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Title: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on June 29, 2016, 08:45:02 AM
Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Engine-15-Myrtle-District/i-sMg8qLc/0/L/E151-L.jpg)

Mike Field of Modern Cities and Transform Jax highlights Engine 15 Brewing Company's plans to bring a unique urban beer garden to Myrtle Avenue and ponders if the area is poised to become a Southeastern version of Pittsburgh’s Strip District or Detroit’s Eastern Market.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2016-jun-engine-15-brewing-approved-to-open-urban-beer-garden
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Tacachale on June 29, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
sweeeeet
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: thelakelander on June 29, 2016, 11:21:15 AM
(http://photos.moderncities.com/Other/Engine-15-Myrtle-District/i-GgpxdTP/0/L/Engine%2015%20before%20and%20after-L.jpg)

The transformation of the former rail platform area is pretty nice. One can only imagine how interesting this area would look if more warehouses were filled with new uses.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: benfranklinbof on June 29, 2016, 12:07:26 PM
It would be awesome if that area was like the "River Arts District" in Asheville.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Intuition Ale Works on June 29, 2016, 01:09:18 PM
and only 4 city council members voted against it...
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: thelakelander on June 29, 2016, 01:09:38 PM
Who were the 4?
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: fieldafm on June 29, 2016, 01:26:13 PM
Reggie Brown
Katrina Brown
Al Ferraro
Reggie Gaffney

*It should be noted that Engine 15 is a 6-year-old, home-grown manufacturing business creating jobs in an economically depressed area of town (requiring no public assistance) which creates a product that is shipped all over the State of Florida (and soon across the Southeast due to this new facility).
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: thelakelander on June 29, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
Did any of them provide a reason for being against this?
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Captain Zissou on June 29, 2016, 02:41:30 PM
Why would they be against it?  This part of town is run down and in need of new life.  Why not add a manufacturing facility with public events come in and revitalize a couple blocks? And without city money?  That's a win, win, win.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: thelakelander on June 29, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
I hope it's not a concern about gentrification.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Tacachale on June 29, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
I'm going to go with Hanlon's razor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor) and figure that lack of awareness and education on this issue is a factor. This kind of zoning conversion is something that's relatively new for Jacksonville, especially in that particular area. If that's the case, it's an easy fix. Not that there's really anything to fix, as there was a decisive majority in favor of the move.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on June 29, 2016, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 29, 2016, 02:58:14 PM
I'm going to go with Hanlon's razor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor) and figure that lack of awareness and education on this issue is a factor. This kind of zoning conversion is something that's relatively new for Jacksonville, especially in that particular area. If that's the case, it's an easy fix. Not that there's really anything to fix, as there was a decisive majority in favor of the move.

I would agree with this.  And add that since 'educational trips' are such a popular thing for our city leaders (and the obvious fact that they're oblivious to what has/is going on around after IAW & Bold City opened up right here in their own backyards), they need to take a day-trip down to Sweetwater Brewery in Atlanta and witness first hand the potential a local brewery has in revitalizing a sketchy area of town.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Noone on June 29, 2016, 05:12:44 PM
This is Positive!
Visit Jacksonville!
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: mtraininjax on June 30, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
Quotethey need to take a day-trip down to Sweetwater Brewery

Baptists on the CC do not take trips to breweries....
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: fieldafm on June 30, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on June 29, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
Did any of them provide a reason for being against this?

Political pandering. Probably not the most appropriate forum to drive home 'messages'... you know, when someone's livelihood and seven figure investment in an economically depressed area is on the line.

It should be noted however that Councilman Garrett Dennis showed great leadership and support on the PUD application. He seems to be the exact kind of leader in City Council that this area of town needs.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: Tacachale on June 30, 2016, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on June 30, 2016, 12:38:11 PM

It should be noted however that Councilman Garrett Dennis showed great leadership and support on the PUD application. He seems to be the exact kind of leader in City Council that this area of town needs.

That's good to hear. It's his district, after all.
Title: Re: Engine 15 Brewing Approved To Open Urban Beer Garden
Post by: fieldafm on June 30, 2016, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 30, 2016, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on June 30, 2016, 12:38:11 PM

It should be noted however that Councilman Garrett Dennis showed great leadership and support on the PUD application. He seems to be the exact kind of leader in City Council that this area of town needs.

That's good to hear. It's his district, after all.

When you have Council members from nearby districts that have shown a complete lack of leadership when their constituents need it the most... its certainly apropos to at least give a head nod to someone that is actually accomplishing the job they were elected to do. It's ashame that is the state of affairs today.