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Title: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: Downtown Osprey on August 26, 2015, 09:21:17 AM
Two crew members of WDBJ in Roanoke were shot and killed on LIVE television. Unreal story and extremely sad.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/virginia-shooting-wdbj/index.html

Video: http://www.weaselzippers.us/232612-shooting-in-roanoke-va-captured-live-on-morning-news-program/  (warning: extremely disturbing)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 26, 2015, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: Downtown Osprey on August 26, 2015, 09:21:17 AM
Two crew members of WDBJ in Roanoke were shot and killed on LIVE television. Unreal story and extremely sad.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/virginia-shooting-wdbj/index.html

Video: http://www.weaselzippers.us/232612-shooting-in-roanoke-va-captured-live-on-morning-news-program/  (warning: extremely disturbing)
http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/law-enforcement-investigating-incident-at-bridgewater-plaza/34923086
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: fsquid on August 26, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
what the hell?
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on August 26, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
I lived out there for four years and watched that station...unreal doesn't begin to describe it. 

And for this not to have happened in Roanoke but in someplace as peaceful and remote as Moneta...even more stunning.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: copperfiend on August 26, 2015, 11:21:45 AM
The suspected shooter is an employee of the station. The insane thing is the guy is tweeting about it as we speak and even posted a video to Twitter of the shooting that he took himself.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: CityLife on August 26, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
The video he took is circulating the internet now. I would recommend not watching it. Sickening.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: fsquid on August 26, 2015, 11:58:10 AM
I was looking at this twitter page when he uploaded the video.  I would like to unwatch it from my brain.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: copperfiend on August 26, 2015, 12:08:21 PM
He killed himself according to NBC News
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: spuwho on August 26, 2015, 12:44:57 PM
Quote from: CityLife on August 26, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
The video he took is circulating the internet now. I would recommend not watching it. Sickening.

The video is being removed across the Net apparently.  Very sad.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: Gunnar on August 26, 2015, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: copperfiend on August 26, 2015, 12:08:21 PM
He killed himself according to NBC News
Seems like he may not have succeeded - according to CNN it is not sure if he is dead or injured. Read on a German new site that he survived.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: copperfiend on August 26, 2015, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: Gunnar on August 26, 2015, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: copperfiend on August 26, 2015, 12:08:21 PM
He killed himself according to NBC News
Seems like he may not have succeeded - according to CNN it is not sure if he is dead or injured. Read on a German new site that he survived.

Yeah. Just saw that.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia
Post by: coredumped on August 26, 2015, 02:52:03 PM
I didn't click on this topic because I thought it was an old one about the Virgina Tech shooting - you might want to update the topic.

Anyway, I think being a news reporter is risky. I've heard stories of crazy stalkers and things. This is very sad.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 26, 2015, 03:32:09 PM
Here is the video and it is VERY SHOCKING. http://www.infowars.com/graphic-shocking-complete-video-shot-from-virginia-gunmans-point-of-view/ 
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: Gunnar on August 26, 2015, 04:21:28 PM
Apparently the shooter has died.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 26, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Gunnar on August 26, 2015, 04:21:28 PM
Apparently the shooter has died.
Coward but a blessing for the families involved.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: fsquid on August 26, 2015, 04:54:10 PM
looks like a payback for the Charleston murders.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: acme54321 on August 26, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: stephendare on August 26, 2015, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: fsquid on August 26, 2015, 04:54:10 PM
looks like a payback for the Charleston murders.

It only looks that way on the right wing sites.

The shooter is a cameraman for the station and used to be a reporter.

There was a twitter account that was apparently posted in suspicious timing saying that the shooter had inscribed the initials of the victims on his hollow point bullets, but no verification that it was the shooter himself who posted the tweets.

This however hasn't stopped right wing media from treating the tweets as the literal gospel truth however.

Was that not the same account that had the first person video of the shooting posted?  The guy also sent a manifesto saying the initials thing to ABC news last I read.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: fsquid on August 26, 2015, 05:35:41 PM
Quote from: stephendare on August 26, 2015, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: fsquid on August 26, 2015, 04:54:10 PM
looks like a payback for the Charleston murders.

It only looks that way on the right wing sites.

The shooter is a cameraman for the station and used to be a reporter.

There was a twitter account that was apparently posted in suspicious timing saying that the shooter had inscribed the initials of the victims on his hollow point bullets, but no verification that it was the shooter himself who posted the tweets.

This however hasn't stopped right wing media from treating the tweets as the literal gospel truth however.

I didn't know ABC News was the right wing media.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-alleged-gunman-details-grievances-suicide-notes/story?id=33336339
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: acme54321 on August 26, 2015, 05:39:18 PM
Yeah I think it'd pretty clear this was retribution for Charleston.  Either way it's clear there are sick people from all walks of life.  This guy clearly had life issues.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: I-10east on August 27, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Chicago (Obama's howntown) is a gun control city, with blacks dying at an alarming pace; Add gun control to the rest of the US = a success story, whoopee!!!
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: I-10east on August 27, 2015, 08:22:34 PM
Breitbart (which is a far right wing website) was correct, it was a racially motivated murder; Saying it wasn't is like saying Charleston wasn't. No double standards here, you can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: Adam White on August 28, 2015, 04:40:19 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 27, 2015, 08:22:34 PM
Breitbart (which is a far right wing website) was correct, it was a racially motivated murder; Saying it wasn't is like saying Charleston wasn't. No double standards here, you can't have it both ways.

It appears there may well have been a racial element to the killings and I think it would be silly or dishonest to turn a blind eye to that.

It also appears that there may have been a certain amount of personal vendetta(s) and possible mental health issues which contributed to the killings as well.

I would hope that people would be able to stop trying to draw conclusions about motivations, etc - and I include myself in this assessment - as a) we only know so much at this point - and may never really know the whole story [which is something that can be said for any shootings, not just this one] and b) it's really irrelevant in the scheme of things.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: finehoe on August 28, 2015, 07:14:38 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 27, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Add gun control to the rest of the US = a success story, whoopee!!!

Yet it works in other countries:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11930746_671165486317614_1036681546252576810_o.png)
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: acme54321 on August 28, 2015, 07:48:13 AM
Quote from: finehoe on August 28, 2015, 07:14:38 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 27, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Add gun control to the rest of the US = a success story, whoopee!!!

Yet it works in other countries:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11930746_671165486317614_1036681546252576810_o.png)

Canada doesn't have gun control...  why isn't their murder rate as high?  It's not that simple.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: I-10east on August 28, 2015, 07:50:51 AM
The USA is a different monster Finehoe. Comparisons with those much smaller countries (with most of them being far less diverse) makes for apples and oranges comparisons. Why are you going outside of the US? If US gun control was so great, it would've worked for Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 28, 2015, 08:09:09 AM
The Mental health issue is real when it comes to violence here in America. And I blame first the person committing the violence towards others and themselves. Then Blame goes to family members that just poo poo the problem & friends. That come out later to say I believe so & so was a little off? This is to late after a crime or even a suicide has happen. I would turn on a friend in a heart beat if I knew or saw issues about them being harmful to themselves or planning something against the Law. Now I have turned in someone for doing things against the law, but that is different from this subject. MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS need to be addressed NOW not after the shooting, stabbing, etc etc etc.
Title: Re: Tragedy in Virginia: Journalist and Cameraman Shot to Death 2015
Post by: finehoe on August 28, 2015, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on August 28, 2015, 07:48:13 AM
Canada doesn't have gun control...  why isn't their murder rate as high?  It's not that simple.

Oh really?

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/canada.php