the drug war. It's the cause of most of the abuse the police are doing, and it's really a war on minorities.
Why would they? Allowing states to supersede the Federal laws in drugs, but enforcing Obamacare at the state level? So healthcare is free after you destroy your body with drugs.
Well you can read the Democratic platform here: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/papers_pdf/117717.pdf (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/papers_pdf/117717.pdf)
QuoteThe "war on drugs" has led to the imprisonment of millions of Americans, disproportionately people of color, without reducing drug use. Whenever possible, Democrats will prioritize prevention and treatment over incarceration when tackling addiction and substance use disorder. We will build on effective models of drug courts, veterans' courts, and other diversionary
programs that seek to give nonviolent offenders opportunities for rehabilitation as opposed to incarceration.
Because of conflicting federal and state laws concerning marijuana, we encourage the federal government to remove marijuana from the list of "Schedule 1" federal controlled substances and to appropriately regulate it, providing a reasoned pathway for future legalization. We believe that the states should be laboratories of democracy on the issue of marijuana, and those states that want to decriminalize it or provide access to medical marijuana should be able to do so. We support policies that will allow more research on marijuana, as well as reforming our laws to allow legal marijuana businesses to exist without uncertainty. And we recognize our current marijuana laws have had an unacceptable disparate impact in terms of arrest rates for African
Americans that far outstrip arrest rates for whites, despite similar usage rates.
But Federal Law can only be changed through legislation in Congress. Don't hear much talk at all about it from Republicans.
Personally, I support full decriminalization of all drugs. But I recognize that that kind of progressive ideal will take time to get through.
QuoteCongress.
That is the problem, not the presidency, neither party can do much in anything. Total gridlock and now with Bernie's group wanting to split and create their own group, a distinct possibility, we could have the Reps, Tea Party, Dems and the new "Feel the Bern" group. Oh and then the Rand Pauls and Independents.
Makes your head spin.
Quote from: mtraininjax on July 27, 2016, 11:14:47 AM
QuoteCongress.
That is the problem, not the presidency, neither party can do much in anything. Total gridlock and now with Bernie's group wanting to split and create their own group, a distinct possibility, we could have the Reps, Tea Party, Dems and the new "Feel the Bern" group. Oh and then the Rand Pauls and Independents.
Makes your head spin.
I bet more would be accomplished if there were multiple parties in Congress (in any sizeable numbers). As it stands, the two just oppose each other.
QuoteEvery night of the Republican Convention made me afraid for our country. Every night of the Democratic Convention, Ive fallen in love with America all over again.
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Quotemostly from living in a fantasy world.
You've come to the right place.