The ship EL FARO sailed out of Jacksonville Florida on 9/29/2015 and was last heard from on 10/01/2015. That it was taking on water lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. The crew reported the ship had previously taken on water, but that all flooding had been contained. http://elfaroincident.com/el-faro-updates/coast-guard-news-update-10-02-16-0830/ Thirty Three crew members are on board 28 Americans and 5 Polish Nationals. Coast Guard crews located a life ring belonging to the missing container ship El Faro late Saturday approximately 75 miles northeast of the ship's last know position. http://elfaroincident.com/el-faro-updates/coast-guard-news-release-update-10-03-15-2030/ Here is the web site to get the latest info on the missing ship EL FARO. http://elfaroincident.com/
Jacksonville, FL (October 4, 2015) – At 12:00 EST Tim Nolan, President of TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico issued the following statement regarding ongoing efforts to locate and communicate with the El Faro and her crew.
"This morning TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico's second ship, the El Yunque, and a contracted tugboat reached the area between the last known vicinity of the El Faro and the location that the Coast Guard recovered a life ring yesterday and carried out a visual survey.
The two vessels discovered a container, which appears to be from the El Faro, and observed what appears to be an oil sheen.
At this time there has been no sighting of the El Faro or any life boats.
TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico and the Coast Guard remain focused on the continuing search for the crew. The contracted tugs as well as other vessels transiting the area are also keeping a lookout for any sign of the ship.
Our thoughts and prayers remain with the 33 individuals aboard the ship and their families. They are our number one priority."
The dedicated media information line is (866.890.6763) and the incident website is www.ElFaroIncident.com. TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico continues to work closely with the Coast Guard and all activated resources in the search and will make timely, accurate updates via the website and phone line as they are available.
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866.890.6763
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Coast Guard News Release Update: 10-03-15 20:30
Posted on October 3, 2015 by Emily Reiter
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MIAMI — Coast Guard crews located a life ring belonging to the missing container ship El Faro late Saturday approximately 75 miles northeast of the ship's last know position.
The El Faro, a 790-foot roll on, roll off, cargo ship, departed Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 29, en route to San Juan.
A Coast Guard HC-130 search and rescue crew from Air Station Clearwater, Florida, spotted the life ring 120 nautical miles northeast of Crooked Island, Bahamas. A Coast Guard MH-60 helicopter crew recovered the life ring and confirmed it belonged to the missing ship El Faro.
Search and rescue crews have searched more than 30,000 square-miles since Thursday.
Sea conditions in the search area today have been reported to be 20 to 40-feet with winds in excess to 100 knots. Visibility for search and rescue flying between 500 and 1,000 feet has been reported to be less than one nautical mile at times.
Posted in El Faro Updates
TOTE Media Release: 10-3-15 20:25 EST
Posted on October 3, 2015 by Emily Reiter
Statement from TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico Regarding the El Faro
Jacksonville, FL (October 3, 2015 – 8:15 pm EST) – Based on new information TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico received from the US Coast Guard, Tim Nolan shared the following update with families gathered at the Seafarers International Union Hall in Jacksonville, FL earlier this evening.
"Earlier today, the Coast Guard confirmed that they located a life ring floating at sea which was identified as belonging to the EL Faro. A HC130 plane spotted the ring and a H60 helicopter confirmed it was able to retrieve the ring and the ring was stenciled with markings from the El Faro.
While this reflects that the ship was caught in rough seas and extreme weather, it is in no way indicative of the ship's fate. In fact, it helps confirm the El Faro's possible location and helps the USCG confirm the search areas. Small items such as life rings and life jackets are lost at sea frequently, particularly in rough weather.
The US Coast Guard has been working tirelessly, allocating numerous air and surface assets to aid in the search. They will be announcing search plans for Sunday in due course."
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866.890.6763
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TOTE Media Release: 10-03-15 12:15EST
Posted on October 3, 2015 by Emily Reiter
Jacksonville, FL (October 3, 2015) – Tim Nolan, President of TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico, issued the following statement regarding ongoing efforts to locate and communicate with the El Faro and her crew.
"TOTE Maritime continues to work closely with the US Coast Guard and all available resources to locate and establish communication with the El Faro.
As noted in a recent statement from the Coast Guard, search and rescue crews began first light search efforts Saturday with a HC-130 Hercules fixed-wing aircraft from Coast Guard Air Station Clearwater, Florida. Additional resources are being deployed throughout the day and we will provide updates as we gather information from these efforts.
In addition to a dedicated media information line listed above (866.890.6763) an informational website has been activated for media and interested parties at www.ElFaroIncident.com. Our team continues work closely with the US Coast Guard and all resources activated in the search and will make timely, accurate updates via the website and phone line as they are available."
Posted in El Faro Updates, Uncategorized
Coast Guard News Release Update: 10-03-15 11:30EST
Posted on October 3, 2015 by Emily Reiter
MIAMI — The Coast Guard aircrews resumed the search for a missing container ship with 33 crewmembers aboard near Crooked Island, Bahamas.
The El Faro, a 790-foot roll on, roll off, cargo ship, departed Jacksonville, Florida, Sept. 29, en route to San Juan, Puerto Rico. At approximately 7:30 a.m. Thursday, watchstanders at the Coast Guard Atlantic Area command center in Portsmouth, Virginia, received an Inmarsat satellite notification stating the El Faro was beset by Hurricane Joaquin, had lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. The crew reported the ship had previously taken on water, but that all flooding had been contained. The El Faro has not been heard from for more than 48 hours.
Coast Guard search and rescue crews resumed search efforts early Saturday with a HC-130 Hercules fixed-wing aircraft from Coast Guard Air Station Clearwater, Florida.
Coast Guard search crews covered more than 850 square nautical miles Friday in the search for the El Faro crew but hurricane force winds and 20 to 30-foot swells hampered search efforts.
Photos of USCG Command Center available on USCG News Feed
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El Faro Update: 10-03-15 07:00AM EST
Posted on October 3, 2015 by Emily Reiter
SEARCH OPERATIONS RESUMED AT DAYBREAK
Coast Guard search operations were suspended overnight and resumed at first light this morning.
Coast Guard assets deployed include:
Three C130 aircraft
USCG Helo helicopter
Navy P-8 aircraft
The USCG Cutter Northland, USCG Cutter Resolute, Navy ship and three commercial tugs are enroute to the search location as well
We remain hopeful and will share any updates as they become available. Family members are encouraged to call the Family Resource Line for updates. Media inquiries should be directed to the Media Hotline.
Posted in El Faro Updates
Coast Guard News Release Update: 10.02.15
Posted on October 2, 2015 by Emily Reiter
MIAMI — The Coast Guard continues to search for a missing container ship with 33 crewmembers aboard reported to be caught in Hurricane Joaquin, near Crooked Island, Bahamas.
The crew consists of 28 U.S. citizens and five Polish nationals.
Coast Guard search crews have covered approximately 850 square nautical miles in the search for the El Faro crew.
Coast Guard assets involved in Fridays search include:
Coast Guard Cutter Northland.
HC-130 Hercules airplanes from Coast Guard Air Station Clearwater, Florida.
MH-60 Jayhawk rescue helicopter crew forward deployed in Great Inagua, Bahamas.
The El Faro, a 735-foot ro-ro cargo ship, was en route to San Juan, Puerto Rico, from Jacksonville, Florida. At approximately 7:30 a.m. Thursday, watchstanders at the Coast Guard Atlantic Area command center in Portsmouth, Virginia, received an Inmarsat satellite notification stating the El Faro was beset by Hurricane Joaquin, had lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. The crew reported the ship had previously taken on water, but that all flooding had been contained.
Watchstanders at the Coast Guard 7th District command center in Miami launched an HC-130 aircrew out of Clearwater, Florida, to search for the El Faro. At this time Coast Guard watchstanders and rescue crews have been unable to reestablish communications with the El Faro crew.
Two Hurricane Hunter aircrews attempted to locate and reestablish communications with the El Faro unsuccessfully Friday. Coast Guard crews have temporarily suspended their search for friday at sundown but will continue searching at first light Saturday morning.
Posted in El Faro Updates
TOTE Media Release: 10-02-15 13:00 EST
Posted on October 2, 2015 by TOTE Communications
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Media Contact:
866.890.6763
Statement from TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico Regarding the Current Situation with El Faro
Jacksonville, FL (October 2, 2015) – Tim Nolan, President of TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico issued the following statement regarding the current situation with the El Faro.
"On September 29, the El Faro, one of TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico's two ships departed Jacksonville en-route to San Juan Puerto Rico. At the time of the El Faro's departure, the vessel's officers and crew were monitoring what was then Tropical Storm Joaquin. As of 720am EST on Thursday October 1, TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico lost all communication with the El Faro. The US Coast Guard was immediately notified and since then we have been unable to reestablish communication. There are a number of possible reasons for the loss of communications among them the increasing severity of Hurricane Joaquin.
TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico's primary concern is for the safety and well-being of the 33 individuals on board. We are working to ensure clear and frequent communications with their families and loved ones as we learn more.
We have reached out to the families of those impacted and have established open lines of communication to provide them with timely updates. Our thoughts and prayers are with the individuals and their families.
TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico is working closely with the US Coast Guard and all available resources to establish communication by whatever means possible."
Posted in El Faro Updates
Coast Guard News Release: 10-02-15 08:30
Posted on October 2, 2015 by TOTE Communications
COAST GUARD SEARCHING FOR CONTAINER SHIP CAUGHT IN
HURRICANE JOAQUIN
MIAMI – Coast Guard search and rescue crews are searching for a container ship with 33 crewmembers aboard reported to be caught in Hurricane Joaquin, near Crooked Island, Bahamas.
The El Faro, a 735-foot ro-ro cargo ship, was en route to San Juan, Puerto Rico, from Jacksonville, Florida. At approximately 7:30 a.m. Thursday, watchstanders at the Coast Guard Atlantic Area command center in Portsmouth, Virginia, received an Inmarsat satellite notification stating the El Faro was beset by Hurricane Joaquin, had lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. The crew reported the ship had previously taken on water, but that all flooding had been contained. Watchstanders at the Coast Guard 7th District command center in Miami launched an HC-130 aircrew out of Clearwater, Florida, to search for the El Faro. At this time Coast Guard watchstanders and rescue crews have been unable to reestablish communications with the El Faro crew.
Two Air Force C-130 Hurricane Hunter aircrews attempted to locate and reestablish communications with the El Faro unsuccessfully Thursday. Coast Guard crews remain on scene and will continue search efforts Friday by both air and sea.
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So tragic. :(
The USCG has just notified us that they have recovered a body from the sunken container ship.
QuoteTies to Jacksonville
Phil Greene, the president of TOTE, told CNN affiliate WFOX/WSVN that most of the ship's crew members had ties to the Jacksonville area, but it has not released any of their names to the media.
Greene said his focus is on their families, whom he says he's been "upfront" with throughout the ordeal.
CNN affiliate WGME in Portland, Maine, said that at least four of the missing Americans, including El Faro's captain, are from Maine, and that two of them not only graduated from the same high school, but from the same college; Maine Maritime Academy.
CNN reached out to Maine Maritime Academy on Sunday night but did not immediately hear back.
Joaquin disrupts routine voyage
El Faro set out Tuesday on what should have been a routine voyage from Jacksonville, Florida, to Puerto Rico.
But then, Joaquin barreled into the area, growing in strength as it came.
Though family members told WFOX/WSVN that they questioned why the ship sailed into what was then a tropical storm, Greene told the station that the boat's captain felt the conditions were favorable and "was very confident the ship was doing well, the crew was quite up to date."
The mother of one of the missing crew members told WGME that she did not blame the captain.
"The blame that has to be done is on the hurricane, not the captain," she said. "The captain is looking out for his crew."
It is tragic....I think most of us have the same question: Why was the ship taking a path directly through a cat 4 hurricane?
Maybe they didn't think it would intensify so rapidly.
It's a common misconception that large ships should stay in port during a hurricane. It is a certain way to have your ship/investment bashed to pieces on the wharf, or even carried a mile or so inland and deposited high and dry. Big ships usually opt to ride it out pointing the bow into the waves on the high seas.
Y'all will recall the tracks that said Joaquin might strike Jacksonville?
At the time they sailed, the storm was merely another tropical storm, such as we've seen all this season. A tropical storm headed M/L toward Jacksonville at the time, means the decision to sail wasn't ill informed, merely a very tragic twist of fate.
At some point the mechanical's broke down and they lost power meaning they could no longer steer directly into those 40 foot seas. Once she turned about and those waves started hitting her sides, she was in some serious peril. They said they had taken on water and were listing (leaning) 15 degrees, then came back that they had restored power... Apparently that was a temporary situation and once she rolled to the side again, listing and heavy, she most likely rolled over meaning its unlikely anyone got off alive.
Our hearts and prayers go out to our neighbors, families and friends, this is indeed a very sad incident.
That is terrible. I suppose once they saw the storm was intensifying it was too late to change course. I was hoping for the best on this one...
#Authorities said 29 Americans and four Polish crew members were on board." http://www.news4jax.com/news/coast-guard-to-brief-monday-on-el-faro/35656756 and as the day moves forward we will find out how many of these Americans lived right here in the Jacksonville area. :'(
Pretty sad. I know someone who was on that ship. Hopefully, they'll find some survivors soon. Here's another article in the UK's Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259040/Family-members-crew-board-El-Faro-demand-know-vessel-set-sail-Hurricane-Joaquin.html
An awful story. Hopefully the rescue mission turns up some survivors.
Awful story. Two tragic and unfortunate events that couldn't have been predicted when they set out . . . storm intensifies and ship loses power. Terrible news.
This is so sad. Actually made the news here in Alaska.
I think I read somewhere yesterday that if the ship has sunk with all on board that it would be the worst maritime disaster to hit American shipping in 60 years.
"to those in peril on the sea!"
The mysterious loss of the SS Poet, November 1980:
http://98.139.236.92/search/srpcache?p=%22the+poet%22+fall+1980+maritime+vessel+lost+at+sea&hsimp=yhs-002&hspart=mozilla&fr=yhs-mozilla-002&ei=UTF-8&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=%22the+poet%22+fall+1980+maritime+vessel+lost+at+sea&d=4535263644091635&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=s61J4HN_cZcOZiAPgxJYomy4D8MkuEzO&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=4g9Z5rQG7vNnSp7F4CqY2g--
Updated thread title is inaccurate. The Coast Guard discovered a body, but they did not recover it.
CEO: El Faro responsibility ends with me
TOTE President, CEO said missing cargo ship search continues http://www.news4jax.com/news/ceo-el-faro-responsibility-ends-with-me/35674354 Here is something one doesn't see a lot a CEO of a company. http://www.news4jax.com/president-of-tote-speaks-about-el-faro/35675624 My heart still hurts today for all of these families of the missing crew members. :(
Quote from: Josh on October 06, 2015, 07:02:48 AM
Updated thread title is inaccurate. The Coast Guard discovered a body, but they did not recover it.
This is per the first news release.
Quote from: Ocklawaha on October 06, 2015, 09:20:02 AM
Quote from: Josh on October 06, 2015, 07:02:48 AM
Updated thread title is inaccurate. The Coast Guard discovered a body, but they did not recover it.
This is per the first news release.
Ok. This official release from the CG only states that a deceased person was "located," not recovered.
http://d7.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/2607894/
Commenters on other forums following the story, and that attended the actual press conferences stated the CG actually referred to the discovery as "human remains."
I started the thread I didn't change the thread. Let it go for the media gets things wrong all the time. I posted that their was 29 Americans and 4 Polish crew members after channel 4 said so then they changed their minds. I understand why the USCG didn't pick up the body. But i hope someone can. If someone can find the body again. :(
I watched the news conference last night and thought that strange too, the guy didn't outright say they left it there but you could tell that's what happened. Maybe they didn't believe this body was related to the incident?
I'm sure they left the body so they could save time looking for survivors. It's looking very bleak, though.
Quote from: acme54321 on October 06, 2015, 10:57:57 AM
I watched the news conference last night and thought that strange too, the guy didn't outright say they left it there but you could tell that's what happened. Maybe they didn't believe this body was related to the incident?
The body was in one of the ship's survivor suits.
When the U.S. Coast Guard found, and then left, a body believed to be from the the lost SS El Faro, many may have been confused. Leaving the body means almost certainly leaving it forever and the absence of real closure for a family. It almost feels... cruel. The harsh reality is that bringing the body to shore would have been even more so.
"Our focus is on survivors. That's our mission," said Captain Mark Fedor in a press conference held earlier today. Fedor was talking about the need to move on quickly to other reported targets that may be lost if delays occur. Nothing can be done for the dead, and trying may mean the death of others. It's an awful decision to have to make.
A Different Kind of Search Now
Leaving the body behind underscores what separates the El Faro search from the average rescue mission: the 32 others that they still hope to find.
Finding a single body in a survival suit means the Coast Guard has to assume that 32 people are somewhere in the open water and spread out over hundreds of square miles and getting farther apart every hour. The El Faro case has gone from a search for a single big thing to 32 very small things. This isn't a needle in a haystack. This is 32 needles in an ever-growing hay field. This search has become more complex than any in recent memory.
Though all are hoping that survivors made it to the other life boat or into a raft, until they find a raft or another life boat those searching will not assume so, and will be in what can only be described as a controlled mad scramble.
They will race the clock and the setting sun chasing targets and reports of everything that looks like it could be... anything. A small orange flash will become a possible survivor in an immersion suit and the nearest helicopter or boat will be sent to investigate, verify the target, and move on to the next target. Anything white will become a possible survivor not in an immersion suit. Chase – verify – repeat; and they can't lose hope, and it's life and death, and all of them will hate it if they have to head back to base empty.
They will do this, no matter how many survivors or bodies they find, unless they find all of them, until the data tells them that survival in the conditions of the search area are impossible. That's when Fedor will have to call the search. I've never met him but I know he hates that part of his job the most. All in his position do.
(Another unspoken harsh reality of search and rescue is that those men and women flying the last search pattern will know they are. They take it personally.)
How Long They Search
It was little more than two months ago when these same search crews called off their seven-day search for two missing teenagers. The El Faro was lost farther south in water perhaps slightly warmer. And the crew had access to survival suits.
There is a lot of data that feeds the Coast Guard's tool – the Probability of Survival Detection Aid (PSDA) – used to predict survival time. They factor in air temp, water temp, sea state, humidity, etc., and also include details about the victims. They use age and weight and sex and what they were wearing, also what gear they have on. Assuming – as they must – that all survivors made it off the El Faro in an immersion suit, this massive search for 32 still-missing crew could last a very long time indeed.
Leaving the body behind was a necessary bad thing done for the good of the others who may still be alive. There are 32 of them and they are out there somewhere and the clock is running. It's a harsh reality to take in and I'm sure those men and women out there searching wish they didn't have to do it, but it's the kind of decision that sometimes has to be made. Let's hope, along with them, that they won't have to make it again. https://gcaptain.com/the_32_others/?utm_source=gCaptain+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=f2b4702779-Mailchimp_RSS_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_f50174ef03-f2b4702779-146542273#.VhRBBiuSX0c
My question is a simple one on this tragedy......why not use drones to cover more space and then with planes available, send the planes and copters to the area that the drone finds people/debris? The field is large and getting larger by the hour, can 4 planes and a cutter and 3 tug boats hope to cover it all?
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 07, 2015, 08:30:47 AM
My question is a simple one on this tragedy......why not use drones to cover more space and then with planes available, send the planes and copters to the area that the drone finds people/debris? The field is large and getting larger by the hour, can 4 planes and a cutter and 3 tug boats hope to cover it all?
The sad facts are during a hurricane when the El Faro sank a lot of the crew may have gone down with her. The USCG wasn't able to start the search ASAP. And it's not like they haven't done this before. The next part is the hardest calling off the search for life altogether.
I read that the depth where they believe the ship went down is 15000ft which will also hamper and investigation into what exactly happened.
Quote from: acme54321 on October 07, 2015, 10:30:28 AM
I read that the depth where they believe the ship went down is 15000ft which will also hamper and investigation into what exactly happened.
True but how deep was the Titanic when Americans found it?
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on October 07, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on October 07, 2015, 10:30:28 AM
I read that the depth where they believe the ship went down is 15000ft which will also hamper and investigation into what exactly happened.
True but how deep was the Titanic when Americans found it?
12k feet. And it took them over 70 years to find it.
Updated: 4:01 p.m. Wednesday, Oct. 7, 2015 | Posted: 12:59 p.m. Wednesday, Oct. 7, 2015
Coast Guard to suspend search for El Faro crew, no survivors
By Stephanie Brown and Rich Jones
Jacksonville, Fl —
Calling it a "painful" decision, the Coast Guard is suspending its search for the 33 member crew of the El Faro container ship at sunset tonight.
One body was found in a survival suit over the course of their search, but there were no other signs of the others who were on board. One life boat was recovered but badly damaged, while the second one was never located. The Coast Guard says they believe if the second life boat was on the water, they would have found it.
The decision to suspend the search was first communicated to families during a meeting today at the Seafarers International Union. WOKV confirmed the decision with families shortly after that meeting.
The families of the crew members tell us they're mad and frustrated that the search is ending. They believe there should still be hope, even though the NTSB now says there were no survivors.
The vessel is believed to have sunk last week when it got caught in Hurricane Joaquin. While Joaquin was a Tropical Storm when the heavily loaded container ship left Jacksonville, it was a Category 4 Hurricane when it met the ship.
The NTSB says its investigation is just beginning, vowing to cover every aspect of what happened in order to figure out what went wrong and how to prevent that in the future. A go-team is expected to be in Jacksonville for 7-10 days and will not draw a conclusion on the cause of this sinking while they are in town, we're told that determination could take about a year.
This is a developing story that will be updated through the day. http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/families-el-faro-crew-say-coast-guard-will-suspend/nnxPM/
Crew of the SS El Faro as provided by Tote Maritime via the U.S. Coast Guard:
Louis Champa, Palm Coast, Florida
Roosevelt Clark, Jacksonville, Florida
Sylvester Crawford Jr., Lawrenceville, Georgia
Michael Davidson, Windham, Maine
Brookie Davis, Jacksonville, Florida
Keith Griffin, Fort Myers, Florida
Frank Hamm, Jacksonville, Florida
Joe Hargrove, Orange Park, Florida
Carey Hatch, Jacksonville, Florida
Michael Holland, North Wilton, Maine
Jack Jackson, Jacksonville, Florida
Jackie Jones, Jr., Jacksonville, Florida
Lonnie Jordan, Jacksonville, Florida
Piotr Krause, Poland
Mitchell Kuflik, Brooklyn, New York
Roan Lightfoot, Jacksonville Beach, Florida
Jeffrey Mathias, Kingston, Massachusetts
Dylan Meklin, Rockland, Maine
Marcin Nita, Poland
Jan Podgorski, Poland
James Porter, Jacksonville, Florida
Richard Pusatere, Virginia Beach, Virginia
Theodore Quammie, Jacksonville, Florida
Danielle Randolph, Rockland, Massachusetts
Jeremie Riehm, Camden, Delaware
Lashawn Rivera, Jacksonville, Florida
Howard Schoenly, Cape Coral, Florida
Steven Shultz, Roan Mountain, Tennessee
German Solar-Cortes, Orlando, Florida
Anthony Thomas, Jacksonville, Florida
Andrzej Truszkowski, Poland
Mariette Wright, St. Augustine, Florida
Rafal Zdobych, Poland
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on October 07, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on October 07, 2015, 10:30:28 AM
I read that the depth where they believe the ship went down is 15000ft which will also hamper and investigation into what exactly happened.
True but how deep was the Titanic when Americans found it?
I never said it wouldn't be found.... They have a good idea of where it went down.
Quote from: acme54321 on October 07, 2015, 11:28:50 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on October 07, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on October 07, 2015, 10:30:28 AM
I read that the depth where they believe the ship went down is 15000ft which will also hamper and investigation into what exactly happened.
True but how deep was the Titanic when Americans found it?
I never said it wouldn't be found.... They have a good idea of where it went down.
I never said you did I asked a question on how deep was the Titanic. ::)
Time for a title update.
The NTSB is reporting the voyage data recorder has been located.
NTSB has released the transcripts.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/ntsb-to-release-docket-in-el-faro-investigation_
http://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/do...116&mkey=92109