QuoteWho'd have thunk it? (Other than Clay Bennett, that is.) The Sonics are leaving Seattle, or so it seems, and hordes of hoops fans in the Pacific Northwest are in mourning.
Can you feel their pain? You should make the effort, because you could lose your favorite home team, too. And if you do, you'll want Sonics fans' support just as much they want yours right now.
Franchise relocation doesn't happen every day in major professional sports. In most cases, you can always count on your home team to be there for you when you need it. Maybe your favorite club is locked into a long-term lease, has a thriving fan base, just signed a sweet stadium deal in the heart of downtown and has a civic-minded owner. Good for you. It's hard to find greener pastures than that. But if the Seattle situation teaches us anything, it's that nothing lasts forever.
So we took a look around the sports landscape and compiled a list of 10 less-than-stable franchises whose owners just might be watching the developments in Seattle and Oklahoma City with some special interest. Maybe your favorite owner has Bennett's cell phone number. Maybe your favorite owner is itching to make the call: Hey, Clay. How'd you do it? Think it'd work for me?
Nothin' scientific about this list. We don't have any more inside info than you do. But to us, these look like the likeliest candidates to be next, even if you'll never hear Bud Selig or Roger Goodell or David Stern or Gary Bettman admit to the possibility on the record. (That just wouldn't be the politically correct thing to do.)
1. Nashville Predators, NHL
It drives the local ownership group crazy whenever anyone suggests the Predators are a prime target to relocate, but they are. Poor fan support, poor corporate support and a major investor (William "Boots" Del Biaggio III) who may go to jail for financial shenanigans all add up to a tenuous future in Nashville, no matter how angry it makes the locals when they hear it.
2. New Orleans Hornets, NBA
NBA basketball in New Orleans was a tough sell even before Hurricane Katrina. Nearly three years removed from the disaster, the long-term viability of the NBA in the Big Easy remains murky. In January, the Hornets negotiated the right to opt out of their New Orleans Arena lease if the average attendance were to fall short of 14,735 from Dec. 1, 2007 to the end of the 2008-09 season. Some saw this new arrangement as the precursor to a move to another city. Indeed, the Hornets averaged only 14,181 in ticket sales during the 2007-08 season, fifth-worst in the league. But New Orleans did see a surge in attendance thanks to its hosting of the 2008 All-Star Game and the team's strong playoff push. And the Hornets recently announced they've sold more than 5,000 new season tickets for next season. The current prevailing view is that the Hornets and the NBA hope to keep the team in New Orleans.
3. Buffalo Bills, NFL
According to The Associated Press, the Bills will receive $78 million -- more than double their calculated 2006 operating income -- to play eight games in Toronto the next five years. The Bills say they need to exploit the nearby Canadian market for the team in the NFL's third-smallest market to compete with teams in metropolises. Still, fans worry this market expansion is the first step toward leaving Buffalo, a charter city in the old American Football League. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell dismissed fears the Bills will relocate to Toronto, adding that he believes the franchise's future is more secure with the additional revenue it generates from playing an annual game north of the border. He also said he expects the team to play in western New York for a long time.
4. Florida Panthers, NHL
Principal owner Alan Cohen has a long and attractive lease at BankAtlantic Center. But at some point, won't he get tired of owning the worst-run team in the NHL in the league's worst market? The Panthers regularly have fewer than 10,000 real human bodies in attendance for games, haven't made the playoffs since 2000 and have won more than one playoff round only once in their history. The real question is whether anyone would notice if the Panthers were gone.
5. Sacramento Kings, NBA
Despite ongoing efforts by the NBA and local authorities to get funding for a new arena in Sacramento, the writing could be on the wall. Arco Arena is the third-smallest in capacity. An attempt to get a $600 million arena deal in Sacramento was shot down by voters in 2006. Other indicators: The Kings finished with the fourth-worst home attendance in the league, and their owners, the Maloofs, spend much of their time in Las Vegas overseeing their casinos. So it's clear why there is so much speculation about an eventual move to Sin City. The NBA already has tested the Vegas waters by placing the 2007 All-Star Game and other events there, while Sacramento still has yet to host an All-Star Game.
6. Atlanta Thrashers, NHL
Fan support, never strong to begin with, has dwindled as the team has mismanaged viable prospects. Season-ticket support has fallen dramatically. The Thrashers have made the playoffs just once in their history and have failed to win a single postseason game. Ownership squabbles also continue to dog this franchise, which should have been able to take better advantage of the oodles of corporate money that resides in Atlanta.
7. Minnesota Vikings, NFL
The Vikings have proposed a $954 million complex to be built in downtown Minneapolis, and a retractable-roof stadium was at the heart of the proposal. But in December, the Vikings and stadium proponents got the cold shoulder from the Minnesota legislature about the idea of the state funding the new building. Afterward, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf said the issue "needs to be resolved in the near future." The Vikings' lease at the Metrodome expires in 2011, meaning the team could look at other options very soon.
8. Oakland Athletics, MLB
There have been very few updates on A's owner Lewis Wolff's ambitious proposal to construct a $1.8 billion ballpark village in nearby Fremont, Calif. The proposal has yet to be finalized and is contingent on an environmental report that could take several months to complete, pushing back the potential opening of a new ballpark as far into the future as 2012. Given that the A's have long played second fiddle to the Giants in the Bay Area and have struggled for years to secure any ballpark deal, one would surmise that the A's chances of relocation, while still very, very small, are stronger than most in baseball.
9. Memphis Grizzlies, NBA
Since its inception in Vancouver, the Grizzlies franchise has been troubled. In speculation about which teams might move to Las Vegas, Seattle, Anaheim, San Jose or Kansas City, the Grizzlies often are named. Team owner Michael Heisley has tried in vain to sell the Grizzlies and remains on the lookout for potential buyers. Since he moved the team to Memphis in 2001, Heisley has been disappointed with fan and sponsor support there. Likewise, local fans have become disenchanted with the management of the team under Heisley. But under any owner, moving the Grizzlies out of Memphis would not be an easy task. Several significant hurdles are in place, including a "shall not relocate" clause that local authorities can try to enforce. The Seattle situation proves that leases and other contractual bonds can be negotiated away, but a move from Memphis does not appear imminent.
10. Tampa Bay Rays, MLB
The Rays recently abandoned their plans to build a $450 million waterfront stadium. That doesn't mean they're automatically a relocation candidate, but they have less security now than they had while they were pushing through their ballpark proposal.
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Milwaukee Bucks, NBA:
The Bucks have several factors that have led to speculation about an eventual move. Owner Herb Kohl has actively shopped the franchise at times and almost sold it to a group led by Michael Jordan in 2003. Also, Milwaukee is one of the smallest NBA markets. And the Bucks play in the fourth-oldest NBA arena, with a proposed $300 million downtown facility not receiving much local support. For a buyer, the Bucks could be an attractive franchise. The team has a reasonable payroll and a short-term arena lease, so it could be moved to a new market with relative ease.
New York Islanders, NHL:
This storied franchise plays in one of the worst buildings in the NHL -- Pittsburgh is close, but a new facility is in the works there -- and there seems to be no real timetable for either retrofitting crumbling Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum or building a new facility in the Uniondale, N.Y., area. Owner Charles Wang remains committed to the market. But at some point, the situation simply becomes unworkable, and both the league and the team might be better off packing up those Stanley Cup banners and heading elsewhere.
San Diego Chargers, NFL:
The team's already-constant complaints about Qualcomm Stadium have grown louder (is that possible?) ever since the Padres moved out of Qualcomm and into their beautiful new baseball digs at Petco Park. The team is exploring plans to build a $1.2 billion complex in nearby Chula Vista, Calif., but that plan faces obstacles. Chargers ownership maintains that it wants to keep the team in San Diego, despite the $800 million Los Angeles-area stadium plan unveiled by Ed Roski -- a close friend of the Spanos family, which owns the Chargers.
Jacksonville Jaguars, NFL:
Funny thing about the Jaguars in Jacksonville: They win but still can't consistently sell out in college-football-obsessed Florida. According to the Florida Times-Union, the Jaguars were ranked 28th out of 32 teams in NFL revenue last season. The team's home, Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, doesn't have a naming-rights deal. But the Sports Business Daily reports that Jaguars season-ticket renewals are at a record 84 percent, an increase from 75 percent in 2007.
Florida Marlins, MLB:
Long a strong candidate for relocation, the Marlins appear to have a reasonably secure ballpark deal in place, pending the outcome of a lawsuit brought by local auto magnate Norman Braman. The new stadium, to be built on the site of the Orange Bowl, is scheduled to open in 2011.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3472902
Of course someone out there see's a millionaire teamnapper under their bed... Jax Beach? Maybe Valdosta? Could be the Biloxi Biggots? Mobile Morphs? But really now, the team is secure as any team in the league for now. Our owner has been a man of his word, and HIS WORD says it isn't going anywhere. Ticket sales up over 10%, looking good y'all.
What about the all time league stars? Love em or hate em, the Dallas Cowboys came to the little self hating North Texas burg in Jan. of 1960. The NFL played it's first game in Dallas that year. The 1960 population of the Dallas Metro area? 1,180,000... Gee? Sound familiar? Population of the Jacksonville market today? Jacksonville Metro Area. Population 1,374,644... These boys are betting on us for the long haul!
Texas? Get out of our way, Jacksonville on the GROW!
Ocklawaha
Yeah, I think Jax is safe. However, it was interesting to see a list of teams that others believe are troubled. Locally, its always painted like the Jags are the only professional team having growing pains.
I think if the Islanders move anywhere, it will be to the new Barclays Center in Brooklyn. The rest of the teams listed I could certainly see moving, with the possible exception of the Vikings. I really hope L.A. gets a team soon, and it not be the Jaguars.
Here we go again
Look on the bright side. This time there's two NFL teams ahead of us on the "moving" list for a change and season ticket renewals are up to a record level 84%.
F**k the Jags. If they want to move, go ahead. Maybe then we'll stop wasting tax dollars on their stadium rent.
Wow - that's harsh - maybe you were implying "FUNK" the Jags because you find them groovy. Regardless, I still wonder what the overall impact was/is post 1995. Unfortunately, I find them (the NFL) a necessary evil & cannot imagine where we'd be headed (on this board in particular) if they ever were to depart.........
I find it odd, that no one ever mentions the San Diego Chargers, but rumors have swirled there for 5+ years.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080701/news_1s1canepa.html
This was the first article I have seen them mentioned in, but by the looks of there stadium issue, they should be near the top of the list.
QuoteHere we go again
Lol. It's the story that won't die. At least they're not the main topic of the story this time. It's a slow time of the year for sports and this story just loves to keep crawling out of the grave.
QuoteF**k the Jags. If they want to move, go ahead. Maybe then we'll stop wasting tax dollars on their stadium rent.
Ouch. Love 'em or hate 'em the team is
good for the city.
You won't take my Preds alive! >:(
Quote from: Eazy E on July 07, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
F**k the Jags. If they want to move, go ahead. Maybe then we'll stop wasting tax dollars on their stadium rent.
Uh - The city owns the stadium, the Jaguars pay the city rent.
Would you like it to work the other way?
Quote from: Eazy E on July 07, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
F**k the Jags. If they want to move, go ahead. Maybe then we'll stop wasting tax dollars on their stadium rent.
Yes, because it would be far better for the city to have an empty stadium where there's ZERO rent being paid other than for a handful of times per year where there's a monster truck rally or some college game being played.
The Jaguars generate plenty of income for the city through their lease with Jacksonville. They also bring a certain level of prestige to the city that gives them significant national exposure that costs the city nothing.
Please try being realistic. The negative impact on this city if the Jaguars ever did depart would be pretty significant. There are only 32 cities on the planet that can claim to be part of the NFL. That's a pretty exclusive club.
^Amen to that!
Sooo nice to see one of these "lists" without the Jags on it......
From Yahoo/Forbes:
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ys-forbesmovers101208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
1. Florida Marlins (MLB)
2. Tampa Bay Rays (MLB)
3. Buffalo Bills (NFL)
4. Minnesota Vikings (NFL)
5. San Francisco 49ers (NFL)
6. New York Islanders (NHL)
7. Phoenix Coyotes (NHL)
8. Nashville Predators (NHL)
9. New Orleans Hornets (NBA)
10 Charlotte Bobcats (NBA)
- On a side note, I find it surprising that the MLS is actually in "expansion mode".
It seems the Bills are just destined to leave for Toronto. There is no way they stay in Buffalo after Ralph Wilson dies.
As for the Rays, I think they will slowly fade of these types of lists. They have a young core that is signed long-term and are 2 games away from the World Series. They will get the stadium they need eventually.
Yeah I saw that on Yahoo last night. I kept clicking the "next" arrow thinking I'd see the Teal and Black pop up. Not sure how ticket sales are going this year, but I don't think we've heard about any blackout scares other than the Bills game.
Oh the seemingly CONSTANT reduplication of this UNDYING type of thread! :'( :-[ ::)
I tell ya what; If Jax loses to any of the three teams after the bye week (CLE[even though they looked great against the G-Men], CIN, and DET) we'll hafta kick the Jags outta JAX and give em' to LA, or ORL. :) ;D
I'll be damned if they take my Nashville Predators from my home metro area! >:(
Quote from: copperfiend on October 14, 2008, 09:31:15 AM
It seems the Bills are just destined to leave for Toronto. There is no way they stay in Buffalo after Ralph Wilson dies.
As for the Rays, I think they will slowly fade of these types of lists. They have a young core that is signed long-term and are 2 games away from the World Series. They will get the stadium they need eventually.
Ive heard that most people in Toronto are Bills fans, so I guess that would work, They are only 1 hour apart. I don't think the Rays and the Hornets are moving. Rays may got to the WS & Hornets just missed the NBA finals. The fan bases are too hungry to move.
Let's not count those chickens before they hatch now. The Rays are a great bunch of young and talented kids, but, they haven't made it to the series yet.. The Sox have been in bigger holes and come back to win the series, 2004 down 3-0 to the Yanks. 2007 down 3-1 to the Indians. Let's just wait and see how this plays out before we crown them champs....
Quote from: reednavy on October 14, 2008, 03:19:04 PM
I'll be damned if they take my Nashville Predators from my home metro area! >:(
I dunno...I'm not very optimistic for you guys. I think you may be damned in 4 or 5 years.
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 14, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
Ive heard that most people in Toronto are Bills fans, so I guess that would work, They are only 1 hour apart. I don't think the Rays and the Hornets are moving. Rays may got to the WS & Hornets just missed the NBA finals. The fan bases are too hungry to move.[/color]
Yeah, of course it works for Toronto. They'd love to have the Bills. I don't think Buffalo residents are quite so pleased about that possibility though.
As for the Rays and Hornets...success on the field doesn't prevent franchise relocation. Look at those very Hornets...in Charlotte they made the playoffs three straight years before they moved to New Orleans.
Got it all figured out y'all!
1. Florida Marlins (MLB)
Move to Jacksonville and remain the "Florida Marlins" playing 1/2 of games here, and 1/2 in Miami.
2. Tampa Bay Rays (MLB)
Again a split home-team, with games in St. Pete Dome, Tampa, Orlando
3. Buffalo Bills (NFL)
Become the OKLAHOMA BISONS and head for OKC/Tulsa markets.
4. Minnesota Vikings (NFL)
Move to Birmingham, and shock of shocks revive the BIRMINGHAM VULCAN name.
5. San Francisco 49ers (NFL)
Head down the beach to Los Angeles, after all - who else but California had 49ers?
6. New York Islanders (NHL)
These boyz head to Jamacia and join in the bob sled team in the off season. KINGSTON ISLANDERS.
Seriously, look at LITTLE ROCK and TULSA. Name change to THE MOUNTAINIERS.
7. Phoenix Coyotes (NHL)
Another win for Oklahoma City, the play in the beautiful new FORD center downtown OKLAHOMA COYOTES
8. Nashville Predators (NHL)
Jacksonville Bound, we finally replace the fish, fire ants and Biloxi Biggots with a real team, and we keep supporting them well... JACKSONVILLE FIRE.
9. New Orleans Hornets (NBA)
Landing in Jacksonville's Arena is a clean sweep, the Hornets here are F-18's so we name them the BLUE ANGELS.
10 Charlotte Bobcats (NBA)
They pack their bags and head for SW Florida, playing in a new house at Fort Myers, as the FLORIDA PANTHERS
There any questions? Okay, if you don't like my towns somebody give LITTLE ROCK a call, their another over looked hungry market.
OCKLAWAHA
I like ideas 1 and 2 would be great for all I think,,I wonder would Jax fans go though. I am not a baseball fan at all,been to a few Braves games only because the tickets were given to me. Would Tampa and Miami be willing to share the revenue I dont think so,,still a good idea though. :-\
Florida Marlins, MLB:[/b]
Long a strong candidate for relocation, the Marlins appear to have a reasonably secure ballpark deal in place, pending the outcome of a lawsuit brought by local auto magnate Norman Braman. The new stadium, to be built on the site of the Orange Bowl, is scheduled to open in 2011.[/quote]
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3472902
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The last time I heard, the Orange Bowl just got torn down a while ago. It might still mean there's a possible chance that the Marlins may still stick around to build a new stadium there on that spot.
Quote from: soxfan on October 14, 2008, 06:51:43 PM
Let's not count those chickens before they hatch now. The Rays are a great bunch of young and talented kids, but, they haven't made it to the series yet.. The Sox have been in bigger holes and come back to win the series, 2004 down 3-0 to the Yanks. 2007 down 3-1 to the Indians. Let's just wait and see how this plays out before we crown them champs....
ROFL!!! Tune in tonight buddy. If that series goes back to Tropicana.....GAME OVER!
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 14, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 14, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
Ive heard that most people in Toronto are Bills fans, so I guess that would work, They are only 1 hour apart. I don't think the Rays and the Hornets are moving. Rays may got to the WS & Hornets just missed the NBA finals. The fan bases are too hungry to move.[/color]
Yeah, of course it works for Toronto. They'd love to have the Bills. I don't think Buffalo residents are quite so pleased about that possibility though.
As for the Rays and Hornets...success on the field doesn't prevent franchise relocation. Look at those very Hornets...in Charlotte they made the playoffs three straight years before they moved to New Orleans.
Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!?! You Kidding Me? PLAYOFFS?!
Love Jim Mora
^^^Tha Bears are who we THOUGHT they were!!!!!...and we let em' off the hook!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
:) ;) :D ;D
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 16, 2008, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 14, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 14, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
Ive heard that most people in Toronto are Bills fans, so I guess that would work, They are only 1 hour apart. I don't think the Rays and the Hornets are moving. Rays may got to the WS & Hornets just missed the NBA finals. The fan bases are too hungry to move.[/color]
Yeah, of course it works for Toronto. They'd love to have the Bills. I don't think Buffalo residents are quite so pleased about that possibility though.
As for the Rays and Hornets...success on the field doesn't prevent franchise relocation. Look at those very Hornets...in Charlotte they made the playoffs three straight years before they moved to New Orleans.
Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!?! You Kidding Me? PLAYOFFS?!
Love Jim Mora
Not sure what Jim Mora's rant has to do with what we're talking about...
Dennis Green, haha. nice. I like Mike Gundy cause he's a MAN.
Anyway, sorry soxfan, but Rays just put up 2 in the first. I suspect they'll score 9+ runs again tonight...
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 16, 2008, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 16, 2008, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 14, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 14, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
Ive heard that most people in Toronto are Bills fans, so I guess that would work, They are only 1 hour apart. I don't think the Rays and the Hornets are moving. Rays may got to the WS & Hornets just missed the NBA finals. The fan bases are too hungry to move.[/color]
Yeah, of course it works for Toronto. They'd love to have the Bills. I don't think Buffalo residents are quite so pleased about that possibility though.
As for the Rays and Hornets...success on the field doesn't prevent franchise relocation. Look at those very Hornets...in Charlotte they made the playoffs three straight years before they moved to New Orleans.
Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!?! You Kidding Me? PLAYOFFS?!
Love Jim Mora
Not sure what Jim Mora's rant has to do with what we're talking about...
Dennis Green, haha. nice. I like Mike Gundy cause he's a MAN.
Anyway, sorry soxfan, but Rays just put up 2 in the first. I suspect they'll score 9+ runs again tonight...
You mentioned the Hornets going to the playoffs and then leaving...In the NBA that is pretty easy considering 16 or the 30 teams go to the playoffs. The first round of NBA playoffs mean nothing....thats why I hit you with the Jim Mora classic lol. :)
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 16, 2008, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 16, 2008, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 16, 2008, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 14, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 14, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
Ive heard that most people in Toronto are Bills fans, so I guess that would work, They are only 1 hour apart. I don't think the Rays and the Hornets are moving. Rays may got to the WS & Hornets just missed the NBA finals. The fan bases are too hungry to move.[/color]
Yeah, of course it works for Toronto. They'd love to have the Bills. I don't think Buffalo residents are quite so pleased about that possibility though.
As for the Rays and Hornets...success on the field doesn't prevent franchise relocation. Look at those very Hornets...in Charlotte they made the playoffs three straight years before they moved to New Orleans.
Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!?! You Kidding Me? PLAYOFFS?!
Love Jim Mora
Not sure what Jim Mora's rant has to do with what we're talking about...
Dennis Green, haha. nice. I like Mike Gundy cause he's a MAN.
Anyway, sorry soxfan, but Rays just put up 2 in the first. I suspect they'll score 9+ runs again tonight...
You mentioned the Hornets going to the playoffs and then leaving...In the NBA that is pretty easy considering 16 or the 30 teams go to the playoffs. The first round of NBA playoffs mean nothing....thats why I hit you with the Jim Mora classic lol. :)
Ah, I understand you now...but now I think you're wrong. Charlotte Hornets were a good team before they moved. You say New Orleans did so well last year that their fans won't let them relocate...I say they made it to the second round of the playoffs. Guess what Charlotte did? They made it to the second round of the playoffs their last two seasons there. So if New Orleans duplicates their success from last year, judging from the franchise's history, they'll be gone when the season is over, right?
In any case, I'm not anti-New Orleans at all and I'm not trying to be difficult. Just givin you some facts. I hope they do well, the team stays there, and man...Chris Paul is the best PG in the game right now. Love watching him.
Dude they went to the Western Conference finals against the Lakers...I'm sure fan support is strong. I don't see that team leaving NO.... with in the next 5 seasons. Charlotte wasn't supporting the team, they had beef with the owner or something, there was some sort of problem.
As of right not I think the Rays and Hornets can be taking off the list that was posted.
WHERE THE HELL IS THE REDSOX FAN!!!!! DUDE!!!! SHOW YOUR HEAD!
lol, sorry if im coming off as hostile, but i dont know what planet youre on or why you post things without checking yourself first. You seem like a nice guy and so I apologize if i sound like im just trying to argue with you.
That said, umm, new orleans did not play los angeles in the conference finals. it was spurs-lakers. hornets lost to the spurs at home in game 7...i was really really upset when it happened too, but it's what happened. hornets just couldnt hit free throws that day. not quite sure how you can try to rewrite history, or if youre in denial or something...
anyway, you're right about charlotte having a beef with the owner...he wanted to leave the city and it wasnt fair. in fact, he got in trouble for under-reporting attendance (to make it seem like the fans werent coming). on the other hand, new orleans was under fire for overreporting ticket sales (they resold tickets and reported them to the league as new ticket sales) to make it sound like things were better than they actually were.
again, i feel bad cause i like new orleans and the hornets franchise. I'm not bashing them. Just trying to stick to the facts and be fair to both new orleans and charlotte. last year, new orleans was really good, but no, they didnt make it to the conference finals.
P.S. CANNOT believe what the Red Sox did. I'm a little worried now...this is eerily similar to the '04 comeback over the yankees.
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 16, 2008, 11:10:28 PM
Dude they went to the Western Conference finals against the Lakers...I'm sure fan support is strong. I don't see that team leaving NO.... with in the next 5 seasons. Charlotte wasn't supporting the team, they had beef with the owner or something, there was some sort of problem.
As of right not I think the Rays and Hornets can be taking off the list that was posted.
WHERE THE HELL IS THE REDSOX FAN!!!!! DUDE!!!! SHOW YOUR HEAD!
WOW!!! What a game!!!! I was just about to throw in the towel when my nephew ( who is a Rays fan) text me. It was at the same time as Ortiz's homerun. I told that if they come back and get hot and win the game, they will come back and win this series. They got hot!!! Game 6 here we come!!! I hope Beckett is himself if not I pray that Francona sees it and changes pitchers quickly.. This is going to be great, another huge come from behind series. HISTORY!!!