Hemming Park Black Sheep Restaurant Renderings
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Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2016-mar-hemming-park-black-sheep-restaurant-renderings
It looks good to me.
*Hipster-prefered 'environmentally friendly' intermodal shipping containers as the restaurant's building? Check!
*Heart of downtown location? Check!
*Outdoor tables & chairs? Check!
*Good eatin'? Check! :)
This should not only create a great plus for the park, but will also add one more positive to the general core infrastructural image as viewed by prospective residents, businesses and visitors looking to engage the core. Basically, its an added bit of permanent energy into the core ... which is what we need. Let's hope that no serious obstacles take root within the minds of those inclined to be obstructionists just for the hell of it.
I love this concept and I think it's great for Hemming Park. Finally went to the restaurant in Five Points this last weekend for the first time. That place is amazing, now I know what everyone has been raving about. Please tell me they are going to have the Poutine with Spare Ribs at the HP location!
Let's get this moving!
Quote from: ronchamblin on March 08, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
This should not only create a great plus for the park, but will also add one more positive to the general core infrastructural image as viewed by prospective residents, businesses and visitors looking to engage the core. Basically, its an added bit of permanent energy into the core ... which is what we need. Let's hope that no serious obstacles take root within the minds of those inclined to be obstructionists just for the hell of it.
You never know. FBC could see this as godless devil worship in their backyard. We all know that the devil is "the black sheep," so it must be stopped.
Quote from: E_Dubya on March 08, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ronchamblin on March 08, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
This should not only create a great plus for the park, but will also add one more positive to the general core infrastructural image as viewed by prospective residents, businesses and visitors looking to engage the core. Basically, its an added bit of permanent energy into the core ... which is what we need. Let's hope that no serious obstacles take root within the minds of those inclined to be obstructionists just for the hell of it.
You never know. FBC could see this as godless devil worship in their backyard. We all know that the devil is "the black sheep," so it must be stopped.
Come on now. When is the last time FBC complained about anything? Wednesday Art Walk happens during their mid week service and there are all kinds of beers in the streets flowing and they have not said a thing.
This idea and these renderings are awesome. Is there any talk of a bathroom, though?
a bathroom is going to be needed very soon in hemming park.
Not just for the regulars, but for new guests who will be visiting for food trucks, black sheep, vagabond, etc
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2016, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: Dapperdan on March 08, 2016, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: E_Dubya on March 08, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ronchamblin on March 08, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
This should not only create a great plus for the park, but will also add one more positive to the general core infrastructural image as viewed by prospective residents, businesses and visitors looking to engage the core. Basically, its an added bit of permanent energy into the core ... which is what we need. Let's hope that no serious obstacles take root within the minds of those inclined to be obstructionists just for the hell of it.
You never know. FBC could see this as godless devil worship in their backyard. We all know that the devil is "the black sheep," so it must be stopped.
Come on now. When is the last time FBC complained about anything? Wednesday Art Walk happens during their mid week service and there are all kinds of beers in the streets flowing and they have not said a thing.
exactly. these kinds of comments are left over from 20 years ago, although even then the church was blamed for literally everything that didn't happen downtown. The problem with misattributing things like this is that you never find out what the real problem is.
First Baptist is committed to having a thriving downtown, and are not the goblins that people would like to redefine them as.
Perhaps...but....
FBC was a controlling force downtown for a lot of years.
They contributed to the wasteland that is downtown now.
Stereotypes don't change overnight.
And I am not convinced that they are not still powerful in downtown issues.
They just don't vocalize them as loud now.
Probably because of forums like this.
But I will bet you a lunch at Metro Diner (a place without a downtown presence) that FBC is still a puppet master for downtown issues.
Of course...I have had vodka tonight. So who knows.
I could be wrong.
But I doubt it.
Quote from: E_Dubya on March 08, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
You never know. FBC could see this as godless devil worship in their backyard. We all know that the devil is "the black sheep," so it must be stopped
Sigh....It's amazing how vociferous the 'FBC is at the helm of every issue in Jax' tin-foilers are. I met this girl from Phoenix who haven't even been here for a year yet, and she was spouting off with the 'FBC controlling everything' rubbish; I was like oh boy...A minority of people are the loudest in the room; They will then spread their 'message' to others, no matter how erroneous it is...
Quote from: Tacachale on March 08, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
This idea and these renderings are awesome. Is there any talk of a bathroom, though?
Yes, a bathroom will be required.
Quote from: Houseboat Mike on March 08, 2016, 10:00:04 PM
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2016, 04:41:28 PM
Quote from: Dapperdan on March 08, 2016, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: E_Dubya on March 08, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: ronchamblin on March 08, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
This should not only create a great plus for the park, but will also add one more positive to the general core infrastructural image as viewed by prospective residents, businesses and visitors looking to engage the core. Basically, its an added bit of permanent energy into the core ... which is what we need. Let's hope that no serious obstacles take root within the minds of those inclined to be obstructionists just for the hell of it.
You never know. FBC could see this as godless devil worship in their backyard. We all know that the devil is "the black sheep," so it must be stopped.
Come on now. When is the last time FBC complained about anything? Wednesday Art Walk happens during their mid week service and there are all kinds of beers in the streets flowing and they have not said a thing.
exactly. these kinds of comments are left over from 20 years ago, although even then the church was blamed for literally everything that didn't happen downtown. The problem with misattributing things like this is that you never find out what the real problem is.
First Baptist is committed to having a thriving downtown, and are not the goblins that people would like to redefine them as.
Perhaps...but....
FBC was a controlling force downtown for a lot of years.
They contributed to the wasteland that is downtown now.
Stereotypes don't change overnight.
And I am not convinced that they are not still powerful in downtown issues.
They just don't vocalize them as loud now.
Probably because of forums like this.
But I will bet you a lunch at Metro Diner (a place without a downtown presence) that FBC is still a puppet master for downtown issues.
Of course...I have had vodka tonight. So who knows.
I could be wrong.
But I doubt it.
Actually ... and oddly enough in retrospect ... my comment ...
"Let's hope that no serious obstacles take root within the minds of those inclined to be obstructionists just for the hell of it.'
... had no presence within my mind as being related to the FBC. I was simply trying to imagine an obstructionist entity or individual appearing out of the blue, perhaps with the most absurd reason to halt or grossly modify the Black Sheep concept or plans. Aren't we occasionally surprised by this kind of thing?
I cannot imagine the FBC opposing this kind of improvement upon the core area, and especially within the park. As someone commented, the FBC institution is not now the boogieman that it once might have been. As with most entities, there is evolution within ... floating, changing, growing ... usually to achieve an inner balance, and a genuinely positive influence upon whatever environment within which it lives.
The presence of FBC in the core is interesting. If one is to express opinions of it, it perhaps should be from a cautious perspective, as the institution's presence is somewhat complex, having a broad range of effects upon the core and the city in general ... many being positives ... with very few negatives. All the while, respect and admiration for this institution should perhaps be encouraged ... even from atheists like myself ... as it has its place in the scheme of things, even now ... just as it has had its place in the past.
Quote from: fieldafm on March 09, 2016, 07:35:13 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on March 08, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
This idea and these renderings are awesome. Is there any talk of a bathroom, though?
Yes, a bathroom will be required.
Agreed. But how long until it someone foolishly decides it needs to remain locked to keep any "undesirables" out?
Only problem I foresee is if BLK SHP adds a bathroom that is fully inclusive per an expanded HRO. Then FBC will be out protesting and pulling strings ;)
Quote from: Crabernacle on March 09, 2016, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: fieldafm on March 09, 2016, 07:35:13 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on March 08, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
This idea and these renderings are awesome. Is there any talk of a bathroom, though?
Yes, a bathroom will be required.
Agreed. But how long until it someone foolishly decides it needs to remain locked to keep any "undesirables" out?
Apologies if that sounded like an opinion. A bathroom will be legally required on the project, as it is required by state law.
It should be noted though that the restroom facilities will be available for customers of Black Sheep, and will not operate as a public restroom (which is the same for any business downtown).
Black Sheep at Hemming Park is preparing to open in the summer.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2016/03/30/downtowns-black-sheep-prepares-for-summer-opening.html
Hemming Park is asking for a new stage. Much needed IMO.
Meanwhile Councilman Matt Schellenberg claims he hasn't seen any progression with the park. Really? Friends of Hemming have completely transformed that place. What an idiot.
article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/morning-edition/2016/04/as-city-council-battle-loomshemming-parks-future.html
He is an idiot. I like what they have done with the park.
There are now lots of kids playing in the park. That says a lot. Pull your ass out of your head buddy!
The Hemming Park group has done wonders in the park. All one must do is remember how the park was before these dedicated individuals set their energies upon it. I hope that the majority of city council members realize the importance of continued funding for the park, as without substantial funding, the park will lose its current momentum and sink to its former resting state of zero energy ... to its desolation. If the momentum is allowed to continue, it will coincide with other potential projects, and energy centers emerging in the core.
6/8/16 Noticed meeting on the Future of Hemming Park scheduled 5pm 4 th floor city hall. Open to the Public.
hemming looks like the ramona flea market. the city keeps dumping money into something with no master plan. pretty sure we've been down this road before.
^ I don't follow? What road would that be? They have consistent programming that brings people who wouldn't otherwise visit the park, along with concerts & other various events. The park looks night & compared to before.
Does anyone know where in the park this is supposed to be placed?
If there is a bar, does that mean that alcohol will be allowed in the park? This *sometimes* open alcohol enforcement is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. People are going to drink if they really want to, might as well let places make a profit.
Quote from: SuzySpringfield on June 09, 2016, 11:31:25 AM
Does anyone know where in the park this is supposed to be placed?
If there is a bar, does that mean that alcohol will be allowed in the park? This *sometimes* open alcohol enforcement is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. People are going to drink if they really want to, might as well let places make a profit.
it'll be fit into the corner behind the Charles Bennett statue, where the current "food court" is, in front of the fences hiding the fountain pumps.