It was once in a "blue moon" when Police were caught doing something Stupid now it's almost daily across America Why is this? And a good quote "Society had a crime problem. It hired cops to attack crime. Now society has a cop problem." WHY?
― Tom Robbins, Still Life with Woodpecker
Personally I think there have always been bad cops but today you just have more of them exposed because of social media and the ever present camera. Crooked cops use to just get away with things and were never found out but that just isn't really feasible these days. So it seems worse but it isn't, just more in the news cycle.
Quote from: UNFurbanist on July 30, 2015, 10:06:33 AM
Personally I think there have always been bad cops but today you just have more of them exposed because of social media and the ever present camera. Crooked cops use to just get away with things and were never found out but that just isn't really feasible these days. So it seems worse but it isn't, just more in the news cycle.
Well I'm glad social media has exposed the bad cop. I as a taxpayer of Jax/fl would gladly pay an extra two cents sales tax to have better cops on the force and remove the crooked cops in a heart beat.
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
LOL. No one is forcing the restaurant to give them free or discounted food.
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
If the owner doesn't do it i feel some cops would take their time answering some service calls like Homeless man cleaning up in bathroom? I'm not saying an officer wouldn't break the sound barrier for an armed robbery.
Quote from: acme54321 on July 30, 2015, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
LOL. No one is forcing the restaurant to give them free or discounted food.
Well then the officer should say No Thank You and this should be policy.
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
Free coffee is fine with me. But a meal is too much. And some officers get bigger meals and not just from McDonald's?
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
Free coffee is fine with me. But a meal is too much. And some officers get bigger meals and not just from McDonald's?
Regardless, they should be required to report each and every free thing they get.
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
Free coffee is fine with me. But a meal is too much. And some officers get bigger meals and not just from McDonald's?
Regardless, they should be required to report each and every free thing they get.
do you?
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
Free coffee is fine with me. But a meal is too much. And some officers get bigger meals and not just from McDonald's?
Regardless, they should be required to report each and every free thing they get.
Amen!
Quote from: fsquid on July 30, 2015, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
Free coffee is fine with me. But a meal is too much. And some officers get bigger meals and not just from McDonald's?
Regardless, they should be required to report each and every free thing they get.
do you?
I do in my job, yes. We have strict policies regarding conflict of interest and we have to be sure we also comply with the Bribery Act 2010.
Bribery Act of 2010 is a UK thing. The reason cops are offered free stuff is because business owners like the car being in their parking lot. I have no problem with it. Now if the officers are camping out there for hours at a time, that is an issue.
And it's not just cops....
Most uniformed personnel from cops to fire dept to nurses and emts and uniformed military... they all get discounts in many establishments.
I don't see a big deal. So do senior citizens... Are they supposed to declare every 15% discount from Famous Amos?
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on July 30, 2015, 06:19:33 PM
And it's not just cops....
Most uniformed personnel from cops to fire dept to nurses and emts and uniformed military... they all get discounts in many establishments.
I don't see a big deal. So do senior citizens... Are they supposed to declare every 15% discount from Famous Amos?
If you are a Public worker you should pay for your own meals. Unless like Adam White said "Regardless, they should be required to report each and every free thing they get." ;)
Quote from: fsquid on July 30, 2015, 05:41:00 PM
Bribery Act of 2010 is a UK thing. The reason cops are offered free stuff is because business owners like the car being in their parking lot. I have no problem with it. Now if the officers are camping out there for hours at a time, that is an issue.
I know it's a UK thing. You asked me if I disclose everything I receive gratis and I said yes and explained why.
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
Quote from: spuwho on July 30, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
I was told by an FBI friend he said If Police want to do a lie detector test on you tell them No because even if you pass the test they will tell you that you failed the test to get you upset.
http://www.cnet.com/news/dashcam-video-catches-off-duty-cop-threatening-to-put-hole-in-head-of-driver/#ftag=YHF65cbda0
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
It was once in a "blue moon" when Police were caught doing something Stupid now it's almost daily across America Why is this? And a good quote "Society had a crime problem. It hired cops to attack crime. Now society has a cop problem." WHY?
― Tom Robbins, Still Life with Woodpecker
You can find people making bad judgements in any profession daily.
This is not new, the level of media coverage on this particular profession is.
That said, cops deal with crap all day. When humans deal with stress all day, even with training, occasionally they may snap and do/say something they shouldn't. It's human nature.
Unless we hire Robocops, or Robo-any profession,, emotion and psyche will influence humans to make incorrect decisions in their jobs (and lives) - especially those under high stress.
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 10:53:28 PM
Quote from: spuwho on July 30, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
I was told by an FBI friend he said If Police want to do a lie detector test on you tell them No because even if you pass the test they will tell you that you failed the test to get you upset.
AFAIK, polygraph tests are inadmissable in court. As a general rule, I would refuse to answer any probing questions from the police in the absence of a lawyer. And I also wouldn't submit to questioning unless I had been arrested. If you are not arrested, you can leave.
You know something I felt better about JSO Police Officers when the NEWS MEDIA had better checks on them? But several years ago the scanners that the JSO once had at News Stations were removed. Which makes it harder to Watch the Watchmen.
Quote from: Bill Hoff on July 31, 2015, 06:37:58 AM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
It was once in a "blue moon" when Police were caught doing something Stupid now it's almost daily across America Why is this? And a good quote "Society had a crime problem. It hired cops to attack crime. Now society has a cop problem." WHY?
― Tom Robbins, Still Life with Woodpecker
You can find people making bad judgements in any profession daily.
This is not new, the level of media coverage on this particular profession is.
That said, cops deal with crap all day. When humans deal with stress all day, even with training, occasionally they may snap and do/say something they shouldn't. It's human nature.
Unless we hire Robocops, or Robo-any profession,, emotion and psyche will influence humans to make incorrect decisions in their jobs (and lives) - especially those under high stress.
I sorta agree with you here - as cops deal with criminals every day (that is their job), they tend to start seeing everyone as a potential criminal who poses a danger to them. If they are insecure and / or have a weak character, all the worse.
Next issue - all that "war" talk - war on drugs, war on crime, war on this and that... this will probably give cops the feeling that they are soldier fighting in a war with a focus of eliminating their enemies (read: everyone else) rather than being there to protect the citizens. Blame politicians who like tough sounding slogans for that one.
What makes this problem worse is the probably very basic nature of police training - could not find exact data on how long training takes in Florida but I would guess it is not much longer than the 3 months it takes in other states. If it were two to three years with supervised on the job training, I would bet that officers would be much better qualified to do their jobs plus this would weed out the inept candidates.
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
You are making a good point here - so the shop owners are essentially paying the officers to provide a supplementary service, i.e. additional protection, making their store a less likely target for criminals due to the frequent police visits.
This also in turn means that those who offer no financial incentive to the police will end up less protected - so I would agree that this constitutes a bribe, no matter how small.
Quote from: Gunnar on July 31, 2015, 08:14:56 AM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
You are making a good point here - so the shop owners are essentially paying the officers to provide a supplementary service, i.e. additional protection, making their store a less likely target for criminals due to the frequent police visits.
This also in turn means that those who offer no financial incentive to the police will end up less protected - so I would agree that this constitutes a bribe, no matter how small.
YES! :)
Quote from: Gunnar on July 31, 2015, 08:14:56 AM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
You are making a good point here - so the shop owners are essentially paying the officers to provide a supplementary service, i.e. additional protection, making their store a less likely target for criminals due to the frequent police visits.
This also in turn means that those who offer no financial incentive to the police will end up less protected - so I would agree that this constitutes a bribe, no matter how small.
I think it's also worth considering that while it's not likely to cause a police officer to intentionally act a certain way, the concern is that it could possibly cause them to compromise their objectivity unwittingly. There should be no question in anyone's mind that the practice of accepting freebies creates a conflict of interest on its face. And perhaps even more important is the possible appearance of impropriety.
That said, I don't think most cops are affected by getting the occasional free cup of coffee.
Quote from: spuwho on July 30, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
Just watched this. What a jerk that driver was. Get a grip.
Quote from: Adam White on July 31, 2015, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: Gunnar on July 31, 2015, 08:14:56 AM
Quote from: Adam White on July 30, 2015, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: camarocane on July 30, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Why do Police officers get a free Lunch? Isn't it there job to come when called at any business? I have seen with my own two open eyes Police Officers pull out a little card at McDonald's and get a free meal. This shouldn't be aloud, police officers should pay for their own meals. Unless they are off duty and working at said restaurant as paid protection. IMO!
Why shouldnt it be allowed?
If the owner doesnt want to, do you think the cops will break the owners legs or something?
A decent argument in favor of it not being allowed is that it could be viewed as a bribe. It's unethical for a police officer to take stuff for free - even if it's offered. Of course, businesses do this to ensure there are cops around. That's why a lot of convenience store give free coffee to cops - as a former 7-Eleven Field Consultant, I certainly appreciated late night visits from the police when I was stuck working a third shift.
You are making a good point here - so the shop owners are essentially paying the officers to provide a supplementary service, i.e. additional protection, making their store a less likely target for criminals due to the frequent police visits.
This also in turn means that those who offer no financial incentive to the police will end up less protected - so I would agree that this constitutes a bribe, no matter how small.
I think it's also worth considering that while it's not likely to cause a police officer to intentionally act a certain way, the concern is that it could possibly cause them to compromise their objectivity unwittingly. There should be no question in anyone's mind that the practice of accepting freebies creates a conflict of interest on its face. And perhaps even more important is the possible appearance of impropriety.
That said, I don't think most cops are affected by getting the occasional free cup of coffee.
Free cup of coffee is fine, unless that cup is from Starbucks and it would have cost $4.00? And if one cop is getting it free at a location does this also mean that any cop can have a freebie also? "32 administrative employees, 897 corrections personnel, 389 working in investigations and homeland security and more than 1,200 patrol and enforcement officers." If you add up all of these people working for the Sheriff then that free coffee sure adds up. ;)
Quote from: Bill Hoff on July 31, 2015, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: spuwho on July 30, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
Just watched this. What a jerk that driver was. Get a grip.
Maybe so but he schooled the officers in the law. I wonder what happen to him that turned himself to distrust Police? I have in the past only been pulled over by Police for illegal U Turns, speeding, and running stop signs. My last ticket for any traffic violation was for speeding almost 10 years ago. I remember the JSO Cop walking up to my car and I said Yes Sir No Sir to his Q&A I was trying to get off on a warning or less of a ticket. When the Cop said TAKE IT LIKE A MAN :o to me. I then said give me the ticket so I can go on my way. He came back to my car with that attitude that he was God like. I got the ticket and drove off. And paid the fine in One dollar Bills. Maybe one day I will tell you why I lost faith in the JSO and it wasn't because of my speeding ticket? :P
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 31, 2015, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: Bill Hoff on July 31, 2015, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: spuwho on July 30, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
Just watched this. What a jerk that driver was. Get a grip.
Maybe so but he schooled the officers in the law. I wonder what happen to him that turned himself to distrust Police? I have in the past only been pulled over by Police for illegal U Turns, speeding, and running stop signs. My last ticket for any traffic violation was for speeding almost 10 years ago. I remember the JSO Cop walking up to my car and I said Yes Sir No Sir to his Q&A I was trying to get off on a warning or less of a ticket. When the Cop said TAKE IT LIKE A MAN :o to me. I then said give me the ticket so I can go on my way. He came back to my car with that attitude that he was God like. I got the ticket and drove off. And paid the fine in One dollar Bills. Maybe one day I will tell you why I lost faith in the JSO and it wasn't because of my speeding ticket? :P
I'll be honest with you - I've never had anything but positive interactions with police officers in Jacksonville. Then again, I am a middle class white male. But I've always been cooperative and respectful and they've always seemed to appreciate it. As a general rule, if I get caught breaking a traffic law, I admit it. I've never been pulled over for doing something I didn't know I was doing.
Quote from: Adam White on July 31, 2015, 09:35:08 AM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on July 31, 2015, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: Bill Hoff on July 31, 2015, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: spuwho on July 30, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
This occurred about 60 days ago off the Arlington Expressway.
https://www.youtube.com/v/RQUAu8QnKVs
Just watched this. What a jerk that driver was. Get a grip.
Maybe so but he schooled the officers in the law. I wonder what happen to him that turned himself to distrust Police? I have in the past only been pulled over by Police for illegal U Turns, speeding, and running stop signs. My last ticket for any traffic violation was for speeding almost 10 years ago. I remember the JSO Cop walking up to my car and I said Yes Sir No Sir to his Q&A I was trying to get off on a warning or less of a ticket. When the Cop said TAKE IT LIKE A MAN :o to me. I then said give me the ticket so I can go on my way. He came back to my car with that attitude that he was God like. I got the ticket and drove off. And paid the fine in One dollar Bills. Maybe one day I will tell you why I lost faith in the JSO and it wasn't because of my speeding ticket? :P
I'll be honest with you - I've never had anything but positive interactions with police officers in Jacksonville. Then again, I am a middle class white male. But I've always been cooperative and respectful and they've always seemed to appreciate it. As a general rule, if I get caught breaking a traffic law, I admit it. I've never been pulled over for doing something I didn't know I was doing.
I'm a white guy also and like I said the last time a JSO cop pulled me over for a speeding ticket was 10 years ago. Now I have also know some good JSO cops from a SWAT member to a beat cop. So not all cops are bad. This being said I have still Lost Faith in the JSO overall. Maybe Mr Williams can shake up what needs to be done to the JSO and I can one day have Faith in the organization as a whole. :)
The fellow in the video didn't school anybody. If you follow his comment history on various anti-police sites, you will find many crazy anti-government rants, including advocating armed rebellion. Nuts.
Some places give discounted food/drink to police for the same two reasons they give it to firefighters: appreciation and the fact that they feel safer to police/JFRD is present. It would only be bribery if they expected extra and inappropriate services as a result.
Quote from: AKIRA on August 01, 2015, 01:01:41 AM
The fellow in the video didn't school anybody. If you follow his comment history on various anti-police sites, you will find many crazy anti-government rants, including advocating armed rebellion. Nuts.
Some places give discounted food/drink to police for the same two reasons they give it to firefighters: appreciation and the fact that they feel safer to police/JFRD is present. It would only be bribery if they expected extra and inappropriate services as a result.
I looked at this dudes other video's and he has issues? But in this video IMO he schooled these cops. If he didn't have a video would it have ended better or worst for him? And when it comes to free food for cops, firefighters and other people on the Public payroll I hope there is a record of it. p.s. I'm grateful for some police officers for the job they do. And the others should change their profession IMO. ;)[/color]
You are confusing letting a nut rant to his heart's content with being schooled. I would imagine that sometimes it is better in an investigation to patiently listen to a person that is so caught up in thier own hubris that they end up answering all your questions. Michale was so busy acting for his camera to create Youtube content that he gave himself away...
Quite frankly, if a woman believes she is being followed/stalked by a stranger, I would hope police would investigate, as they did.
I think it petty of you that with all the legitimate problems facing police that your flag is planted on the issue of discounted food. If thats the best you can do to point a fault, then your privilege betrays you..
Quote from: AKIRA on August 01, 2015, 03:26:59 PM
You are confusing letting a nut rant to his heart's content with being schooled. I would imagine that sometimes it is better in an investigation to patiently listen to a person that is so caught up in thier own hubris that they end up answering all your questions. Michale was so busy acting for his camera to create Youtube content that he gave himself away...
Quite frankly, if a woman believes she is being followed/stalked by a stranger, I would hope police would investigate, as they did.
I think it petty of you that with all the legitimate problems facing police that your flag is planted on the issue of discounted food. If thats the best you can do to point a fault, then your privilege betrays you..
I could truly unload on what the JSO has done to a lot of "INNOCENCE PEOPLE" all because of other people filing FALSE Police Reports. And how much money they wasted on INVESTIGATING people that didn't do ANYTHING WRONG! Is this what the JSO or any police agency should be doing ruining Innocence People's LIVES? All because someone else is EVIL and doesn't give a Damn about the "FALSIFYING A POLICE REPORT" just to scare the INNOCENCE person? So AKIRA does this betray me or YOU!
School resource officer sued for allegedly handcuffing children with ADHD
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/04/us/aclu-disabled-students-handcuffed-lawsuit/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/04/us/aclu-disabled-students-handcuffed-lawsuit/index.html)
Good thing this guy is a cop, even better that he works as a school resource officer in an elementary school.
Oh, and the "best" part:
Quote"It's good to have a positive interaction with the kids and to be a good role model and to undo any negative stereotypes of law enforcement that some of the kids may have," Sumner told the River City News.