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Title: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on June 13, 2008, 05:00:00 AM
Elements of Urbanism: Charleston

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-5193-p1100781.JPG)

Metro Jacksonville's 'Learning From Series' pays a return visit to the place where it all started two years ago.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/812
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: Jason on June 13, 2008, 09:53:50 AM
Great article Ennis, thanks for revisiting.

Just a small suggestion for the next series, would you mind posting a aerial view or map of the area to help to better show the relation of different districts?  This could be great to further your argument of the benefits of connectivity and give great examples of such.


Chareleston's population density in 1910 had to rival Manhattan!  Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: thelakelander on June 13, 2008, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Jason on June 13, 2008, 09:53:50 AM
Great article Ennis, thanks for revisiting.

Just a small suggestion for the next series, would you mind posting a aerial view or map of the area to help to better show the relation of different districts?  This could be great to further your argument of the benefits of connectivity and give great examples of such.

Sure.

QuoteChareleston's population density in 1910 had to rival Manhattan!  Amazing stuff.

It was close, although New York was a lot larger.


1910 Density numbers from selected US cities

Density/City Name/Population

54,095 - Hoboken, NJ (70,324)

18,554 - Baltimore (558,485)

16,621 - New York City  (4,766,883)

16,397 - Milwaukee (373,857)

16,316 - Boston (670,585)

15,482 - Charleston (58,833)

11,806 - Chicago (2,185,283)

12,045 - Norfolk (67,452)

10,818 - Louisville (223,928)

10,328 - Savannah (65,064)

8,966 - San Francisco (416,912)

7,125 - Memphis (131,105)

7,080 - Indianapolis (233,650)

6,454 - Nashville (110,364)

6,204 - Jacksonville (57,699)

6,025 - Atlanta (154,839)

4,243 - Seattle (237,194)

2,747 - Birmingham (132,685)
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: thelakelander on June 13, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
Here's a Downtown Charleston streetmap:

(http://www.lovingcharleston.com/images/activities/downtown-charleston-map.jpg)
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: Jason on June 13, 2008, 10:28:13 AM
Thanks Lake.

Are the DASH Shuttles just Ock's hated potato chip trucks?
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: thelakelander on June 13, 2008, 10:30:15 AM
They are Ock's PCTs.
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: Jason on June 13, 2008, 10:33:01 AM
Those lines look like they would benefit immensely by switching to heritage trolly.
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: Charleston native on June 16, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
Hey Ennis, thanks for posting some more info about my hometown. I have a correction, though. N. Charleston, while it is a retail center for the metro area, it does not have the largest mall. Charleston itself has the distinction of having the largest mall known as Citadel Mall, which is located in the section of the city known as West Ashley (west of the Ashley River).

The soccer field shot shows the city's tallest building, Dockside Condos. I hope that the new MUSC tower that you pictured will be complimented by towers as tall or taller than Dockside...according to MUSC, future phases of its campus overhaul include 2 towers, 1 reaching around 20 stories.

Notice the 2nd picture under the City Market section. Aesthetically, the market, among other major downtown streets, needs significant infrastructure improvement such as burying utility lines and increased lighting. This is one issue that Jax completely beats Chas in.
Title: Re: Elements of Urbanism: Charleston
Post by: thelakelander on June 16, 2008, 03:02:59 PM
QuoteHey Ennis, thanks for posting some more info about my hometown. I have a correction, though. N. Charleston, while it is a retail center for the metro area, it does not have the largest mall. Charleston itself has the distinction of having the largest mall known as Citadel Mall, which is located in the section of the city known as West Ashley (west of the Ashley River).

Shows how much I spend in the malls there.  For some reason, I could have sworn that Citadel was smaller than Northwoods.  Thanks for the correction.

QuoteThe soccer field shot shows the city's tallest building, Dockside Condos. I hope that the new MUSC tower that you pictured will be complimented by towers as tall or taller than Dockside...according to MUSC, future phases of its campus overhaul include 2 towers, 1 reaching around 20 stories.

MUSC has a pretty impressive campus.  Things must be going well there because it seems like they always have major construction going on in that area.