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Urban Thinking => Urban Issues => Topic started by: Metro Jacksonville on July 31, 2015, 03:00:03 AM

Title: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on July 31, 2015, 03:00:03 AM
The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville

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This 10-page public brochure does a nice job of condensing a copious amount of information into an easy to read template.  Specifically, it discusses the individual sections (8) of the Downtown Investment Authority's (DIA) Community Redevelopment Plan, outlines the initiatives designed to impact downtown over the next 10 years, and provides a conceptual master plan of how these initiatives/projects might look over that timeframe.  The brochure also discusses another important document, the Business Investment and Development (BID) strategy, which is designed as a reference guide to aid in the CRA decision-making process.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-jul-the-dias-vision-for-downtown-jacksonville
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: finehoe on July 31, 2015, 08:35:12 AM
The chart on the last page says there are currently 9,186,487 annual visitors to downtown.  Sounds a little high to me.  Any idea how that is calculated?
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: dp8541 on July 31, 2015, 08:43:56 AM
Quote from: finehoe on July 31, 2015, 08:35:12 AM
The chart on the last page says there are currently 9,186,487 annual visitors to downtown.  Sounds a little high to me.  Any idea how that is calculated?

Cars that drive over the Fuller Warren?  Lol, that seemed a little high to me as well
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: CG7 on July 31, 2015, 08:49:44 AM
The number sounds right when you consider the number of events all year long at the arena, Times Union Center, Florida Theatre, Met Park, Baseball Grounds, Everbank Field etc, plus One Spark, Jazz Fest, New years eve and other events that bring thousands of people to downtown.
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
think of it this way:

300,000 at One Spark
600,000 for Jaguars games
120,000 for ArtWalks
200,000 for Suns games
80,000 for FL/GA
60,000 for Gator Bowl
70,000 for Monster Truck Jam
150,000 for Jazz Festival

so that's 1.6 million just on a quick list of events...doesn't include any shows at the Times-Union Center or Florida Theatre, attendance at museums, the library, the Landing (the courtyard and Mavericks can be pretty crowded at times), other events at Hemming Park, etc.
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: acme54321 on July 31, 2015, 08:54:14 AM
Fuller Warren sees about ~150,000 trips a day, so 54,750,000 a year. 
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: vicupstate on July 31, 2015, 08:56:08 AM
Does anyone know how much, if any, of the TIF funding is not already being spent on existing obligations?
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: Downtown Osprey on July 31, 2015, 09:14:41 AM
It lists the Ambassador Hotel as an active on-going project?
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: jaxnyc79 on July 31, 2015, 10:06:15 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
think of it this way:

300,000 at One Spark
600,000 for Jaguars games
120,000 for ArtWalks
200,000 for Suns games
80,000 for FL/GA
60,000 for Gator Bowl
70,000 for Monster Truck Jam
150,000 for Jazz Festival

so that's 1.6 million just on a quick list of events...doesn't include any shows at the Times-Union Center or Florida Theatre, attendance at museums, the library, the Landing (the courtyard and Mavericks can be pretty crowded at times), other events at Hemming Park, etc.

are they counting the people going downtown to work everyday.
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 12:42:48 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on July 31, 2015, 08:56:08 AM
Does anyone know how much, if any, of the TIF funding is not already being spent on existing obligations?

there is very little northbank TIF money available
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on July 31, 2015, 10:06:15 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
think of it this way:

300,000 at One Spark
600,000 for Jaguars games
120,000 for ArtWalks
200,000 for Suns games
80,000 for FL/GA
60,000 for Gator Bowl
70,000 for Monster Truck Jam
150,000 for Jazz Festival

so that's 1.6 million just on a quick list of events...doesn't include any shows at the Times-Union Center or Florida Theatre, attendance at museums, the library, the Landing (the courtyard and Mavericks can be pretty crowded at times), other events at Hemming Park, etc.

are they counting the people going downtown to work everyday.

well that would be around 45,000 * 260 days a year = or nearly 12 million people...so no.

That said, they could be counting patients and visitors to the Baptist Hospital complex for example....and don't forget all the churches!
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: Sonic101 on July 31, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
I wish they could do a late night water taxi to JU for the students to get to night life, but I feel like there might be safety issues with operating that kind of boat at night  :-\
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on August 02, 2015, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Sonic101 on July 31, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
I wish they could do a late night water taxi to JU for the students to get to night life, but I feel like there might be safety issues with operating that kind of boat at night  :-\

A shuttle would be far more efficient.
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: Ocklawaha on August 05, 2015, 05:49:54 PM
...A downtown circulator? Not to wax cynical here, but isn't this a familiar code for; "You'll not see any type of TOD inducing rail in our lifetimes."
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: simms3 on August 05, 2015, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: jaxnyc79 on July 31, 2015, 10:06:15 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
think of it this way:

300,000 at One Spark
600,000 for Jaguars games
120,000 for ArtWalks
200,000 for Suns games
80,000 for FL/GA
60,000 for Gator Bowl
70,000 for Monster Truck Jam
150,000 for Jazz Festival

so that's 1.6 million just on a quick list of events...doesn't include any shows at the Times-Union Center or Florida Theatre, attendance at museums, the library, the Landing (the courtyard and Mavericks can be pretty crowded at times), other events at Hemming Park, etc.

are they counting the people going downtown to work everyday.

well that would be around 45,000 * 260 days a year = or nearly 12 million people...so no.

That said, they could be counting patients and visitors to the Baptist Hospital complex for example....and don't forget all the churches!

How many people does FBC seat?  It's got to be like an arena in there.
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: fsujax on August 05, 2015, 07:08:06 PM
It seats around 10,000.
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: Bill Hoff on August 05, 2015, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on July 31, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
think of it this way:

300,000 at One Spark
600,000 for Jaguars games
120,000 for ArtWalks
200,000 for Suns games
80,000 for FL/GA
60,000 for Gator Bowl
70,000 for Monster Truck Jam
150,000 for Jazz Festival

so that's 1.6 million just on a quick list of events...doesn't include any shows at the Times-Union Center or Florida Theatre, attendance at museums, the library, the Landing (the courtyard and Mavericks can be pretty crowded at times), other events at Hemming Park, etc.

Some versions of Downtown's boundaries conveniently include the Riverside Arts Market, as well : )
Title: Re: The DIA's Vision for Downtown Jacksonville
Post by: tufsu1 on August 05, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
^ since I-95 is the western and southern boundary, the official boundary does include RAM...so there's another 100,000+ people