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Community => Transportation, Mass Transit & Infrastructure => Topic started by: Metro Jacksonville on September 15, 2015, 03:00:03 AM

Title: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on September 15, 2015, 03:00:03 AM
Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Neighborhoods/Murray-Hill-June-2010/i-dNZ4vm8/0/L/P1360952-L.jpg)



Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-sep-retrofitting-murray-hills-edgewood-avenue
Title: Re: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: bencrix on September 15, 2015, 07:34:04 AM
Great article Ennis.

Note that Coral Gables is undertaking a streetscaping make over of Miracle Mile. Down there it is not considered bike/ped friendly enough. Parking will be parallel and sidewalks will be expanded. Perhaps another trend for MH to follow in time?

I also think the connection btw. Miracle Mile and Coral Way is important. How much of a drag is the poor connection btw. Avondale and MH along Edgewood?
Title: Re: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: tufsu1 on September 15, 2015, 07:45:14 AM
^ I learned last week that some folks wanted to add bicycle facilities to Miracle Mile...but there was quite an uproar and the City squashed the idea
Title: Re: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: thelakelander on September 15, 2015, 07:58:12 AM
One asset Miracle Mile and Coral Way have is South Florida's street grid. A cyclist can run parallel down a less traveled street, just about the entire way through town.
Title: Re: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: Sentient on September 15, 2015, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on September 15, 2015, 07:58:12 AM
One asset Miracle Mile and Coral Way have is South Florida's street grid. A cyclist can run parallel down a less traveled street, just about the entire way through town.

1. The area has abundant multi level parking facilities, private and municipal, all around. Usually a block off of Coral Way.  You have to accommodate for cars to get traffic in spread out cities.

2. They are not so obsessed with adaptive reuse of poorly maintained, historically insignificant 70 year old 1 story stores, lot's of knock down and new construction mixed in.

3. Note the prevalence of national tenants (Hooters, CVS, Boston Market, Marshalls, LA Fitness, etc. and the Miracle Mile is essentially SJTC) which provides the credit assurances that developers/landlords seek.



The streetscape is the frosting on an already tasty cake.
Title: Re: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: thelakelander on September 15, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
Most of the national tenants have popped up on the scene in recent years. The Coral Way landscaping dates back to 1929. So, it was around before there was a cake. You could argue, it along with the population density and a form-based land use policy, serves as the oven that bakes the cake. For Edgewood, it serves as a good visual example of how mature landscaping can radically change the feel of a 100' wide linear neighborhood commercial strip.



Title: Re: Retrofitting Murray Hill's Edgewood Avenue
Post by: Sentient on September 15, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on September 15, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
Most of the national tenants have popped up on the scene in recent years. The Coral Way landscaping dates back to 1929. So, it was around before there was a cake. You could argue, it along with the population density and a form-based land use policy, serves as the oven that bakes the cake. For Edgewood, it serves as a good visual example of how mature landscaping can radically change the feel of a 100' wide linear neighborhood commercial strip.


from the 2003 plan:

"The Vision for Coral Way...

A place that provides a mix of living, working, shopping, and entertainment in a historic and tropical atmosphere.

A place that is active, lively, and embracing of an urban lifestyle that reinforces Miami's multi-cultural characteristics and
complements the unique look created by the existing tree canopy.

An urban corridor which combines a variety of building heights, shapes and architectural styles, that has land uses geared to the pedestrians, that encourages window shopping, outdoor cafes, restaurants, human interaction along wide sidewalks, plazas, open spaces, balconies and arcades.

An urban corridor that connects Downtown Miami/ Brickell with Coral Gables and West Miami-Dade County, and provides for adequate parking, discouraging the use of the automobile at ground floor, and discouraging its view at upper floors. A place that has attractive colors, materials, lighting, landscaping; that is safe to the public welfare.

A place that provides a variety of housing for all income and age groups, that provides residents and users with a variety
of 24 hour services, including among others: restaurants and entertainment."


Looks like nothing RAP has come out with... 

http://www.miamigov.com/planning/docs/guidelines/DG_CoralWay.pdf