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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Urban Neighborhoods => Murray Hill => Topic started by: mresident on July 20, 2016, 09:57:48 AM

Title: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: mresident on July 20, 2016, 09:57:48 AM
Over the last month I have noticed workers moving equipment / material in late night and very recently they have started re-roofing. I see no work permits for this building on the city's site. I get the impression they are trying to get everything done without anybody noticing.

Anybody have any additional info on this?
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: johnnyliar on July 20, 2016, 10:22:15 AM
I haven't seen anyone moving anything. Are you sure it's not just work for Magnolia's Pub across the street?
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: mresident on July 20, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
Most recently it was a preassembled bar through the front door of Fat Cats. Unless Magnolia's Pub is the same owner, I doubt it was for them.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: Jtetlak on July 20, 2016, 03:18:13 PM
I'll ask around at the MHPA meeting Thursday night (7PM at Maple Street).
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: Live_Oak on July 27, 2016, 11:51:10 AM
Quote from: Jtetlak on July 20, 2016, 03:18:13 PM
I'll ask around at the MHPA meeting Thursday night (7PM at Maple Street).

Did you find anything out about this?
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: Jtetlak on July 27, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
No one had seen or heard anything about it.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: banjo on April 22, 2017, 11:28:31 AM
Reviving an old post here but any new news on Fat Kat's? Looks like someone is working on it very slowly. I've peeked inside through the delapidated doors and there are at least two massive holes in the roof and the place looks gutted.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: benfranklinbof on April 22, 2017, 12:08:45 PM
I hope something happens to that building soon. It's in a nice spot, hopefully it doesn't get demolished.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: Live_Oak on April 24, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
The COJ Permits page says that a permit was issued on 3/30/17 to do: "Interior alteration, clean up and remove non-load bearing walls."
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: banjo on July 16, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
Peeking in the doors it is definitely gutted now. There are some pretty big holes in the roof too.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: jaxlore on July 17, 2017, 02:48:48 PM
roof top bar?
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: RiversideRambler on October 22, 2017, 12:49:15 PM
I recently heard a brewery and grocery store are planned for this space. I don't know any other details but I was wondering if anyone else heard about this.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: SoudNoises on December 08, 2017, 09:42:25 AM
Looks like there's a brewery that'll be opening in the old Fat Cats space. Fishweir Brewing. More info:

https://www.moderncities.com/article/2017-dec-fishweir-brewing-company-coming-to-murray-hill/page/
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: Tacachale on December 08, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: SoudNoises on December 08, 2017, 09:42:25 AM
Looks like there's a brewery that'll be opening in the old Fat Cats space. Fishweir Brewing. More info:

https://www.moderncities.com/article/2017-dec-fishweir-brewing-company-coming-to-murray-hill/page/1

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/487ba55465e8cf5ff78ea5bf8cf06e4a/tenor.gif?itemid=5448774)
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: ProjectMaximus on December 08, 2017, 10:04:19 AM
Excellent!!

btw that link took me to the second page which doesn't discuss the brewery. Here's the intro page:

https://www.moderncities.com/article/2017-dec-fishweir-brewing-company-coming-to-murray-hill/page/
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Wahoo!   Another brewery!

With regards to the street redesign... why does the center median need to be unusable for traffic?  Why not a center turn lane?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Neighborhoods/Edgewood-Ave/i-sxD99Gw/0/X3/ROAD%20DIET%20DIAGRAM_RESURFACING-X3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: jaxnyc79 on December 08, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Why not the bike lane between the parked cars and the sidewalk for more protection?
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2017, 10:28:52 AM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on December 08, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Why not the bike lane between the parked cars and the sidewalk for more protection?
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on December 08, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Why not the bike lane between the parked cars and the sidewalk for more protection?

Hmmm... bike lane between sidewalk and parked cars... to a non urban planner it seems a better arrangement
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: thelakelander on December 08, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2017, 10:04:51 AM
Wahoo!   Another brewery!

With regards to the street redesign... why does the center median need to be unusable for traffic?  Why not a center turn lane?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Neighborhoods/Edgewood-Ave/i-sxD99Gw/0/X3/ROAD%20DIET%20DIAGRAM_RESURFACING-X3.jpg)
Suicide (Center Turn) lanes aren't generally a great application in areas with heavy pedestrian traffic. Given the context, left turn lanes shouldn't be continuous. They should exist only where absolutely necessary. Doing such allows for additional mid-block crossings, landscaping and other amenities that reduce the total amount of vehicle and pedestrian conflict points.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: thelakelander on December 08, 2017, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2017, 10:28:52 AM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on December 08, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Why not the bike lane between the parked cars and the sidewalk for more protection?
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on December 08, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Why not the bike lane between the parked cars and the sidewalk for more protection?

Hmmm... bike lane between sidewalk and parked cars... to a non urban planner it seems a better arrangement
At the time those renderings were created, they were only intended to serve as two examples of right-sizing a neighborhood street. The affordable example was illustrated as a simple street resurfacing and lane stripping modification with raised curb median islands. With it, the idea was to keep the existing drainage infrastructure in tact. With that said, in regards to the bike lanes and diagonal parking, back-in diagonal parking would eliminate the concern expressed. There's great examples all around the country. I'm kind of surprised there aren't any already in Jax.

The more expensive example moves the curb and gutter. Modifying the drainage infrastructure would add millions to a lane elimination project, but it allows you to do whatever type of cross section you want. The one illustrated with parallel parking and wider sidewalks is one example. The suggestion mentioned in this thread could be another. Ultimately, COJ and the residents of Murray Hill should work together to create something that works for the neighborhood. Realistically, the typical cross section could change in various segments to align with the type of environment desired.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: SoudNoises on December 08, 2017, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on December 08, 2017, 10:04:19 AM
Excellent!!

btw that link took me to the second page which doesn't discuss the brewery. Here's the intro page:

https://www.moderncities.com/article/2017-dec-fishweir-brewing-company-coming-to-murray-hill/page/

Whoops, thanks! Fixed.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: ProjectMaximus on December 20, 2017, 10:35:51 AM
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/couple-plans-to-open-areas-first-sour-brewery
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: SoudNoises on December 20, 2017, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on December 20, 2017, 10:35:51 AM
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/couple-plans-to-open-areas-first-sour-brewery

Glad it's an original concept. Was told by a local business owner last night that Fishweir is eyeing a late 2018/early 2019 opening. A LOT of work needs to be done on that space.
Title: Re: Fat Cats Reopening?
Post by: JeffreyS on December 20, 2017, 03:33:56 PM
I hope they are a big success. So good to have a project in that space it has to be expensive to renovate.