Who Will The Jaguars Draft?
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The NFL Draft is almost here. Finally. For rabid NFL fans, it is time to rejoice. It feels like Christmas with every GM playing the part of Santa delivering a shiny new toy that fills each of us with hope, excitement and cheer. But how will it affect Jville and the Jaguars?
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Myles Jack
Laremy Tunsil
If they draft Tunsil I'll buy you Chopstick Charley's.
That's not happening.
If the Jaguars traded out of this pick who would be worth trading down for? If the Jags traded down to 12 or 15 and were able to pick up another 2nd rounder and still get a DE like Shaq Lawson or an or ILB like Darron Lee - that could be best case scenario. Then, they could pick up best lineman available and best corner available to add much needed depth at both positions.
Just to stick to the Clemson theme (biased? yeah, maybe a little) I would like to see them pick up M. Alexander if he's available in Rnd 2.
Clemson is known for producing WRs and RBs, but the DBs have to go against them in practice, and this kid carries himself with the swagger of a shutdown corner. I don't know his stats (too lazy to look it up), but even though his Int total is low, I don't think anyone has scored against him, and that's because he doesn't get the ball thrown in his direction all that often. I don't know if it's him, or the falloff of talent on the other side of the field.
He was holding his own in the Championship game until he left injured.
As far as the first round, I don't have anyone I love. Would I like to see Jack or Bosa? Sure. Would I be disappointed in Tunsel? Only if he turns out like Joekel or Fisher (picked ahead of Joekel by the Chiefs). I like the idea of trading back to the middle of the first and picking up some more picks, but that's because I like the odds better.
FWIW, I don't really care as long as they get the job done.
If we stay at 5, I hope Ramsey or Jack falls to us and if Ramsey is available, I hope they aren't tempted by any trade back scenarios. I don't think we've reached the point to have the luxury of passing on a dominant game changer. I'm looking forward to driving up to go to the Draft Day party at the stadium.
Meanwhile I'll await the typical MetroJax Shad Khan bashing comment to somehow come into the conversation.
Ramsey if he is there.
If not, Bosa.
Too many questions about Jack's knee.
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 27, 2016, 01:21:58 AM
Just to stick to the Clemson theme (biased? yeah, maybe a little) I would like to see them pick up M. Alexander if he's available in Rnd 2.
Clemson is known for producing WRs and RBs, but the DBs have to go against them in practice, and this kid carries himself with the swagger of a shutdown corner. I don't know his stats (too lazy to look it up), but even though his Int total is low, I don't think anyone has scored against him, and that's because he doesn't get the ball thrown in his direction all that often. I don't know if it's him, or the falloff of talent on the other side of the field.
He was holding his own in the Championship game until he left injured.
As far as the first round, I don't have anyone I love. Would I like to see Jack or Bosa? Sure. Would I be disappointed in Tunsel? Only if he turns out like Joekel or Fisher (picked ahead of Joekel by the Chiefs). I like the idea of trading back to the middle of the first and picking up some more picks, but that's because I like the odds better.
FWIW, I don't really care as long as they get the job done.
I really don't understand the massive drop of Mackenzie Alexander. He more than held his own in the championship game. In my opinion, he will be a steal anywhere he is drafted. Even though he doesn't match the prototype corner that Gus' scheme demands, at some point you need to have a cover guy who can shut down a #1 WR.
I am not a Clemson fan per say, but I do believe that Shaq Lawson is going to make the team that drafts him very happy. He came up big in the championship game and as Big Cat Country and others have pointed out - he is the best pure edge rusher coming out. He may not be the best on every down, but he will collect sacks in droves and come up with big plays when you need them.
Quote from: WarrenSkeels on April 27, 2016, 11:05:24 AM
... but I do believe that Shaq Lawson is going to make the team that drafts him very happy. He came up big in the championship game and as Big Cat Country and others have pointed out - he is the best pure edge rusher coming out. He may not be the best on every down, but he will collect sacks in droves and come up with big plays when you need them.
I'm still suffering from some Andre Branch induced PTSD.
https://www.youtube.com/v/-x3RD1LwVLo
I refuse to believe they'll take anyone besides a pass rusher. If Ramsey is there they might take him. But other than that, they'll take Bosa (Or maybe a wildcard Lawson). The need is just too great at pass rusher.
And despite Caldwell's "10-12 year player" assertion, they HAVE to win this year. And the Jack knee, even if the Jags think it is good in the long run, is too much a risk for winning this year.
BridgeTroll, great clip! I love Key & Peele.
I'm good with Myles Jack
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/myles-jack?id=2555329
or Leonard Floyd.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/leonard-floyd?id=2555285
Second round, if he's available, take Jonathan Bullard.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jonathan-bullard?id=2555335
Almost certainly Jack is out... he may free fall to the second round based on his own comments yesterday... That said... Jags pick Ramsey or Bosa. I want the Packers to take Bullard at 27.
In 2012 the Jags pick at 5 was.... Justin Blackmon
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/28/justin-blackmon-pleads-guilty-to-dui/
QuoteJustin Blackmon pleads guilty to DUI
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 28, 2016, 11:44 AM EDT
On the day of the NFL draft, there's more bad news for one of the biggest draft busts in recent memory.
Justin Blackmon, the No. 5 overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft, was arrested for DUI in December. According to TMZ, Blackmon pleaded guilty on Wednesday. TMZ reports that Blackmon is facing prison time when he's sentenced in June.
As a rookie receiver for the Jaguars, Blackmon showed a lot of promise, catching 64 passes for 865 yards. But he played just four games in 2013 and hasn't played since after he was suspended indefinitely for repeated violations of the league's substance-abuse policy. At this point it seems extremely unlikely that he'll ever play in the NFL again.
Blackmon serves as a cautionary tale to all 32 teams today: No matter how great a player's talent, off-field issues can wreck his career. Blackmon will surely be discussed in many draft rooms today.
QuoteRamsey if he is there.
If not, Bosa.
Too many questions about Jack's knee.
Winner, round 1
After seeing what came out about Tunsil (reports he took money at Ole Miss and then smoking Bongs), he may be the next Blackmon, as he slid hard for off field issues.
There are too many good players these days, in so many rounds, its not realistic to expect the blockbuster deals on a regular basis. The Eagles/Browns trade was bad for both teams, all these drafted kids are not yet proven. I will give Caldwell props, he trades players who have played downs in the NFL and who have real value for picks in rounds.
A college athlete taking money? Shocking!
All athletes (college or pro) should be allowed to smoke weed. It isn't any worse than the institution-approved painkillers team doctors hand out and players get addicted to.
http://www.walterfootball.com/offseason2016jax.php
Quote5. Jalen Ramsey, CB/S, Florida State A+ Grade
Stupid teams do stupid things. The Jaguars used to be a stupid team, but they've made great strides recently, and now look like they're on the cusp of competing for the playoffs. They've taken another step toward that with this pick. Jalen Ramsey is one of the top two players in the draft. Jacksonville shouldn't have been able to obtain him with the fifth-overall selection, but it did. Congrats, Jaguars! You're one of the winners of the draft.
This is a great pick, worthy of an A+. Ramsey is very talented, and he can play both cornerback and safety. Jacksonville's secondary was a complete mess, but that's no longer the case with Ramsey on the roster.
Read more at http://www.walterfootball.com/offseason2016jax.php#v1IeWje0zDYb67Dd.99
Because I thought it an impossibility, didn't even factor in Ramsey. I'm incredibly happy today and I don't think we're on the cusp of the playoffs, we're competing for the Division title -- as long as Fowler is (and remains) healthy.
Had he played last year, he adds 3 or 4 more wins because his was *the* missing position of need.
Overnight, we've become Florida's team. Players from all three major programs and a native Floridian at quarterback.
Quote from: funwithteeth on April 29, 2016, 06:54:15 AM
A college athlete taking money? Shocking!
All athletes (college or pro) should be allowed to smoke weed. It isn't any worse than the institution-approved painkillers team doctors hand out and players get addicted to.
I'm happy with Tunsil sliding down to Miami.
Quote from: funwithteeth on April 29, 2016, 06:54:15 AM
A college athlete taking money? Shocking!
All athletes (college or pro) should be allowed to smoke weed. It isn't any worse than the institution-approved painkillers team doctors hand out and players get addicted to.
+1,0000000
Quote from: funwithteeth on April 29, 2016, 06:54:15 AM
A college athlete taking money? Shocking!
All athletes (college or pro) should be allowed to smoke weed. It isn't any worse than the institution-approved painkillers team doctors hand out and players get addicted to.
Pain killers for college athletes = bad
Weed for college athletes = bad
Therefore it should be OK.
Non Sequitur
Comments like yours are what inspired comments like mine. Handing out highly addictive painkillers to athletes so they can go back out on their field and earn their teams/schools millions of dollars is encouraged, but there's still plenty of people with retrograde views re: marijuana. A video of Tunsil doing dope is about the most unremarkable criminal (and not even that in several states!) act possible. Like maybe a couple of steps up from jaywalking.
Maybe if he had been accused of rape and Ole Miss and the local police force did everything in their power to make sure it wasn't properly investigated his draft stock wouldn't have fallen and he'd be sitting pretty like a certain someone from last year's draft who was also chosen by a Florida-based franchise ;)
Weed = bad? dude c'mon. Tell that to the 95% of players who partake in this so called "bad" drug in the off season.
The real issue here is someone hacked into his accounts and posted a video (from years ago) without his permission, costing him millions of dollars. I applaud the kid for keeping his composure during that whole fiasco.
I hope soon enough the NFL will get their head out of their ass and take weed off the banned substance list. It's 2016 people, and LEGAL in two states. But no, that'd rather have these players get hooked on prescription pills. Something that's 10x worse than pot. Unbelievable.
Dave Caldwell is killin it with these picks so far; What many said is the best player in the draft Jalen Ramsey, and undoubtedly the best player in the 2nd round Myles Jack! I'm lovin these picks!!! :)
The experts are saying that the Jags got the two best defensive players in the draft.... WOW
A guy at NFL said we will make the playoffs with the upgrades we have made on defense. As long as the offensive improves I have to agree...
LOL Tampa Bay picked the FSU kicker in the 2nd round.
Dante Fowler is worth 3 or 4 more wins?
I think we know who's smokin' weed.
Quote from: funwithteeth on April 29, 2016, 12:53:33 PM
Comments like yours are what inspired comments like mine. Handing out highly addictive painkillers to athletes so they can go back out on their field and earn their teams/schools millions of dollars is encouraged, but there's still plenty of people with retrograde views re: marijuana. A video of Tunsil doing dope is about the most unremarkable criminal (and not even that in several states!) act possible. Like maybe a couple of steps up from jaywalking.
Maybe if he had been accused of rape and Ole Miss and the local police force did everything in their power to make sure it wasn't properly investigated his draft stock wouldn't have fallen and he'd be sitting pretty like a certain someone from last year's draft who was also chosen by a Florida-based franchise ;)
Not to detract from the topic, but I have seen too many people brought down to the basement through both painkillers and pot. It doesnt happen to everyone, and people are entitled to feel as they wish, I have just worked with too many people in shelters and rehabs where PK's and pot were mere gateways.
If its good for you great, but for many its most definitely "retrograde".
Dante Fowler is sick. He has all the tools. Hopefully he, Ramsey, and Jack pan out. Looks like an amazing core of young talent on defense.
Quote from: spuwho on April 29, 2016, 11:14:55 PM
Not to detract from the topic, but I have seen too many people brought down to the basement through both painkillers and pot. It doesnt happen to everyone, and people are entitled to feel as they wish, I have just worked with too many people in shelters and rehabs where PK's and pot were mere gateways.
If its good for you great, but for many its most definitely "retrograde".
Trying not to de-rail, but any reason why you left off alcohol? All those ppl you worked with never touch the stuff?
Or do you not consider it as dangerous?
If you don't, just ask Mr. Blackmon.
Quote from: Gators312 on April 30, 2016, 11:44:03 AM
Quote from: spuwho on April 29, 2016, 11:14:55 PM
Not to detract from the topic, but I have seen too many people brought down to the basement through both painkillers and pot. It doesnt happen to everyone, and people are entitled to feel as they wish, I have just worked with too many people in shelters and rehabs where PK's and pot were mere gateways.
If its good for you great, but for many its most definitely "retrograde".
Trying not to de-rail, but any reason why you left off alcohol? All those ppl you worked with never touch the stuff?
Or do you not consider it as dangerous?
If you don't, just ask Mr. Blackmon.
Because the original post only referred to the 2.
The rest can be left for another post.
Quote from: MusicMan on April 29, 2016, 09:39:26 PM
Dante Fowler is worth 3 or 4 more wins?
I think we know who's smokin' weed.
You got sumpin' against Gainesville Green? I keed, I keed. He was worth that, IMHO, because his was the greatest position of need on a team that didn't have an awful defense -- it was simply a D that couldn't pressure the opposing team QB. So, we lost a fair share of close games (Carolina, for instance) because our D played well, forced numerous third downs, but consistently gave the other QB enough time to scan the field and find a (for instance) tight end breaking free after a sack should have been had. Cam converted third down after third down after third down.
It's all irrelevant now. Phenomenal draft for the Jags and the best adult/sports Christmas gift of my life. We not only have a chance to be an elite offense, we clearly have a chance now to be an elite defense, too. Next season (barring injury) we will have without question 3 of the ten best defensive players in our starting 11 from the last two drafts. That NEVER happens. They will be on the field with a superior interior rush guy in Malik Jackson, superior CB in Prince Amukamara, and a superior Safety in Tashaun Gipson. That's six players out of the 11 on defense who didn't play a down for us last year.
Incredible. Absolutely incredible.
http://www.businessinsider.com/jacksonville-jaguars-nailed-nfl-draft-2016-5
Thanks for that link, Ken. Love that positivity. Listening to 1010XL -- they don't even think Amukamara will start. That's a testimony to the newfound depth on this football team.
On paper possibly the best draft in decades, needs to translate to the field now. Excited for the season.