QuoteFP&L's weighs option of demolishing Cedar Bay Generating Station. The huge electric generating station on the banks of the Broward River got built after a storm of controversy, went on to become a Northside landmark with its tall tower visible from miles away, and recently was bought by Florida Power & Light in a novel plan by the company to shut it down over the next two years.
More of the story is in the link below.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-12-26/story/fpls-weighs-option-demolishing-cedar-bay-generating-station
If the plant is in good shape, I can see them repurposing the plant as opposed to outright demolishing it.
Quote from: thelakelander on December 26, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
If the plant is in good shape, I can see them repurposing the plant as opposed to outright demolishing it.
With LNG getting so cheap and it already has built interconnects with the regional grid, I wouldn't be surprised if this is re-purposed into either a peaker plant, or a full time LNG burner.
When they decommed the coal plant down in Enterprise, FL on Lake Monroe, they simply tore down the coal infrastructure, cleaned up the brownfield and made a peaker out of it.
With Jaxport becoming an LNG import hub, I can see some of the economics working in their favor.
Another option would be to convert it to a biomass burner. One of the largest exporters of biomass (Georgia Biomass) is just a few miles north of us in Waycross and exports out of Savannah.
https://www.southernenvironment.org/uploads/maps/Wood_Pellet_Exports_2015_0202.pdf (https://www.southernenvironment.org/uploads/maps/Wood_Pellet_Exports_2015_0202.pdf)
But not everyone is behind that approach.
http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/wood-pellet-biomass-pollution-FS.pdf (http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/wood-pellet-biomass-pollution-FS.pdf)
The biggest issue is that the creation of the pellets creates more pollution than the combustion of them does. The same problem electric/hybrid cars have.
Quote from: spuwho on December 26, 2015, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 26, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
If the plant is in good shape, I can see them repurposing the plant as opposed to outright demolishing it.
With LNG getting so cheap and it already has built interconnects with the regional grid, I wouldn't be surprised if this is re-purposed into either a peaker plant, or a full time LNG burner.
When they decommed the coal plant down in Enterprise, FL on Lake Monroe, they simply tore down the coal infrastructure, cleaned up the brownfield and made a peaker out of it.
With Jaxport becoming an LNG import hub, I can see some of the economics working in their favor.
Another option would be to convert it to a biomass burner. One of the largest exporters of biomass (Georgia Biomass) is just a few miles north of us in Waycross and exports out of Savannah.
https://www.southernenvironment.org/uploads/maps/Wood_Pellet_Exports_2015_0202.pdf (https://www.southernenvironment.org/uploads/maps/Wood_Pellet_Exports_2015_0202.pdf)
But not everyone is behind that approach.
http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/wood-pellet-biomass-pollution-FS.pdf (http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/wood-pellet-biomass-pollution-FS.pdf)
The biggest issue is that the creation of the pellets creates more pollution than the combustion of them does. The same problem electric/hybrid cars have.
Just as a note lng is not burned in a power plant directly. It is liquified natural gas which is returned to gas form before entering the pipeline system to be delivered to end users, one example being gas power plants.
Also the USA no longer needs to import lng. Due to fracking we as a country are awash in natural gas. At this point we are looking to export lng. Due to this natural gas is very cheap currently.
Quote from: JHAT76 on December 27, 2015, 08:32:30 AM
Quote from: spuwho on December 26, 2015, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 26, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
If the plant is in good shape, I can see them repurposing the plant as opposed to outright demolishing it.
With LNG getting so cheap and it already has built interconnects with the regional grid, I wouldn't be surprised if this is re-purposed into either a peaker plant, or a full time LNG burner.
When they decommed the coal plant down in Enterprise, FL on Lake Monroe, they simply tore down the coal infrastructure, cleaned up the brownfield and made a peaker out of it.
With Jaxport becoming an LNG import hub, I can see some of the economics working in their favor.
Another option would be to convert it to a biomass burner. One of the largest exporters of biomass (Georgia Biomass) is just a few miles north of us in Waycross and exports out of Savannah.
https://www.southernenvironment.org/uploads/maps/Wood_Pellet_Exports_2015_0202.pdf (https://www.southernenvironment.org/uploads/maps/Wood_Pellet_Exports_2015_0202.pdf)
But not everyone is behind that approach.
http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/wood-pellet-biomass-pollution-FS.pdf (http://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/wood-pellet-biomass-pollution-FS.pdf)
The biggest issue is that the creation of the pellets creates more pollution than the combustion of them does. The same problem electric/hybrid cars have.
Just as a note lng is not burned in a power plant directly. It is liquified natural gas which is returned to gas form before entering the pipeline system to be delivered to end users, one example being gas power plants.
Also the USA no longer needs to import lng. Due to fracking we as a country are awash in natural gas. At this point we are looking to export lng. Due to this natural gas is very cheap currently.
Yep, that is correct. LNG would have to be returned to its CNG form before combustion.
I made the remark due to the fact that Jax is becoming a major LNG terminal.