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Title: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on June 17, 2008, 04:28:47 PM
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2008/06/02/daily18.html?surround=lfn

St Vincents has gotten the certificate of need passed to build a new 98 bad facility @ Brannan Field Rd and Old Jennings Rd. Just north of the Super Walmart.

Signs are up stating St Vincents is coming soon.

They are required to start construction within 18 months after the approval.

This ruling also allows Baptist the go ahead to build a facility in Fleming Island.

Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Jason on June 17, 2008, 05:00:08 PM
Damn, Baptist and St. Vincents.  I thought they were only going to allow one.

I think 98 beds is very close to the size of the Baptist South hospital before the expansion started.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: thebrokenforum on June 17, 2008, 05:04:24 PM
They need more hospitals out there badly. It's mind boggling that the area has gone so long with only Orange Park ER for emergency care.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: blizz01 on June 17, 2008, 05:27:22 PM
Where would/will a hospital fit in the Fleming Island area?
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: copperfiend on June 17, 2008, 06:42:50 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on June 17, 2008, 05:27:22 PM
Where would/will a hospital fit in the Fleming Island area?

The location is off Blanding I believe. Not too far from Oak Leaf Plantation. It's a few minutes from Fleming Island.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on June 17, 2008, 10:15:43 PM
St Vincents is building at Brannan Field and Old Jennings.

Baptist will be/supposed to be built @ US17 and Village Plantation Parkway in Fleming Island.

Orange Park Medical Center wanted/wants to build a new hospital in Green Cove Springs as well.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Planner on July 08, 2009, 09:36:35 PM
I wonder where this new hospital stands?
Anyone know?
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: reednavy on July 08, 2009, 10:02:58 PM
It is on hold because of the "recession".
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: stephenc on July 08, 2009, 10:16:48 PM
yeah, just a bunch of pine trees.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: thekillingwax on July 13, 2009, 11:58:28 PM
http://jacksonville.com/business/2009-07-13/story/appeals_court_rules_in_favor_of_st_vincents_for_clay_hospital


It was never on hold. They've been tied up in court because HCA appealed the last decision and although they say they won't, they'll probably try and appeal this on too. HCA doesn't want another hospital out there because OPMC is probably the worst one in the area and anyone who opens another facility will sap away a big chunk of their business.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on July 15, 2009, 08:32:48 AM
Quote from: thekillingwax on July 13, 2009, 11:58:28 PM
http://jacksonville.com/business/2009-07-13/story/appeals_court_rules_in_favor_of_st_vincents_for_clay_hospital


It was never on hold. They've been tied up in court because HCA appealed the last decision and although they say they won't, they'll probably try and appeal this on too. HCA doesn't want another hospital out there because OPMC is probably the worst one in the area and anyone who opens another facility will sap away a big chunk of their business.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner. OPMC is good for labor, thats about it. The ER is always packed and the wait times are sometimes just as long as Shands.

I'll be happy to see ground broken.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Lilysmom5 on May 27, 2010, 02:40:05 PM
Clay is in desperate need of another hospital. Unless u get there at 5am, you will be waiting in the ER up to around 2-3 hours just to get in the back. Even when u are "in" it still takes forever just to know what the heck is wrong with you. The express care may have helped a little, but not enough.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Mattius92 on May 27, 2010, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: Lilysmom5 on May 27, 2010, 02:40:05 PM
Clay is in desperate need of another hospital. Unless u get there at 5am, you will be waiting in the ER up to around 2-3 hours just to get in the back. Even when u are "in" it still takes forever just to know what the heck is wrong with you. The express care may have helped a little, but not enough.

I agree with you, Clay has one hospital, yet the county has over 100,000 poeple. And its not exactly the amount of poeple, its the size of the county compared to the location of the only hospital. A hospital in Middleburg, would really help Green Cove Springs, Middleburg, Fleming Island and Keystone Heights. 
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on May 27, 2010, 02:54:08 PM
Here's the latest article I can find about this:
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/05/03/story9.html?b=1272859200^3275821

QuotePart of extending care will involve St. Luke’s, which continues to grow, and its upcoming hospital in Clay County. St. Vincent’s in 2008 won final approval to build a 98-bed hospital in the county after three years of legal battles for the state’s Certificate of Need.

St. Vincent’s bought land in Middleburg at Branan Field Road to build the hospital. The first site to be built will be an ambulatory medical center on the hospital’s future campus, which will get patients accustomed to traveling there for care ahead of the hospital construction. St. Vincent’s has hired an architect to design the building, and Chisholm expects construction will be under way within 18 months.

“I want to move forward as quickly as I can with the Clay County hospital,” he said.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: urbanlibertarian on May 27, 2010, 07:23:19 PM
Why would the state of Florida want to restrict the building of hospitals?  Doesn't this artificially reduce the supply of healthcare and push costs higher (Econ 101)?
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: reednavy on May 27, 2010, 08:30:38 PM
I believe HCA wants to construct a Westside hospital and is disputing the need for St. Vincents' new hospital, leading to this delay.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: urbanlibertarian on May 27, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
Why not let anyone who wants to build a hospital do it?  Competition is good for patients.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: reednavy on May 27, 2010, 08:44:13 PM
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on May 27, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
Why not let anyone who wants to build a hospital do it?  Competition is good for patients.
Good question, for all we know there is probably some stupid law or something.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: reednavy on May 27, 2010, 08:46:34 PM
Two articles I could find:
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-11-11/story/documents_show_hca_planning_modest_hospital_on_jacksonvilles_westside

Article on the HCA proposal getting approved
http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices/13598234-1.html
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Jim on May 27, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: reednavy on May 27, 2010, 08:44:13 PM
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on May 27, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
Why not let anyone who wants to build a hospital do it?  Competition is good for patients.
Good question, for all we know there is probably some stupid law or something.

Lots of factors.   The volume of public and private money and resources tied to a hospital must be carefully weighed based on population need else the money and resources are spread too thin negatively impacting all local hospitals.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: urbanlibertarian on May 27, 2010, 08:57:53 PM
Just don't tie any public money and resources to a hospital without need and let the private money and resources go where they please.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Jim on May 27, 2010, 09:08:02 PM
I too would like to see more free market forces applied to the medical filed (hospitals included) but that's not something we can change just for this hospital.  Until then, we gotta play those rules.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: billy on May 27, 2010, 09:21:54 PM
In theory, everyone otherwise would only build facilities where paying patients live.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on May 27, 2010, 10:09:48 PM
HCA tried to block St Vincent's and Baptist.
They then countered that they wanted to build a hospital in Green Cove Springs.

In other words, HCA wanted a monopoly on care in Clay County.

What those two articles fail to mention, HCA tried to block St Vincents and Baptist in Clay long before they even announced a westside location.

All are clamoring that it would take patients and money away, but St Vincents is the one who first identified that there was a huge underserved population.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: urbanlibertarian on May 27, 2010, 10:14:28 PM
Private businesses using politicians to limit competition and make their businesses more profitable at the expense of consumers.  Crony Capitalism.  And it's practiced by both parties.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: Jason on October 28, 2010, 10:52:57 AM
From the St. Vincent's website...


(http://www.jaxhealth.com/_VitalSite/VitalSiteImageHandler.ashx?fname=%7e%2fimg%2flocation%2f20100701_SitePlan.jpg&size=loclarge)

Source: http://www.jaxhealth.com/locations/hospitals-profile.aspx?id=67&searchId=c6994056-a2e2-df11-b8f9-005056947912&sort=11&page=1&pageSize=10
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on October 28, 2010, 02:47:26 PM
Looks good to me. North is facing right on that map.

They need to get this thing built, way too much population to rely on Orange Park Medical Center.
Title: Re: St Vincents gets the green light to build a new hospital
Post by: jandar on June 24, 2011, 06:11:02 PM
They have officially broken ground on this project.
http://www.claytodayonline.com/content/3495_1.php

Quote
St. Vincent’s HealthCare CEO Moody Chisholm told an audience filled with area business executives, Clay County government officials and school board members on Thursday, June 23 that construction of the facility next to the Wal-Mart near Blanding Boulevard will have a $50 million to $70 million impact locally.

He said the project, estimated to cost $110 million to $120 million, will create 80 jobs during its construction phase and 350 more positions â€" directly and indirectly â€" once it is completed in the fall of 2013.