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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: thelakelander on March 23, 2016, 10:55:15 PM

Title: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: thelakelander on March 23, 2016, 10:55:15 PM
QuoteBy Max Marbut, Staff Writer

Imagine a neighborhood where you could live, work, shop, participate in the arts and worship — all within walking distance of your front door.
That's the vision for The Cathedral District, based on a strategic plan developed by the Urban Land Institute North Florida District Council.

It's also the vision that's been held by the Very Rev. Kate Moorehead since she became dean of St. John's Cathedral nearly seven years ago.

"ULI gave us the path we can walk on. It's exactly what we need," she said.

A two-day analysis was performed Jan. 12-13 by a seven-member ULI Technical Assistance Panel of professionals in architecture, land-use planning, law and marketing.

The area defined as The Cathedral District is bordered on the north by State Street, on the east by Hogan's Creek, on the south by Adams Street and on the west by Main Street.

At its center, on what was known more than a century ago as Billy Goat Hill, is St. John's Cathedral.

Full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=547267
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: Bill Hoff on May 23, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
Looks like there's movement - maybe.

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549906

Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: thelakelander on May 23, 2017, 01:56:52 PM
I planned to run a brief Modern Cities article about this three weeks ago.  I ended up deciding not to do it because the demolition request was pulled from the agenda.  Other than what the Daily Record article mentions, the development would add over 100 residential units to the neighborhood and consist of mix of market-rate housing integrated with indistinguishable affordable units.  It would also be built up to the street edge.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/325-East-Duval-Street-YWCA-Building/i-bhp8Gjh/0/57a5ce7d/L/The-Book-April-26,-2017_Page_1250-L.jpg)
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: Tacachale on May 23, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
It would be a bummer to lose the YWCA. But there's nothing else on that block to save (just a suburban outbuilding, some parking, and a fenced-off playground). It's one of the few lots up there that's like that. This may be the best spot for development.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: thelakelander on May 23, 2017, 02:42:49 PM
It's a cool building. On the other hand, that block is pretty horrible and infill would be a major benefit to the Cathedral district.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: MusicMan on May 23, 2017, 08:50:32 PM
What remains in that area around the police evidence building should be knocked down. It is no longer a neighborhood and has absolutely no connectivity with anything in downtown at all.  It would be great to see the Cathedral District extend into that area with some cool new buildings.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: jaxnyc79 on May 24, 2017, 03:14:52 PM
Tear it down already.  It's not that impressive a building - brick and block-style.  And it's got a suburban setback and parking lot and just looks disjointed.  How are we going to get comprehensive transformation if battles like this stand in the way of more residents and more walkable designs...the lifeblood of a vibrant downtown.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: FlaBoy on May 24, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
It should only be knocked down IF everything is in line and proven to be in line for them to actually build this project. I do not want to see another demolished building that leaves behind a parking lot.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: Tacachale on May 24, 2017, 05:14:04 PM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on May 24, 2017, 03:14:52 PM
Tear it down already.  It's not that impressive a building - brick and block-style.  And it's got a suburban setback and parking lot and just looks disjointed.  How are we going to get comprehensive transformation if battles like this stand in the way of more residents and more walkable designs...the lifeblood of a vibrant downtown.

Not that I disagree on the whole, but the building is in great shape, and does not have a suburban setback.

Quote from: FlaBoy on May 24, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
It should only be knocked down IF everything is in line and proven to be in line for them to actually build this project. I do not want to see another demolished building that leaves behind a parking lot.

Agree entirely.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: KenFSU on May 25, 2017, 12:30:59 PM
Per the Daily Record, only the flat-roofed portion of the building will be torn down.

The remaining L-shaped piece will remain intact.

(http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/storyimages/1495722027roof2.jpg)

The Historic Preservation Commission signed off on the project yesterday.

Read about it here:

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549920 (http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549920)
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: FlaBoy on May 25, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
Great job to find that common ground. Is it the whole block they will be doing over to Liberty and back to Church? I hope so because that will really look good next to the Park at the Cathedral Townhouses there.
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: tufsu1 on May 25, 2017, 11:01:36 PM
^ that is the concept plan
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: Tacachale on May 25, 2017, 11:42:55 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on May 25, 2017, 12:30:59 PM
Per the Daily Record, only the flat-roofed portion of the building will be torn down.

The remaining L-shaped piece will remain intact.

(http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/storyimages/1495722027roof2.jpg)

The Historic Preservation Commission signed off on the project yesterday.

Read about it here:

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549920 (http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=549920)

Ohhh missed that. So much the better, bring it on!
Title: Re: St. John's Cathedral planning urban development district Downtown
Post by: heights unknown on May 26, 2017, 09:35:08 PM
Good news. SOMETHING more going on in big Jax.