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Title: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 06:46:48 PM
Interesting set of events. Richt comes back home to UM:

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Mark Richt (9). Jim Kelly's back up QB.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14275799/miami-hurricanes-name-mark-richt-new-head-coach

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Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: I-10east on December 02, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
IMO that's a good pickup for the U.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: Tacachale on December 02, 2015, 08:30:40 PM
^Word. I still can't believe he was let go at UGA
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: FSBA on December 02, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
I think Dan Mullen would've been a better hire for Miami. One of the weird things in Florida high school recruiting is that the high schools are all running some version of the spread while UF and FSU are running pro style offenses. It would've given Miami a leg up in recruiting and also would've landed them a coach on the accent.

Richt is certainly an upgrade from Golden, but I wouldn't  bet the farm on him getting Miami a 6th national title.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
5 years $20 million. Top assistants will be paid as high as $2 to $2.5 million annually. This is a change for UM. Will be interested to see what a decent paid coaching staff can recruit and put together in South Florida.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: FSBA on December 02, 2015, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
5 years $20 million. Top assistants will be paid as high as $2 to $2.5 million annually. This is a change for UM. Will be interested to see what a decent paid coaching staff can recruit and put together in South Florida.

Source?
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: camarocane on December 02, 2015, 09:31:36 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
5 years $20 million. Top assistants will be paid as high as $2 to $2.5 million annually. This is a change for UM. Will be interested to see what a decent paid coaching staff can recruit and put together in South Florida.

Uncle Luke is already talking about bringing Randy Shannon back. I really do hope they keep coach Kehoe though.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: FSBA on December 02, 2015, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
5 years $20 million. Top assistants will be paid as high as $2 to $2.5 million annually. This is a change for UM. Will be interested to see what a decent paid coaching staff can recruit and put together in South Florida.

Source?
ESPN radio.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: spuwho on December 02, 2015, 10:01:54 PM
Total madness that a Div 1 coach playing in the hardest conference in the US and averages 10 wins a season is not just on the bubble but is let go.

Richt and eventually Les Miles.

Its not Saban that makes Bama, its his high paid assistants and recruiting staff.

Stoops at Oklahoma is a great example of someone who can coach because he doesnt overpay his assistants. He has turned over god knows how many assistants in his career there, yet he still does well there and is able to recruit talent.

The whole thing is a bubble waiting to burst.

I enjoy college football as much as anyone, but school "pride" is way out of hand. Let it fall.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: tufsu1 on December 02, 2015, 10:37:16 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
5 years $20 million. Top assistants will be paid as high as $2 to $2.5 million annually. This is a change for UM. Will be interested to see what a decent paid coaching staff can recruit and put together in South Florida.

well there goes all the money they might have spent on a stadium....and Beckham's soccer stadium plans are on life support...guess Marcus Lemonis is going to have to pony up more cash!
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 10:43:22 PM
Win and even Joe Robbie, Pro Player, Sunlife or whatever the Dolphin's stadium is named now, will mysteriously fill up.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: mtraininjax on December 03, 2015, 12:41:38 AM
He will not have the same Athletic Department resources he had at UGA, but then again, he only has one million dollar booster who gets on Youtube and whines about UM football, so he has a softer AD. UM will never be the way it was under Johnson, but maybe that is a good thing. Will be glad to see Richt leave the state of Georgia. He's a helluva recruiter.

QuoteWin and even Joe Robbie, Pro Player, Sunlife or whatever the Dolphin's stadium is named now, will mysteriously fill up.

It may fill up, only to be emptied by the damn South Florida rain storms. You guys really need a dome stadium in Miami!
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 05:45:11 AM
^They are putting a roof on it now. Here's what it will look like:

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Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: tufsu1 on December 03, 2015, 07:41:00 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 02, 2015, 10:43:22 PM
Win and even Joe Robbie, Pro Player, Sunlife or whatever the Dolphin's stadium is named now, will mysteriously fill up.

You know as well as I do that it will fill up maybe twice a year
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: MusicMan on December 03, 2015, 07:59:14 AM
They were 8-4 this year, and nobody came. Richt will freak out once he's played games before 15,000 people in the stadium.

Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: camarocane on December 03, 2015, 08:07:40 AM
Dont know why everyone has a problem with the game attendance. This has always been a problem with the new venue.  Regardless, I believe it would only impact recruting which has not been a problem in the past. Randy Shannon had the #1 recruting class back in 08 and 29-22 record with those players. IMO we've just been strung with three BAD coaches since Davis left.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 08:23:52 AM
Win and the stadium problem will work itself out. Doak will be their home away from home. They can flood out the swamp too, if UF grows a pair and puts them back on their schedule!
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: Bridges on December 03, 2015, 08:34:00 AM
Canes fans are so cute. 

I still can't find the contract numbers.  I know Lake stated them earlier, but I'm pretty sure that is his contract from Georgia.  Maybe Miami just copied it word for word, but that would be odd.  Besides, should be able to get a little discount since Georgia is offering to still pay him $4 mil.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 08:41:06 AM
Canes were preparing to pay him a minimum of $4 million a year:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article47621610.html
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: CityLife on December 03, 2015, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: spuwho on December 02, 2015, 10:01:54 PM
Total madness that a Div 1 coach playing in the hardest conference in the US and averages 10 wins a season is not just on the bubble but is let go.

Richt and eventually Les Miles.

Not even slightly mad. Richt should have been let go at UGA years ago. UGA had a hard time cutting the cord, because he's a good man and likeable. The SEC East has been down for years and Richt was not able to capitalize, despite being in one of the most talent rich areas in the country. In the past 7 years UGA has gone 8-5, 6-7, 10-4, 12-2, 8-5, 10-3, and  9-3. That is not acceptable at Georgia. With access to talent in Atlanta, resources at UGA, and the recent struggles of Florida and Tennessee; Richt should have had them rolling.

His success at Miami will depend on how good of a staff he puts together imo. Miami has been cheap with assistants recently, and need a strong staff if they want to get back. 
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: CityLife on December 03, 2015, 09:00:41 AMNot even slightly mad. Richt should have been let go at UGA years ago. UGA had a hard time cutting the cord, because he's a good man and likeable. The SEC East has been down for years and Richt was not able to capitalize, despite being in one of the most talent rich areas in the country. In the past 7 years UGA has gone 8-5, 6-7, 10-4, 12-2, 8-5, 10-3, and  9-3. That is not acceptable at Georgia. With access to talent in Atlanta, resources at UGA, and the recent struggles of Florida and Tennessee; Richt should have had them rolling.

Pretty much. After 15 years, it was just time for them to move on. Halle Berry didn't become instant trash when David Justice left her.  In Miami's current situation, Halle Berry became available on Sunday, the Canes pounced and swiftly closed the deal.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: copperfiend on December 03, 2015, 09:15:24 AM
Quote from: CityLife on December 03, 2015, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: spuwho on December 02, 2015, 10:01:54 PM
Total madness that a Div 1 coach playing in the hardest conference in the US and averages 10 wins a season is not just on the bubble but is let go.

Richt and eventually Les Miles.

Not even slightly mad. Richt should have been let go at UGA years ago. UGA had a hard time cutting the cord, because he's a good man and likeable. The SEC East has been down for years and Richt was not able to capitalize, despite being in one of the most talent rich areas in the country. In the past 7 years UGA has gone 8-5, 6-7, 10-4, 12-2, 8-5, 10-3, and  9-3. That is not acceptable at Georgia. With access to talent in Atlanta, resources at UGA, and the recent struggles of Florida and Tennessee; Richt should have had them rolling.

His success at Miami will depend on how good of a staff he puts together imo. Miami has been cheap with assistants recently, and need a strong staff if they want to get back. 


Not to mention that since the Gators last title in 2008, the East has been very mediocre. And Georgia has only won it twice. They have lost games they have no business losing. Last year's game against Florida was a great example. He can recruit good players but that has not been the issue at Miami.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: Bridges on December 03, 2015, 09:49:32 AM
UGA lost to Treon Harris twice.  That is cause enough for termination. 
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: spuwho on December 03, 2015, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: CityLife on December 03, 2015, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: spuwho on December 02, 2015, 10:01:54 PM
Total madness that a Div 1 coach playing in the hardest conference in the US and averages 10 wins a season is not just on the bubble but is let go.

Richt and eventually Les Miles.

Not even slightly mad. Richt should have been let go at UGA years ago. UGA had a hard time cutting the cord, because he's a good man and likeable. The SEC East has been down for years and Richt was not able to capitalize, despite being in one of the most talent rich areas in the country. In the past 7 years UGA has gone 8-5, 6-7, 10-4, 12-2, 8-5, 10-3, and  9-3. That is not acceptable at Georgia. With access to talent in Atlanta, resources at UGA, and the recent struggles of Florida and Tennessee; Richt should have had them rolling.

His success at Miami will depend on how good of a staff he puts together imo. Miami has been cheap with assistants recently, and need a strong staff if they want to get back.

"Most talent rich areas"

You can say that about any US metro area with universities nearby. It's clear that expectations exceed capability. *Everyone* can't be #1.

It's gotten out of control, the pressure on coaches to produce revenue, and lets face it, it is about the dough, has reached crazy proportions.

The combined income of these Div 1 football coaches is beginning to exceed the GNP of 3rd world countries.

I hate more regs, but perhaps the NCAA needs to cap head coach and assistant salaries. The priorities are in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: tufsu1 on December 03, 2015, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 08:23:52 AM
Win and the stadium problem will work itself out. Doak will be their home away from home.

Good luck with that.  Miami has won 4 times in Tallahassee in the last 12 trips (going back to 1993).  FSU has won 7 times starting in 1994.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: MusicMan on December 03, 2015, 01:50:42 PM
Quote: "UGA lost to Treon Harris twice.  That is cause enough for termination."

Really? Twice? To Treon Harris?  And who was head coach?  Mark Richt.  Lake, you sure you want this guy?

Miami has problems that run way deeper than poor coaching ... This year they got beat worse than any two losses in history,

by Clemson and North Carolina. 58-0  and 59-21. Some of that IS on the coaches but a lot of it is on the players.  They quit.

On themselves AND their fans. Not sure Mark Richt can fix that. He should have taken a year off and spent some of the $20-30 million he

has made in Athens the last 15 years.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on December 03, 2015, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 08:23:52 AM
Win and the stadium problem will work itself out. Doak will be their home away from home.

Good luck with that.  Miami has won 4 times in Tallahassee in the last 12 trips (going back to 1993).  FSU has won 7 times starting in 1994.
LOL, since a random year like 1994? Interesting since that's around the same time Miami went on probation for the first time. Start counting those statistics when the opponent is down!
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 02:41:36 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on December 03, 2015, 01:50:42 PM
Quote: "UGA lost to Treon Harris twice.  That is cause enough for termination."

Really? Twice? To Treon Harris?  And who was head coach?  Mark Richt.  Lake, you sure you want this guy?

Miami has problems that run way deeper than poor coaching ... This year they got beat worse than any two losses in history,

by Clemson and North Carolina. 58-0  and 59-21. Some of that IS on the coaches but a lot of it is on the players.  They quit.

On themselves AND their fans. Not sure Mark Richt can fix that. He should have taken a year off and spent some of the $20-30 million he

has made in Athens the last 15 years.
Why take a year off when you can go home and get an extra $4 million on top of the $4 million Georgia still owes?  Turn that $20-30 into $30-$40. Plus take advantage of what may be the ACC's best QB in your first year. Add to the fact that you may have the most talented team in a horrible ACC Coastal (still went 8-4 despite some pretty bad losses) and the conversation ends up being...why not?  A one or two win improvement next year, pretty much gets him in the ACC championship game, and at that point anything can happen.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: Bridges on December 03, 2015, 02:57:27 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 02:41:36 PM
Why take a year off when you can go home and get an extra $4 million on top of the $4 million Georgia still owes?  Turn that $20-30 into $30-$40. Plus take advantage of what may be the ACC's best QB in your first year. Add to the fact that you may have the most talented team in a horrible ACC Coastal (still went 8-4 despite some pretty bad losses) and the conversation ends up being...why not?  A one or two win improvement next year, pretty much gets him in the ACC championship game, and at that point anything can happen.

Wow.  This is stunningly biased.  "Best QB in ACC"?  That is so clearly Watson.  Heck, Kaaya isn't even the best QB in the Coastal.  Way to dismiss UNC, who should be undefeated, and who will be returning almost whole team next year. 
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
^I did say "what may be" the best. You can't leave those three key words out. Oh and yes. I do believe UM is just as talented as UNC. They are a lot closer than that score indicated.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: MusicMan on December 03, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Lake, best thing that may come out of this is they will let you ride your orange and green unicorn out onto Sun Life field to plant a Hurricane warning flag, or something.........just prior to Richt's first home game.

15 years at UGA and no National Championships.

The highlights of his career came while he was at FSU as Offensive Coordinator: 2 Heisman winning QB's and 2 National Championships.

He's good, but not great.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 05:51:08 PM
There aren't many great ones. Right now, UM needs better than Golden. Hard to argue that Richt doesn't have a better track record and history with the program. Being a good South Florida recruiter is also a plus. Giving the former Canes more access is also a bonus. Now it's time to round out the rest of the coaching staff. More Cane's please.
Title: Re: Mark Richt is UM's new head coach
Post by: tufsu1 on December 03, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on December 03, 2015, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 03, 2015, 08:23:52 AM
Win and the stadium problem will work itself out. Doak will be their home away from home.

Good luck with that.  Miami has won 4 times in Tallahassee in the last 12 trips (going back to 1993).  FSU has won 7 times starting in 1994.
LOL, since a random year like 1994? Interesting since that's around the same time Miami went on probation for the first time. Start counting those statistics when the opponent is down!

I counted the last 20+ years...1994 was my first year in Tally