Westlake and Westside: The 'Nocatee' of Jax Industry
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For those of us who remember Tupac's "California Love," the west side is the best side. In Jacksonville, when it comes to industry, the west side is hard to beat. Today, Metro Jacksonville takes a visit to what could be called the "Nocatee of Industrial Jacksonville"-- Westlake and Westside Industrial Parks.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-jul-westlake-and-westside-the-nocatee-of-jax-industry
QuoteApproved as a Development of Regional Impact (DRI) in 1973, New Duval was to include 1,700 acres of industrial development, 43 acres of commercial land uses, and 13,000 residential units. It was to include its own downtown with skyscrapers and an internal monorail system. In addition, Sawgrass and the Tournament Players Club were anticipated to be held at New Duval.
Talk about ambitious/unrealistic. This is more bizarre than the plan to put elevated walkways all over Downtown.
If I had known, I could have given you the full tour at the SE Toyota / Westlake facility. ;)
^I'll still take you up on that offer!
Quote from: vicupstate on July 02, 2015, 09:30:26 AM
QuoteApproved as a Development of Regional Impact (DRI) in 1973, New Duval was to include 1,700 acres of industrial development, 43 acres of commercial land uses, and 13,000 residential units. It was to include its own downtown with skyscrapers and an internal monorail system. In addition, Sawgrass and the Tournament Players Club were anticipated to be held at New Duval.
What a fantastically bizarre idea, with the monorail acting as something of an exclamation point. Were there ever any renderings of this industrial city of the future? Did they come up with a city logo for New Duval? A cursory search isn't turning up too much for me. Maybe I've got True Detective on my mind, because I'm imagining it's design to be eerily similar to the fictitious city of Vinci.
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Westlake probably a great asset. Something other than residential roof tops. Important mix.And handy enough for employees living in surrounding county's.Who could have imagined the growth of surrounding county's, militant anti Jacksonville theme back in the early 70's,on the heels of Bold City Consolidation and vision of new city west of downtown?
Ah,the 70's!
Are we today basically,primarily responding to both good and bad consequences of an early era? Interesting how the initial "Vision" pans out over time.
Are we really any smarter,more astute than we were in the erly 70's?
It's hard to predict the future but easy to commit. State growth management policy planning horizon was further expanded with the emergence of "Sector Plan",special Sector Plan authorization, under the premise of some special local government qualification, responsibility.
Also during the early 70's,at the Duval/Clay line Gulfstream Land Development Co. announced Argyle- and projected giant population in a remote, undeveloped area.
Apparently there may have been a collective flinch, jolt in response to the seemingly surprise announcement.
The Gulfstream lands were smack dab in and amongst the regions groundwater recharge area, broad wetland belts created upland areas landlocked from existing roadways.
Bruce Smothers championed a new roadway west of Orange Park,on the westerly side of the huge wetland belt- straight North/South on a Section Line: Brannon Chaffee.
There were ill fated attempts at the westerly extension of Kingsley Avenue through (across) the wetland belt. Speculative land arrangements in anticipation of the new roadway.
In conjunction, during that early 70's era, coinciding with the local government planning act, Clay county produced a future roadways map depicting it's own Beltway- a gentle arch extending from Green Cove Springs over to Penney Farms/Reinhold and thence north.....to Brannon Chaffe.....finally acknowledged, furiously opposed during Clay County Lake Asbury Sector Plan #1,fairly handily vested as First Coast Outer Beltway ;D
Some former Gulfstream/Argyle lands went to default in the 80's, and a portion,1800 acres adjoining Cecil Field, were slated to become the (then) Florida Game & Fresh Water Fish Commission Brannon Chaffee Mitigation Park. At one point,G&F office Skip Truby made a visit to my office- grave concerns over BC Mitigation Park. Something going wrong. The Trust For Public Lands option on the yet to be committed Mitigation Park lands,about 1100 acres, had been lost, expired or strong armed out. Some locals had purchased the property. These new owners referred to their new holdings as recreation property-"The Farm". I remember listening to one owner,a well known person, wrestle with the idea of going the development way. Now "Oak Leaf" :D
I recall that State DCA review of Clay County Brannon Chaffee or Lake Asbury Sector Plan proposals resulted in objection to the level of commercial Clay had proposed,considring what was already planned for up the road a ways in Duval.
With all that industry, it makes sense that a market for a truck stop and hotel would come to fruition.
QuoteNorthwest Jacksonville gaining Pilot Travel Center and Holiday Inn Express
By Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor
Major commercial development is planned in Northwest Jacksonville along the Interstate 295 West Beltway.
Pilot Flying J intends to develop an almost 9-acre, more than $4 million Pilot Travel Center at southwest I-295 and Pritchard Road.
About two miles south, hotelier Philip Murphey plans to build a $9 million, up to 100-room Holiday Inn Express & Suites at northeast I-295 and Commonwealth Avenue.
The city is reviewing site plans and building-permit applications for the Pilot Travel Center on vacant property owned by Robert's Diesel Service Inc.
It would be the third Pilot Travel Center in the Jacksonville area. The others are in Baldwin off of I-10 and at County Road 210 off I-95.
Plans show Pilot Travel Centers will build a $4.15 million travel center, including an almost 13,000-square-foot retail building along with fueling positions for cars and trucks.
Plans show it will include a drive-thru Arby's, and the company says it also will include a Cinnabon and PJ Fresh, which sells fast-casual food such as roasted chicken, pizza, soup, salads, sandwiches and hot dogs.
full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=545895
Quote from: Know Growth on July 11, 2015, 12:06:52 PM
Westlake probably a great asset. Something other than residential roof tops. Important mix.And handy enough for employees living in surrounding county's.Who could have imagined the growth of surrounding county's, militant anti Jacksonville theme back in the early 70's,on the heels of Bold City Consolidation and vision of new city west of downtown?
Ah,the 70's!
Are we today basically,primarily responding to both good and bad consequences of an early era? Interesting how the initial "Vision" pans out over time.
Are we really any smarter,more astute than we were in the erly 70's?
It's hard to predict the future but easy to commit. State growth management policy planning horizon was further expanded with the emergence of "Sector Plan",special Sector Plan authorization, under the premise of some special local government qualification, responsibility.
Also during the early 70's,at the Duval/Clay line Gulfstream Land Development Co. announced Argyle- and projected giant population in a remote, undeveloped area.
Apparently there may have been a collective flinch, jolt in response to the seemingly surprise announcement.
The Gulfstream lands were smack dab in and amongst the regions groundwater recharge area, broad wetland belts created upland areas landlocked from existing roadways.
Bruce Smothers championed a new roadway west of Orange Park,on the westerly side of the huge wetland belt- straight North/South on a Section Line: Brannon Chaffee.
There were ill fated attempts at the westerly extension of Kingsley Avenue through (across) the wetland belt. Speculative land arrangements in anticipation of the new roadway.
In conjunction, during that early 70's era, coinciding with the local government planning act, Clay county produced a future roadways map depicting it's own Beltway- a gentle arch extending from Green Cove Springs over to Penney Farms/Reinhold and thence north.....to Brannon Chaffe.....finally acknowledged, furiously opposed during Clay County Lake Asbury Sector Plan #1,fairly handily vested as First Coast Outer Beltway ;D
Some former Gulfstream/Argyle lands went to default in the 80's, and a portion,1800 acres adjoining Cecil Field, were slated to become the (then) Florida Game & Fresh Water Fish Commission Brannon Chaffee Mitigation Park. At one point,G&F office Skip Truby made a visit to my office- grave concerns over BC Mitigation Park. Something going wrong. The Trust For Public Lands option on the yet to be committed Mitigation Park lands,about 1100 acres, had been lost, expired or strong armed out. Some locals had purchased the property. These new owners referred to their new holdings as recreation property-"The Farm". I remember listening to one owner,a well known person, wrestle with the idea of going the development way. Now "Oak Leaf" :D
I recall that State DCA review of Clay County Brannon Chaffee or Lake Asbury Sector Plan proposals resulted in objection to the level of commercial Clay had proposed,considring what was already planned for up the road a ways in Duval.
One of the original land partners involved with Oak Leaf then went on to establish Silver Leaf......St Johns County.
The 'Nocatee' of Jax Industry concept unveiled in 1973,the same year of Florida's Local Government Planning Act,the beginnings of 'modern' growth management'.Clay county's 1973 LGPA concept depicted an outer beltway.Fast forward to 2019,elements of the First Coast Expressway materializing,Mayor John Delaney provided key critical support even for the Clay county section,at that time the Brannon Chaffee leg which was profiled as a 'stand alone' project.The northern section connecting to I-10....and also US 90 could certainly enhance present day Westside development. Like Lakelander I believe,that is one section I could support.( I worked diligently to route FCE away from state conservation lands in Clay County)
You type like a bot.
The return of Know Growth?
Quote from: Captain Zissou on February 07, 2019, 11:45:30 AM
You type like a bot.
Yeah, no offense but I'm somehow confused by the post.
Especially as a response to an almost four-year-old comment.