Sarah Palin Endorses Trump
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On Tuesday, January 19, 2016, Sarah Palin endorsed Donald Trump.
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I'm only ten minutes in. It's hard to watch even for some shocked laughter.
A Sarah Palin speech is a series of incomplete sentences, packed with politically-right buzzwords. It's grating but I'm making myself watch it.
I think she lost the audience; especially with her "opium" line...even Trump supporters are like "wtf" is going on.
America's favorite trainwreck. Seems like she needed to pay more attention to her kids.
Even Sarah Palin supporters are like "wtf"...............
The epitome of CRAZY!
Exactly what does this have to do with Jax? Nothing. Must have ran out of stories. I could have read this a million other places.
Quote from: Redbaron616 on January 21, 2016, 10:29:56 PM
Exactly what does this have to do with Jax? Nothing. Must have ran out of stories. I could have read this a million other places.
What does Jacksonville have to do with the electing the president of the united states of america? nothing...? ???
I don't understand the personality that responds to discussions and articles with "and, how does this relate to Jacksonville?"
It's unnecessary commentary. So, there's a box that you think that Jacksonville residents should be in - anything outside of that scope is irrelevant?
Will you post on the New York Times website "and, how does this relate to New York? It doesn't. Boo-ya! "
I'm interested in what Jaxsons have to say about state, national and global issues. We have bright and witty people in our city and on this site. I want to hear their thoughts (and mostly their jokes) on Palin.
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
There is a major difference between now and when the folks you mentioned ran for office. The GOP was not in the serious disarray that it currently is, there was no "Tea Party" and most important there was no internet or social media. This will like all things pass but the lasting impact will be much greater and more far reaching. :)
Sarah Palin makes me want to hurl! How anyone can give any credence to anything she screeches has to be as big a moron as her. I guess when she says "let's make America great again", she means, we can all be like Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas if we can elect me and my toothless, ass backward, cronies. What a joke. She blames Obama for her children's troubles....and millions agree.
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
There is a major difference between now and when the folks you mentioned ran for office. The GOP was not in the serious disarray that it currently is, there was no "Tea Party" and most important there was no internet or social media. This will like all things pass but the lasting impact will be much greater and more far reaching. :)
That's certainly an interesting to consider. The Republican party has been taken over by - or at least held hostage by - extremists. I think this might have started when they actively courted the Christian Coalition in the 90s.
The Democrats, however, have never really had extremists in their ranks. They have some social democrats (like Sanders), but very few actual leftists. Those usually end up in other parties (SPUSA, CPUSA) or organizations (DSA) - and they may occasionally endorse a Democratic candidate for office. But the Democratic Party has always been a very centrist party and a party that tends to reflect the middle of American politics - which is probably why they've been (or have continued to be) the larger party for so long.
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
There is a major difference between now and when the folks you mentioned ran for office. The GOP was not in the serious disarray that it currently is, there was no "Tea Party" and most important there was no internet or social media. This will like all things pass but the lasting impact will be much greater and more far reaching. :)
I just simply disagree. All of these assignments of voting behavior I find ridiculous as if everyone were automatons and if they fit square "X" then they will vote for "X". It totally disregards the individual and their ability to make up their own mind and vote based on their own conscience.
The Democratic "disarray" during the Muskie campaign was exceptional and the major issue if McGovern could garner support from the "fractured" democrats were all over the news at the time. There was plenty of hay made when McGovern got wiped out that much was said about the Democrats "dying" due to their inability to coalesce around him once nominated.
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
There is a major difference between now and when the folks you mentioned ran for office. The GOP was not in the serious disarray that it currently is, there was no "Tea Party" and most important there was no internet or social media. This will like all things pass but the lasting impact will be much greater and more far reaching. :)
I just simply disagree. All of these assignments of voting behavior I find ridiculous as if everyone were automatons and if they fit square "X" then they will vote for "X". It totally disregards the individual and their ability to make up their own mind and vote based on their own conscience.
The Democratic "disarray" during the Muskie campaign was exceptional and the major issue if McGovern could garner support from the "fractured" democrats were all over the news at the time. There was plenty of hay made when McGovern got wiped out that much was said about the Democrats "dying" due to their inability to coalesce around him once nominated.
Yeah, this is true, people belonging to certain "votes" switch around all the time, and many belong to more than one "vote" or faction of the parties to begin with.
And yes, the Dems were in just as much disarray in the past as the Reps are in now, and they recovered. They still are in disarray on the state and local level in Florida.
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
There is a major difference between now and when the folks you mentioned ran for office. The GOP was not in the serious disarray that it currently is, there was no "Tea Party" and most important there was no internet or social media. This will like all things pass but the lasting impact will be much greater and more far reaching. :)
I just simply disagree. All of these assignments of voting behavior I find ridiculous as if everyone were automatons and if they fit square "X" then they will vote for "X". It totally disregards the individual and their ability to make up their own mind and vote based on their own conscience.
The Democratic "disarray" during the Muskie campaign was exceptional and the major issue if McGovern could garner support from the "fractured" democrats were all over the news at the time. There was plenty of hay made when McGovern got wiped out that much was said about the Democrats "dying" due to their inability to coalesce around him once nominated.
There is no square X in this rapidly changing political landscape. :)
Quote from: Tacachale on January 23, 2016, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 23, 2016, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 22, 2016, 06:39:09 PM
The endorsement of Palin in support of Trump has done two things. One is to divide the evangelical vote in the GOP, intended of course to impact Cruz. The second is that the GOP has managed to take the stupid in their party and parade it right on the front porch for the world to see. Best worldwide reality T.V. show airing. :o I honestly cannot figure out why those that are sane in the GOP have remained so silent and allowed CNN to pimp Trump for ratings while the GOP ticket devolves into a mud wrestling match at every debate. Honestly, I don't know how they hold their heads up. I would be having a fit and doing everything in my power to counter the insanity. The GOP will not recover anytime soom.
The same said about Muskie, Humphrey, McGovern and the Dems live on today. So this too shall pass.
There is a major difference between now and when the folks you mentioned ran for office. The GOP was not in the serious disarray that it currently is, there was no "Tea Party" and most important there was no internet or social media. This will like all things pass but the lasting impact will be much greater and more far reaching. :)
I just simply disagree. All of these assignments of voting behavior I find ridiculous as if everyone were automatons and if they fit square "X" then they will vote for "X". It totally disregards the individual and their ability to make up their own mind and vote based on their own conscience.
The Democratic "disarray" during the Muskie campaign was exceptional and the major issue if McGovern could garner support from the "fractured" democrats were all over the news at the time. There was plenty of hay made when McGovern got wiped out that much was said about the Democrats "dying" due to their inability to coalesce around him once nominated.
Yeah, this is true, people belonging to certain "votes" switch around all the time, and many belong to more than one "vote" or faction of the parties to begin with.
And yes, the Dems were in just as much disarray in the past as the Reps are in now, and they recovered. They still are in disarray on the state and local level in Florida.
Indeed the Dem's have been in and are still in disarray on the state and local levels but they are also experiencing a great deal of upset at the level of the DNC and over Clinton's former campaign manager and DNC leader Debbie Wasserman. Bernie Sanders is the much needed wake up call to the Democrat party. :) However, never have I seen the amount of competing agendas and dialog as we are currently seeing coming from the GOP. The number of candidates with a special nod to the bizarre presence of Trump as front runner and Ben Carson doing, well I am not sure what in tandem with a Republican platform that is pretty much about fear mongering, tearing down the country and an obstructionist approach to doing business at the top level of government along with the influence of the Tea Party has torn the GOP to shreds and the credibility of the party and what it means is now being closely questioned.
If only Roger Ailes had a time machine...
Trump did not get his popularity by conservatives through his name or any specific policy pitch, he mostly gets it because he is perceived as someone who would not just shake up the country, but the current Republican apparatus: The one that for consecutive prez election cycles provided one of the most ineffective presidential candidates (McCain who was ironically helped by Sarah Palin's veep nomination) followed by one of the most insincere ones (Romney).
If the old guard GOP really feel that a Trump candidacy would lose them the presidency and hurt the party for years to come, they should have gotten together during Trump's initial surge in popularity with Fox News CEO Ailes, Newsmax, and other old school GOP leaning websites together and told them from now on, stop mentioning or displaying on your TV or website the latest poll results - even your own!
But why? Well, because of a lot of voter dissatisfaction, Trump's name is the first that comes up when those voters are polled. But also many of them think he's not electable. Their reasoning is that I may be alone voicing my support of Trump but hopefully that gets one of the other GOP candidates to feel my frustration and get their shit together so I could eventually vote for that guy. Now they may see other pollss with favorable showings for Trump, but when their beloved Fox News shows this in big bright letters and numbers on the TV, now those supporters feel empowered, no longer a lone voice. The Tea Party concept works the same way.
One thing about these Trump supporters, if you showed them a poll reversing Trump and Jeb Bush's numbers, most would end up holding their nose and get behind Bush because they may be outraged but they're not stupid. Since you can't just make up poll numbers, just DON'T SHOW 'EM! You can keep covering Trump as before, just only mention polls when a candidate starts gaining in them or Trump loses points but never display results on the screen (out of sight, out of mind). Fox News has every right to choose what it does and does not show or cover, and it's not like a typical angry Republican will be going to a "mainstream" newscast or website for solace. His poll numbers will still be high, but their appearance on other channels and websites would be second guessed with his elect-ability further questioned.
It's too late now with the Iowa caucus coming up and New Hampshire soon after. But even though their words and actions don't show it, deep down Republicans consider themselves more with a mainstream than a militia mindset. So if a Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio can gain more traction, conservatives, be them establishment or angry, would rather go with the flow rather than root for the show.