QuoteLondon calling hasn't been a game-changer for Jacksonville's job growth.
Each time the Jaguars play overseas, a Jacksonville delegation of city and civic leaders pack their bags for a week-long trip to meet European companies on their home turf, most recently this week for the Jaguars' game against the Buffalo Bills.
The trips have gotten thousands of dollars in taxpayer support and high-profile attention from mayors the past three years. But so far, they haven't wooed any European-based company to open a new location in Jacksonville.
Full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-10-24/story/london-trips-show-few-results-time-money-spent-jacksonville-delegation
QuoteDeutsche Bank plans to add 350 jobs at an average salary of $64,356 at its Southside location. The City Council agreed this month to $959,000 in financial incentives.
Almost one million in incentives and the city couldn't convince them to occupy space Downtown?
Wait, who am I kidding, St Johns Town Center is our Downtown ::)
Nope. If they wanted to be in a vibrant urban environment they would have stayed in NYC.
I feel like the lack of (any) direct flights across the pond from JAX takes the sexiness out of things from the start. Not sure what comes first though...
Jags in London isn't just about the city.
NFL (with Shad's permission) is using the Jags in London as a test tube of new concepts.
While the webcast only of todays game was considered a total business flop, it was the first broadcast of an NFL game exclusively via Internet.
Yahoo paid $20 Million for the rights, and while they couldn't get the ad revenue they wanted (50% discounts on 30sec ads were seen), they also ran into some regional distribution issues at many of the CDN's. Many areas got a great deal of pixelation or freezes. Some areas did not.
That is what the NFL wanted to see in this game. Can the NFL use this distribution method effectively? NFL sees the cord cutters too.
The Jags will also be in the forefront on the new NFL deal with Tottenham, especially if the Wembley renewal goes sour.
The Jags are also using new marketing tools through their British fan club, Union Jax to broaden their appeal to British fans.
This is all great for the NFL and the Jags. Not much to show for the city....yet.
Personally, the city is just along for the ride, while the NFL sells itself. Kind of like being invited to a friends party but you aren't the people they are there to see.
Some of these business relationships may take years to develop. Companies don't locate due to a sports team, otherwise everyone would be moving to Denver or Boston.
However, having the NFL provide an opportunity to expose what one has to offer to an audience not accustomed to seeing many civic pitches from US cities is an opportunity one shouldn't waste. In this case Jax is making the most of it while it happens.
^ Like Baby from Dirty Dancing..."I carried a watermelon".
But hey, "nobody puts Baby in a corner".
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on October 26, 2015, 08:56:31 AM
Quote from: spuwho on October 26, 2015, 12:16:18 AM
Jags in London isn't just about the city.
NFL (with Shad's permission) is using the Jags in London as a test tube of new concepts.
While the webcast only of todays game was considered a total business flop, it was the first broadcast of an NFL game exclusively via Internet.
Yahoo paid $20 Million for the rights, and while they couldn't get the ad revenue they wanted (50% discounts on 30sec ads were seen), they also ran into some regional distribution issues at many of the CDN's. Many areas got a great deal of pixelation or freezes. Some areas did not.
That is what the NFL wanted to see in this game. Can the NFL use this distribution method effectively? NFL sees the cord cutters too.
The Jags will also be in the forefront on the new NFL deal with Tottenham, especially if the Wembley renewal goes sour.
The Jags are also using new marketing tools through their British fan club, Union Jax to broaden their appeal to British fans.
This is all great for the NFL and the Jags. Not much to show for the city....yet.
Personally, the city is just along for the ride, while the NFL sells itself. Kind of like being invited to a friends party but you aren't the people they are there to see.
Some of these business relationships may take years to develop. Companies don't locate due to a sports team, otherwise everyone would be moving to Denver or Boston.
However, having the NFL provide an opportunity to expose what one has to offer to an audience not accustomed to seeing many civic pitches from US cities is an opportunity one shouldn't waste. In this case Jax is making the most of it while it happens.
This is NFL-water-carrying at its absolute worst.
Data shows this a flop? Just blindly insist, "Nun-uh! Nun-uh! We are out there marketing! It's going to work, all evidence to the contrary because NFL!!!"
"The city is just along for the ride"?????? THEN LET THE NFL PICK UP THE TAB AND NOT US.
It's really just an opportunity for a taxpayer-funded trip to London. They throw in the meetings to "justify" the expense - and probably to make themselves feel important as well.
It would be funny if it wasn't so insulting.
Not sure how this fits into the grand scheme of things, but the high of watching yesterday's game led me to book a week in London for the next Jags game held there.
Quote from: ben says on October 26, 2015, 10:59:09 AM
Not sure how this fits into the grand scheme of things, but the high of watching yesterday's game led me to book a week in London for the next Jags game held there.
Oops. Make sure to talk up Jacksonville while you're over there.
Quote from: ben says on October 26, 2015, 10:59:09 AM
Not sure how this fits into the grand scheme of things, but the high of watching yesterday's game led me to book a week in London for the next Jags game held there.
How'd you know which week to book???
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 26, 2015, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: ben says on October 26, 2015, 10:59:09 AM
Not sure how this fits into the grand scheme of things, but the high of watching yesterday's game led me to book a week in London for the next Jags game held there.
How'd you know which week to book???
Booked an 'option' at my favorite hotel, which is basically travel industry speak for: I've guaranteed a room (via a small deposit), to be confirmed when the game itself is confirmed.
I know there is a lot of scepticism/cynicism with the whole Jags playing in London thing, but many people across the pong are looking at the Jags as their hometown team. A good friend of mine works for the Jags (flew on the team plane across the pond and travels to ALL games with them) - know a few other people who've been to the last 2 games - and they say the feelings towards the team are palpable.
I would think there is more than a small market for "reverse tourism NFL style." Londoners who want to come to Jax for a few day golf, beach, and an NFL home game at Everbank. Not sure if you could make any money on it but sure seems like a no-brainer.
Quote from: ben says on October 26, 2015, 12:10:30 PM
I know there is a lot of scepticism/cynicism with the whole Jags playing in London thing, but many people across the pong are looking at the Jags as their hometown team. A good friend of mine works for the Jags (flew on the team plane across the pond and travels to ALL games with them) - know a few other people who've been to the last 2 games - and they say the feelings towards the team are palpable.
I doubt if some are ever going to "get it" -- but this is without a doubt a huge coup for Jacksonville. In time, even the most skeptical won't be able to seriously deny it even as they insist they just don't get it.
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
Quote from: ben says on October 26, 2015, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 26, 2015, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: ben says on October 26, 2015, 10:59:09 AM
Not sure how this fits into the grand scheme of things, but the high of watching yesterday's game led me to book a week in London for the next Jags game held there.
How'd you know which week to book???
Booked an 'option' at my favorite hotel, which is basically travel industry speak for: I've guaranteed a room (via a small deposit), to be confirmed when the game itself is confirmed.
I know there is a lot of scepticism/cynicism with the whole Jags playing in London thing, but many people across the pong are looking at the Jags as their hometown team. A good friend of mine works for the Jags (flew on the team plane across the pond and travels to ALL games with them) - know a few other people who've been to the last 2 games - and they say the feelings towards the team are palpable.
Ah, thats what I was thinking you did. Savvy traveler ;)
I dont understand why some people don't realize the benefit of the London game (there are some who just don't). But I do understand why some people don't like losing a game, and I also understand why some are skeptical that London in the long run won't steal our franchise. It is a legitimate possibility...the more the fanbase over there grows with us the more possible it is.
Anyway, it's here and it's happening so all we can do is make the most of it and grow the base here in FL!! I trust that Khan truly wants to make this work in Jax so let's help him out!
The press coverage in London is improving, if a bit slowly.
Last year's coverage of the Jags in London didn't even warrant a photo, only a small mention in the Times.
This year is much different.
The Times has zero coverage, but the Daily Mail ran a photo laden feature.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-3288915/Buffalo-Bills-31-34-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Allen-Hurns-touchdown-seals-dramatic-win.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-3288915/Buffalo-Bills-31-34-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Allen-Hurns-touchdown-seals-dramatic-win.html)
If 84,000 people showed up for a cricket match in the US, that would be big news here. 84,000 people at Wembley is still not enough in the eyes of the British press.
Perhaps we need to get a former British Rugby star to play. Australia went all out when Jarryd Hayne made the 49ers roster.
Quote from: spuwho on October 27, 2015, 12:18:31 AM
The press coverage in London is improving, if a bit slowly.
Last year's coverage of the Jags in London didn't even warrant a photo, only a small mention in the Times.
This year is much different.
The Times has zero coverage, but the Daily Mail ran a photo laden feature.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-3288915/Buffalo-Bills-31-34-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Allen-Hurns-touchdown-seals-dramatic-win.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-3288915/Buffalo-Bills-31-34-Jacksonville-Jaguars-Allen-Hurns-touchdown-seals-dramatic-win.html)
If 84,000 people showed up for a cricket match in the US, that would be big news here. 84,000 people at Wembley is still not enough in the eyes of the British press.
Perhaps we need to get a former British Rugby star to play. Australia went all out when Jarryd Hayne made the 49ers roster.
It might have something to do with the fact that The Times, Mail, Guardian, etc are national papers, not London papers. And there is a very big problem (whether real or perceived) that London gets too much attention or whatever at the expense of the rest of the country.
When I worked in London, the British press didnt have very high opinions of the US.
When we hosted a press conference at 7:30AM I never heard so much whining in my entire life.
We provided coffee and tea due to the early meet. They all complained about how the US is so "McDonalds 24x7" about everything and why cant we be "normal".
I just ignored it, but the attitude persisted throughout.
The regular Brits were awesome. Very nice people who went out of their way to make us welcome while we worked there. Very passionate about their sports, but it was hard to get up for a sport that is so different for them.
Quote from: spuwho on October 27, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
When I worked in London, the British press didnt have very high opinions of the US.
When we hosted a press conference at 7:30AM I never heard so much whining in my entire life.
We provided coffee and tea due to the early meet. They all complained about how the US is so "McDonalds 24x7" about everything and why cant we be "normal".
I just ignored it, but the attitude persisted throughout.
The regular Brits were awesome. Very nice people who went out of their way to make us welcome while we worked there. Very passionate about their sports, but it was hard to get up for a sport that is so different for them.
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.
I think it is pretty commonly said about most countries that "the people out in the provinces are really nice, but the people in [largest and/or capital city] are dicks."
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: spuwho on October 27, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
When I worked in London, the British press didnt have very high opinions of the US.
When we hosted a press conference at 7:30AM I never heard so much whining in my entire life.
We provided coffee and tea due to the early meet. They all complained about how the US is so "McDonalds 24x7" about everything and why cant we be "normal".
I just ignored it, but the attitude persisted throughout.
The regular Brits were awesome. Very nice people who went out of their way to make us welcome while we worked there. Very passionate about their sports, but it was hard to get up for a sport that is so different for them.
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.
Ha ha! I loved hearing all that stuff when I lived over there. After I would get an earful about how ignorant, fat and arrogant us Americans are I would always say, "Ok well where do you hide all your good looking women?"
It's always good fun going back and forth with the Brits. In case anyone is wondering, they hide them in Brighton, which is kind of ironic because I believe it is the gay capital of the UK.
Too funny!
We all have our flaws. I saw some blatant racism while commuting on the Tube, but I dont hold it against the whole country.
Its a great place. NFL will come around eventually.
We won't lose our team to London but we may very well lose Shad to them.
Quote from: finehoe on October 27, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
I think it is pretty commonly said about most countries that "the people out in the provinces are really nice, but the people in [largest and/or capital city] are dicks."
Clearly, you've never been to Basildon.
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.
I'm not arguing with you, but that "All of America being ignorant about the rest of the World"sentiment is such BS; If anything the US bends over backwards too much to be multicultural, like Obama giving the Islamic clock kid a trip to the White House. Many foreigners are extremely clannish (stuck with their ways, AKA ignorant of the rest of the World) and are very rude; Many don't share cordial Western courtesies (excluding the UK).The Old World had huge start before the US and for the most part, the US blew that part of the world away (financially, philosophically, influentially etc etc). Many of the jealous countrymen abroad are just sippin on haterade, that's all.
Quote from: I-10east on October 27, 2015, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.
I'm not arguing with you, but that "All of America being ignorant about the rest of the World"sentiment is such BS; If anything the US bends over backwards too much to be multicultural, like Obama giving the Islamic clock kid a trip to the White House. Many foreigners are extremely clannish (stuck with their ways, AKA ignorant of the rest of the World) and are very rude; Many don't share cordial Western courtesies (excluding the UK).The Old World had huge start before the US and for the most part, the US blew that part of the world away (financially, philosophically, influentially etc etc). Many of the jealous countrymen abroad are just sippin on haterade, that's all.
I-10 - I think the opinion is a stereotype and it is recognized as such. Of course, all Americans are not ignorant of the rest of the world. But a lot of Americans are. And there's a joke that war is the American way of learning geography.
I don't follow what you mean in the rest of your post. Obama and the clock kid have nothing to do with Americans not being able to locate Canada on a map.
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 27, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.
That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.
Quote from: Adam White on October 28, 2015, 02:47:06 AM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 27, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.
That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.
You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 28, 2015, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: Adam White on October 28, 2015, 02:47:06 AM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 27, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.
That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.
You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.
Well, my original point was that it didn't see feasible for PL teams to play matches in Jax when NFL teams are playing in London. In fact, the original comment mentioned making a deal with Spurs. Spurs have played in Europe for 9 of the last 10 seasons. They have also made into the later rounds (or finals) of either the FA cup or League cup during those years. While there are no guarantees in life, it's very likely that Spurs will continue to play mid-week football for the foreseeable future (given that spending levels roughly equate to success and Spurs have been the fifth or sixth highest-spending PL club for quite some time now).
Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but I don't see it happening. I certainly don't see the Spurs Supporters' Trust backing such a move. And I'd be willing to bet most other clubs' supporters' groups wouldn't back it either.
Quote from: I-10east on October 27, 2015, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I tend to find the average opinion of America is fairly positive (in general), though they think of Americans as being fat, ignorant about the rest of the world and insincerely "nice" or friendly.
I'm not arguing with you, but that "All of America being ignorant about the rest of the World"sentiment is such BS; If anything the US bends over backwards too much to be multicultural, like Obama giving the Islamic clock kid a trip to the White House. Many foreigners are extremely clannish (stuck with their ways, AKA ignorant of the rest of the World) and are very rude; Many don't share cordial Western courtesies (excluding the UK).The Old World had huge start before the US and for the most part, the US blew that part of the world away (financially, philosophically, influentially etc etc). Many of the jealous countrymen abroad are just sippin on haterade, that's all.
Thank you, I-10. I was getting bored with forum discussions. I can always count on you for for drunk uncle commentary.
In case you need an interpretation of some the things you said:
- Obama invites a brown kid to the white house and that's an example of bending over backwards to be multi-cultural.
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ALL of America is not ignorant to the rest of the world but
MANY foreigners are.
- All foreigners from the UK are loving, open and cordial. Most other foreigners are hateful, rude, clannish and un-cordial.
- Cordial western courtesies do not extend to writing ignorant comments or making fallacious judgements about every other people group.
- "The US blew that part of the world away," you failed to mention that this happens in the literal sense.
I-10, what is "American" to you? Apparently, brown kids aren't included in your definition.
Quote from: Adam White on October 28, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
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Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 27, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.
That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.
You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.
Well, my original point was that it didn't see feasible for PL teams to play matches in Jax when NFL teams are playing in London. In fact, the original comment mentioned making a deal with Spurs. Spurs have played in Europe for 9 of the last 10 seasons. They have also made into the later rounds (or finals) of either the FA cup or League cup during those years. While there are no guarantees in life, it's very likely that Spurs will continue to play mid-week football for the foreseeable future (given that spending levels roughly equate to success and Spurs have been the fifth or sixth highest-spending PL club for quite some time now).
Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but I don't see it happening. I certainly don't see the Spurs Supporters' Trust backing such a move. And I'd be willing to bet most other clubs' supporters' groups wouldn't back it either.
The difference between the NFL promoting NFL in Europe, and Premier League promoting PL in the US, is that the NFL is the only game in world for its product, while the Premier League is not. If the NFL wants to see football become more popular elsewhere, the NFL has to be the driving factor. And because the NFL is a monopoly, it will reap all the potential benefits of the endeavor. All promotion of "football" means promotion of the NFL.
If the Premier League played some games in the US, it would be taking on a lot of expense and risk for something that would probably benefit other interests as much or more than the league itself. It would drum up interest in soccer generally, which could just as easily translate into support for the American leagues, for other European or South American teams, etc. The Premier League can promote both soccer and itself in the US in less risky ways.
That said, I think individual teams may see the benefit of it, whether for full games or for friendlies. Khan did bring Fulham to Jacksonville for a friendly last year (and yes I know they're not in the Premier League anymore).
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Quote from: Adam White on October 28, 2015, 02:47:06 AM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 27, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Adam White on October 27, 2015, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: jph on October 27, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on October 26, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
The NFL and Kahn should be making a deal with the Premier League and Tottenham to have Premier League matches played in Jacksonville while the Jags are in London. The stadium would be packed with soccer fans.
I have a hard time seeing the FA approve PL matches played outside the country. And why would they take place in Jacksonville even if they did? Every big PL team is doing North American tours these days but I don't see any of them in or near Jax.
It's too far anyway. There is no 'bye' week and depending on the scheduling of the matches, there exists a possibility one or both of the teams involved would have a match in mid-week before or after the Premier League fixture in Jacksonville. I don't see any club being able to accomodate playing in, say, Russia on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and playing in Jacksonville on a Saturday or Sunday on either side of that.
That said, I don't think the FA could block it if it were something the Premier League clubs really, really wanted to do.
Generally, only Champions League (PL) teams have matches during the week. NBC has a TV deal with the Premier League. So, there is a media component already in place.
That's not true at all. Europa League matched are played on Thursdays. Currently, there are still two PL teams in the Europa League. And there are also League Cup and FA Cup games played mid-week. I believe there were League Cup games last night, as a matter of fact.
You are absolutely correct. FA Cup, Europa, and Capital One Cup matches are played during the week. There are still a lot of teams that aren't playing in those matches right now.
Well, my original point was that it didn't see feasible for PL teams to play matches in Jax when NFL teams are playing in London. In fact, the original comment mentioned making a deal with Spurs. Spurs have played in Europe for 9 of the last 10 seasons. They have also made into the later rounds (or finals) of either the FA cup or League cup during those years. While there are no guarantees in life, it's very likely that Spurs will continue to play mid-week football for the foreseeable future (given that spending levels roughly equate to success and Spurs have been the fifth or sixth highest-spending PL club for quite some time now).
Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but I don't see it happening. I certainly don't see the Spurs Supporters' Trust backing such a move. And I'd be willing to bet most other clubs' supporters' groups wouldn't back it either.
The difference between the NFL promoting NFL in Europe, and Premier League promoting PL in the US, is that the NFL is the only game in world for its product, while the Premier League is not. If the NFL wants to see football become more popular elsewhere, the NFL has to be the driving factor. And because the NFL is a monopoly, it will reap all the potential benefits of the endeavor. All promotion of "football" means promotion of the NFL.
If the Premier League played some games in the US, it would be taking on a lot of expense and risk for something that would probably benefit other interests as much or more than the league itself. It would drum up interest in soccer generally, which could just as easily translate into support for the American leagues, for other European or South American teams, etc. The Premier League can promote both soccer and itself in the US in less risky ways.
That said, I think individual teams may see the benefit of it, whether for full games or for friendlies. Khan did bring Fulham to Jacksonville for a friendly last year (and yes I know they're not in the Premier League anymore).
I reckon they figure they can build "brand awareness" and increase their fanbase by doing stuff in the off season. It isn't worth the hassle and risk to do this stuff during the season.
Quote from: stephendare on October 27, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: RattlerGator on October 27, 2015, 03:34:45 PM
We won't lose our team to London but we may very well lose Shad to them.
your lips to gods ears.
Still got that hate (or is it envy?) for the billionaire colored boy, I see.
Nativist!
Quote from: thelakelander on October 25, 2015, 07:56:04 PM
QuoteLondon calling hasn't been a game-changer for Jacksonville's job growth.
Each time the Jaguars play overseas, a Jacksonville delegation of city and civic leaders pack their bags for a week-long trip to meet European companies on their home turf, most recently this week for the Jaguars' game against the Buffalo Bills.
The trips have gotten thousands of dollars in taxpayer support and high-profile attention from mayors the past three years. But so far, they haven't wooed any European-based company to open a new location in Jacksonville.
Full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-10-24/story/london-trips-show-few-results-time-money-spent-jacksonville-delegation
Looks like we might have some wooing the TU said we were missing. I'm sure a full article will come soon, but here are some tweets sent out by @WOKVChristy (https://twitter.com/wokvchristy) this morning:
QuoteMayor Curry and members of the Jax Chamber are getting ready to announce an international business expansion.
QuoteThis business expansion is a result from meetings when the Jags played in London last month.
QuoteMayor Curry says this expansion will create 75 jobs over the next 3 years.
QuoteResource Solutions is coming across the pond to create a global service center right here in Jax.
QuoteResource Solutions provides recruitment outsourcing services. Annual salary is more than $40K.
QuoteResource Solutions says they looked at a number of locations to open their global service center and they chose Jax.
QuoteResource Solutions: We are absolutely aware of the business links between the Jacksonville Jaguars and London.
QuoteResource Solutions say they hope to open their center by next year. They want to start hiring as soon as possible.
QuoteThey are expecting to hire 25 people at the end of Q1 next year.
Here's an article from JBJ:
QuoteLondon-based company adding 75 high-wage jobs in Jacksonville
A global firm that has a presence in 24 countries is adding 75 jobs and locating its North American service center in Jacksonville, Mayor Lenny Curry announced on Thursday.
Resource Solutions, a London-based company that specializes in recruitment, will be adding 75 jobs with a median salary of about $56,000 in Jacksonville. The deal, however, is contingent on incentives on the state and local level.
The company said that it had many options, but that the deal was finalized due to the pursuit of the mayor's office and the city's desire to see new jobs.
"We looked at a number of other locations, but what we established very quickly was the appetite of the mayor's office and the city," Janine Chidlow, managing director of EMEA, said during the press conference on Thursday.
Mayor Curry, City Council President Greg Anderson and JAX Chamber Chair-elect Audrey Moran said that the economic development trip to London was one of the reasons that the global company set its sights on Jacksonville.
"It's about building long-term relationships," Moran said.
Curry said meeting with international executives is also a way of putting Jacksonville's name out there.
"We now have folks in London who know who we are," Curry said.
Chidlow said that Resource Solutions is looking to start recruitment and adding jobs in early next year, and intends to add 25 employees by the end of the first quarter. How quickly additional employees are added will depend on the growth of the company.
The company has not yet decided where their service center will be located.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2015/11/19/london-based-company-adding-75-high-wage-jobs-in.html?ana=twt