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Title: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on July 16, 2015, 12:30:02 AM
Two men brawl in Baldwin Park Publix

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Transit/Jacksonville-2030-Mobility/i-ksrr5Cs/0/L/P1340328-L.jpg)

Shopping wasn't a pleasure at this ritzy Baldwin Park Publix, in suburban Orlando, when two middle-aged men were not mature enough to keep their hands off each other.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-jul-thugs-head-to-the-suburbs (http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-jul-thugs-head-to-the-suburbs)
Title: Re: Thugs Head to the Suburbs
Post by: peestandingup on July 16, 2015, 12:31:35 AM
Are you guys serious with this shit??
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 16, 2015, 05:45:25 AM
Rofl... what he said :o
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: comncense on July 16, 2015, 06:35:49 AM
lol, how does this relate to Jacksonville?
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: brainstormer on July 16, 2015, 07:25:54 AM
I've been a forum member for awhile and I beg you, please don't turn metrojacksonville into another Buzzfeed. I would rather have more stories that focus on our community and development than this kind of crap. I've always liked metrojacksonville for it's quality and not its quantity. Stick to your original mission.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: mbwright on July 16, 2015, 07:39:46 AM
I agree.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
Lol. Don't worry about that. There are quite a few neighborhood tours, downtown comparison, development, Jax history and lifestyle stories lined up. The new urban development project & construction section is just about ready to go live as well. Stay tuned!  8)
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: KenFSU on July 16, 2015, 09:14:50 AM
MJ goes Worldstar!

Hands down, the weirdest post I've ever seen on MetroJacksonville.

Not complaining, it certainly woke me up :D
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: coredumped on July 16, 2015, 10:12:21 AM
And you won't believe what happens next!
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: jcjohnpaint on July 16, 2015, 10:32:34 AM
Ha
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: comncense on July 16, 2015, 06:35:49 AM
lol, how does this relate to Jacksonville?

One possible way it can relate to Jax....or any community in this country, is the way we generally view our inner city neighborhoods verses our suburbs.  If I mentioned there was a brawl in grocery store, most would think such an event would happen in Winn-Dixie off State & Union, moreso than Publix in Nocatee. If it were off State & Union, then there would be talk about high crime and thugs in Springfield and downtown.

Just on this forum alone, I can't count the number of threads where people have mentioned avoiding stuff like this is a reason for moving to areas like Northern St. Johns County and avoiding Northwest Jax.  We (Jax included) even go as far as to structure our public policy, placing neighborhoods we're afraid of at an economic disadvantage to newer posh areas. Reality is, if Nocatee is our suburban cream of the crop, when it comes to newer new urbanist communities, it really doesn't hold a candle to what Orlando's Baldwin Park has developed into. Nevertheless, despite the manicured lawns, low percentage of minorities, good schools, etc., you can't escape idiots.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: TheCat on July 16, 2015, 10:34:46 AM
(http://therapinsider.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/pac17.jpg)

I hate/love this show.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: mtraininjax on July 16, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
QuoteAre you guys serious with this shit??

Yeah, Alvin Brown jokes not even funny anymore......sad day when MJ is relegated to news of the weird.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: jaxjaguar on July 16, 2015, 12:54:49 PM
I think it's a stretch to say this relates to Jax or that it's relevant to Baldwin Park. Shit happens sometimes, even in "nice" places. Remember a few years ago when a woman ran over another woman in the Ponte Vedra Publix parking lot?

This story isn't worthy of being a featured piece on the front page...
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: peestandingup on July 16, 2015, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: comncense on July 16, 2015, 06:35:49 AM
lol, how does this relate to Jacksonville?

One possible way it can relate to Jax....or any community in this country, is the way we generally view our inner city neighborhoods verses our suburbs.  If I mentioned there was a brawl in grocery store, most would think such an event would happen in Winn-Dixie off State & Union, moreso than Publix in Nocatee. If it were off State & Union, then there would be talk about high crime and thugs in Springfield and downtown.

Just on this forum alone, I can't count the number of threads where people have mentioned avoiding stuff like this is a reason for moving to areas like Northern St. Johns County and avoiding Northwest Jax.  We (Jax included) even go as far as to structure our public policy, placing neighborhoods we're afraid of at an economic disadvantage to newer posh areas. Reality is, if Nocatee is our suburban cream of the crop, when it comes to newer new urbanist communities, it really doesn't hold a candle to what Orlando's Baldwin Park has developed into. Nevertheless, despite the manicured lawns, low percentage of minorities, good schools, etc., you can't escape idiots.

Lol, now that's a stretch. You managed to find some good ol boys brawling it up in a nice suburb (and had to go all the way to Orlando to do it), post it front page on an urban Jacksonville site, throw the words "thugs" in there for good measure, just to say "see you guys, happens everywhere!"??

Just..damn. :/
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
^Pretty much, lol but don't take it too serious, pee. No need to stress out over a random article on a website. Life is too short. :)
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: peestandingup on July 16, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
Oh, it takes way more than that to stress me out. :) I just don't understand the purpose of it other than some weird bizarro world agenda using an apples to oranges argument.

I also hope content like this isn't a sign of things to come here. I really enjoy the site & articles most times. ;)
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Oh, that's it?  All you had to do is just ask. I have nothing to hide.

I've been quietly testing content, how it's produced, how it's displayed, presented, etc. for months now.

I typically post general topics, regardless of whether they are directly related to Jax or not, in various forums.Here's an example:

FSU's Dalvin Cook charged with battery, indefinitely suspended
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,24811.0.html

With that said, I do post news about things happening in other cities on the front page, from time to time. Here's an example:

More Attractions Headed Florida's Way
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-mar-more-attractions-headed-floridas-way

Both of those examples were tests, just like this one.  In this particular case, I wanted to see what the response would be if posted on the front page as a "secondary" article.  So, now let me explain what a secondary article is.  We run content all the time that one could argue is not cover story material.  When we do, we may publish them in the middle of the night so the feature daily story will immediately bump it, when it goes live (typically 3am).

As I said waayyy back in this thread, we're not changing from what we already do.  Nevertheless, the response and analytical data is pretty interesting, comparing a forum post verses a front page post, both of which (in this case) took the exact same time to get up.

It's good data to know, track and understand from a backsite perspective.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: peestandingup on July 16, 2015, 05:46:53 PM
No worries, Lake. I don't think people have a problem with posting front page news stories about other happenings around Florida. But feature posting two rednecks throwing down in a Publix seems more like tabloid trash IMHO. I think most would agree.

I mean, if that's news worthy, then you could certainly fill the front page almost daily with stuff like that just from Jacksonville alone. The fact that it was two whites doing it in a nice suburb means nothing, unless of course that was the real purpose of the feature. ;)
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 06:05:40 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: I-10east on July 16, 2015, 07:16:03 PM
Where shopping is a pleasure....
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: Todd_Parker on July 16, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
I heard that this incident all started over someone leaving their shopping cart in a parking spot and not returning it to the store/corral. Any aggression resulting from this heinous act is completely understandable.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: NaldoAveKnight on July 16, 2015, 08:44:35 PM
Give these guys a break, it's summer!  I bet the editors are at Jax Beach chilling like villians!
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: Know Growth on July 16, 2015, 11:18:06 PM
Here's a good test:

















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Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: Know Growth on July 18, 2015, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 16, 2015, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: comncense on July 16, 2015, 06:35:49 AM
lol, how does this relate to Jacksonville?

One possible way it can relate to Jax....or any community in this country, is the way we generally view our inner city neighborhoods verses our suburbs.  If I mentioned there was a brawl in grocery store, most would think such an event would happen in Winn-Dixie off State & Union, moreso than Publix in Nocatee. If it were off State & Union, then there would be talk about high crime and thugs in Springfield and downtown.

Just on this forum alone, I can't count the number of threads where people have mentioned avoiding stuff like this is a reason for moving to areas like Northern St. Johns County and avoiding Northwest Jax.  We (Jax included) even go as far as to structure our public policy, placing neighborhoods we're afraid of at an economic disadvantage to newer posh areas. Reality is, if Nocatee is our suburban cream of the crop, when it comes to newer new urbanist communities, it really doesn't hold a candle to what Orlando's Baldwin Park has developed into. Nevertheless, despite the manicured lawns, low percentage of minorities, good schools, etc., you can't escape idiots.

True, bad stuff happens everywhere, but the propensity,likelyhood,number of incidence lower in select surrounding areas.Same for certain areas within Duval. Of Course.


Almost gotta giggle about coincidental "Brawl" headline two days ago- Westside Apartment complex,young people,police response,youngsters attack police - and the Police spokesman suggested nothing to see here, not worthy of reporting.

An acquaintance spoke of the subject Brawl scene neighborhood,the changes,and that if "it" moves much closer, he's outa here.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on July 18, 2015, 07:03:41 PM
Interesting. This video is now being posted by local media:

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/news/national/argument-leads-fight-publix-deli-aisle/nmzgc/
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: prahaboheme on August 07, 2015, 09:50:31 AM
First of all, this is not a "ritzy" Publix - is there such a thing?
Perhaps this is referring to some of the high real estate in BP.

And to suggest that this is in suburban Orlando is somewhat inaccurate -- Baldwin Park is about 5 miles from downtown Orlando.
There is actually a lot going on in Baldwin Park right now, new restaurants, decent infill, and a renewed sense of "place" that has made the neighborhood vibrant and self sustaining.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on August 07, 2015, 10:15:54 AM
Suburban in terms of population density and development pattern.  Several of the census tracks surrounding Baldwin Park have population densities less than 3,000 residents per square mile and Colonial becomes a pretty typical suburban autocentric arterial east of Bumby Avenue. With that said, Baldwin Park is a great infill development with a residential population density approaching 5,000/square mile now.  I hope some of our suburban areas can redevelop in a similar fashion.

Also, while it isn't what you'll find in South Beach, Baldwin Park's Publix is a nice one, in terms of layout and integration into the surrounding development. Publix certainly has worse in several areas across the state.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: Josh on August 07, 2015, 10:50:28 AM
I would say the Publix by Lake Eola is about as ritzy as they can get.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: ProjectMaximus on September 24, 2015, 12:30:53 AM
Publix Deli counter always gets people in a frenzy. This time it's Tampa.

http://wfla.com/2015/09/23/watch-shopper-catches-fight-at-temple-terrace-publix/
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: fsquid on September 24, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
those people are pretty bad at fighting.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: I-10east on September 24, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
So much for Publix automatically being upscale and Winn Dixie automatically being ghetto...
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on September 24, 2015, 03:29:51 PM
lol
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: spuwho on September 24, 2015, 08:48:18 PM
I went to Publix tonight and when I saw how many people were at the Deli waiting for their chicken wings, I got a little worried.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: CCMjax on September 24, 2015, 09:03:39 PM
What on earth is up with Publix!!!???  Their chicken wings are indeed pretty good but I prefer the rotisserie.  There is something about the deli/chicken area at Publix, I think it's the heat lamps or something.  One time someone in front of me took the last Mojo rotisserie and I almost raged!  I was so pissed but I just let it go.  Good times!
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: thelakelander on September 24, 2015, 09:40:48 PM
Quite night for me at the Publix deli tonight. I guess, to get some action, I need to show up for lunch or right after work!
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: riverside_mail on September 25, 2015, 10:18:40 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on September 24, 2015, 09:40:48 PM
Quite night for me at the Publix deli tonight. I guess, to get some action, I need to show up for lunch or right after work!

That's when all the hangry people need their Publix chicken fix.
Title: Re: Brawl breaks out in Orlando Publix
Post by: Know Growth on September 25, 2015, 09:04:50 PM

There might be hints to inevitable Roosevelt Publix episode.... :)

Roosevelt Winn Dixie is relative routine calm ambiance in comparison to Roosevelt Publix, "where shopping can be a pressure".

Five Points Publix is always a wonderful treat.