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Title: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 02, 2015, 07:07:16 AM
The Florida Time Union Sunday edition front page story August 2nd 2015. Is about How long Jerome Hayes was locked up without Bail for Crimes he says he didn't commit? (589 DAYS) I don't have time right at this moment to read this article but I wanted to let the fine people of MetroJacksonville know about it if they don't get the paper.  ;)
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: Adam White on August 02, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on August 02, 2015, 07:07:16 AM
The Florida Time Union Sunday edition front page story August 2nd 2015. Is about How long Jerome Hayes was locked up without Bail for Crimes he says he didn't commit? (589 DAYS) I don't have time right at this moment to read this article but I wanted to let the fine people of MetroJacksonville know about it if they don't get the paper.  ;)

The decision of whether to lock someone up (and whether or not to allow bail) is the court's. I don't think the JSO can be blamed in this instance.
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 02, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
Quote from: Adam White on August 02, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on August 02, 2015, 07:07:16 AM
The Florida Time Union Sunday edition front page story August 2nd 2015. Is about How long Jerome Hayes was locked up without Bail for Crimes he says he didn't commit? (589 DAYS) I don't have time right at this moment to read this article but I wanted to let the fine people of MetroJacksonville know about it if they don't get the paper.  ;)

The decision of whether to lock someone up (and whether or not to allow bail) is the court's. I don't think the JSO can be blamed in this instance.
Maybe so but the JSO is the one that arrested this man saying in the FTU? "The Sheriff's office maintains it arrested the right person." Adam I have been on two jury trials one was a Drug case the other A rape case. Here in the city of Jacksonville Florida. Well I believe both defendants were in jail until there day in court. The first case the defendant was accused of buying drugs during an undercover drug buy. We the Jury found this guy Innocent. The second case was the defendant was accused of raping his ex girlfriend's daughter. We the jury found his different defendant Innocence. These cases were two years apart. And I will never forget what the Judge said on the rape case after we the jury said Innocent. The Judge said he couldn't believe we came to the verdict we did and if he wanted to he could ask each juror to come into his chamber and ask why we came to find the defendant Not Guilty! WTF! I was so ticked at this that when for the third year in a row being called to jury duty. I put my hand up when the judge asked if any of us wanted to skip being a juror I told him what I'm telling you and everybody else that the system is Screwed up! Why in the heck have I been called as a juror for the 3rd time? And why was the Judge allowed to say what he did? This Judge then said to me you will not have to sit on a jury again. And I haven't Thank God!
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: ronchamblin on August 02, 2015, 10:06:01 AM
The necessary existence of a temporary power in any governmental position ... along with a good measure of anonymity within ... as in the JSO, the jail system, state attorney, or the courts ... aligned with the presence in our local southern environment, of a facilitating and forgiving god ... all conspire to allow and obscure the abuse and absurdities in our "system of justice". The state or city employee, whether a judge, a prosecutor, a JSO officer or jailer; exercise a temporary power over anyone who happens to become the next victim in the "system of justice". 

I suspect that most, after some consideration, will agree that power in the hands of all but the most sensitive, concerned, and knowledgeable individuals, leads at least to extended indifference, but mostly to gross injustice, abuse, and suffering to those who happened to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, or perhaps have been the victim of erroneous assumptions, accusations, and lies originating from within the system of justice, or accusations from the outside, from those benefiting from the lies.   
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: Jumpinjack on August 02, 2015, 01:44:42 PM
This story is a fine piece of investigative writing by Topher Sanders. He deserves an award for it.  I found the story  compelling and shocking: 

Files in the State Attorney's office and JSO offices that didn't explain how someone with a different name, with an alibi for 2 of the crimes and identified from photos but not compared to his look-alike brother in a lineup could spend so much time in jail.

The Times-Union actually in possession of more evidence from a public records request than the Public Defenders office.

The weasel wording of Matt Shirk's quote" I can't sit here and say that 5 months was just dead (after the defendant had 4 different public defenders in 6 months) and this guy just stayed in jail and nothing happened.... Just because there's been five months and nothing filed, like I said hindsight's always 20-20."

Despite a judge's order to turn over records within 20 days to the 4th public defender to work on the case, a delay of 40 days occurred. Still some critical information was not included.

The physical lineup which had not been conducted by JSO for so long that they had to use 12 year old policies to guide them on how to do it. The two victims when confronted with the defendant and his look-alike brother could not positively identify the defendant as the criminal.
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 03, 2015, 06:29:02 AM
Day two on the Front page of The Florida Times Union 8/3/2015. Story fallout: Lawyers Clash And A lawyer joke from me. Q: Why did God make snakes just before lawyers?
A: To practice.
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: Ocklawaha on August 03, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
Don't worry, the world is safer after the feds locked up Tommy Chong for selling glass pipes! You want to read comedy, read these transcripts or watch the TV special: https://youtu.be/Nuu65RscUqc
Title: Re: 589 Days And The Sheriff Department still believes they have the right man?
Post by: The_Choose_1 on August 04, 2015, 09:45:01 AM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on August 03, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
Don't worry, the world is safer after the feds locked up Tommy Chong for selling glass pipes! You want to read comedy, read these transcripts or watch the TV special: https://youtu.be/Nuu65RscUqc
It's sad what happen to Tommy Chong. For what? Now in 2015 and several years now. Several States sell MARIJUANA LEGAL IN THAT GIVEN STATE so who really has won this war on drugs? At first I didn't want to watch this video. I changed my mind this morning and glad I did watch it. Thank for posting it Ocklawaha.  ;)