Going through a list of the items vetoed by the governor, News4Jax found nearly $24 million targeted for northeast Florida projects was cut, including: Yes I Copied & pasted this from channel 4
$5 million for a youth and professional soccer facility in Jacksonville
$3 million total for three projects connected to historical St. Augustine
$2 million for the North Florida School of Special Education
$2 million for Jacksonville University
$1.5 million for the spaceport at Cecil Commerce Center
$1.2 million for the Sulzbacher Center
$1 million for the USS Adams Museum
$1 million for improvements to the Mayport Ferry
$1 million for North Fletcher Road in the city of Fernandina Beach
$1 million for Fernandina Beach North Fletcher Basin
Plus there were other items funded for $500,000 or less for projects serving the disabled, other special need individuals and school children that add up to nearly $4 million more.
The governor said the targets of his budget vetoes were projects that either did not go through a proper process before getting added or did not have a statewide impact.
"I try to use the best judgment I have," Scott said. "I represent all 20 million people in the state." I want to thank the fools that voted this Idiot back into office for a second term. Thank You The Choose 1 :P
I don't think he targeted NE FL. He cut $500 million overall so I think NE FL did pretty good. Orlando lost $25 million in just two vetos.
Ya, he screwed everyone... Like always. I have no idea how this guy got back into office. My father is a republican and he even hates him. *sigh* when will Floridians learn? It is also interesting to note all of the corporate well fare that made it through this budget that apparently is good for all 20 million Floridians. what a joke.
Here is a more extensive list from T-U. Northeast Florida was hit very hard.
QuoteLIST OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA PROJECTS VETOED FROM THE STATE BUDGET:
DUVAL COUNTY
■ Jacksonville University, $2 million
■ Guiding Stars child-care facility rating pilot program, $500,000
■ North Florida School of Special Education, $2 million
■ Arc Village in Jacksonville, $500,000
■ SOAR outreach program for the homeless, $97,000
■ St. Johns River Ferry, $1 million
■ Sulzbacher Center for Women and Families, $1.2 million
■ Riverside Fine Arts Project Listen, $50,000
■ Cecil Spaceport infrastructure, $1.5 million
■ USS Adams floating museum, $1 million
■ Children of Inmates programming, $350,000
CLAY COUNTY
■ Spring Park in Green Cove Springs, $400,000
NASSAU COUNTY
■ Ark of Nassau County, $90,000
■ Nassau Alcohol Crime Drug Abatement Coalition, $50,000
■ Council on Aging community life center, $250,000
■ Fernandina Beach North Fletcher basin, $1 million
■ Thomas Creek flooding assistance, $350,000
■ Widening Old Dixie Highway, $1.5 million
■ Fletcher Road in Fernandina Beach, $1 million
PUTNAM COUNTY
■ Jim King Recreational Trail, $200,000
ST. JOHNS
■ St. Augustine historic properties preservation and educational materials, $1 million
■ Ponce de Leon Hotel restoration at Flagler College, $2 million
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Quote from: UNFurbanist on June 23, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Ya, he screwed everyone... Like always. I have no idea how this guy got back into office. My father is a republican and he even hates him. *sigh* when will Floridians learn? It is also interesting to note all of the corporate well fare that made it through this budget that apparently is good for all 20 million Floridians. what a joke.
On NPR this morning, they talked about how low Scott's approval rating is. And yet he was re-elected last year. So we get three and half more years of that creep.
Quote from: UNFurbanist on June 23, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Ya, he screwed everyone... Like always. I have no idea how this guy got back into office.
Because the Florida Democratic Party nominated the former Republican governor who was also connected to the sleaziest ambulance chaser in the country. Don't blame me, I voted Wyllie.
Quote from: FSBA on June 23, 2015, 05:44:56 PM
Don't blame me, I voted Wyllie.
Same here, maybe people will learn for next time.
Quote from: Spitfire on June 23, 2015, 04:58:19 PM
Here is a more extensive list from T-U. Northeast Florida was hit very hard.
QuoteLIST OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA PROJECTS VETOED FROM THE STATE BUDGET:
DUVAL COUNTY
■ Jacksonville University, $2 million
■ Guiding Stars child-care facility rating pilot program, $500,000
■ North Florida School of Special Education, $2 million
■ Arc Village in Jacksonville, $500,000
■ SOAR outreach program for the homeless, $97,000
■ St. Johns River Ferry, $1 million
■ Sulzbacher Center for Women and Families, $1.2 million
■ Riverside Fine Arts Project Listen, $50,000
■ Cecil Spaceport infrastructure, $1.5 million
■ USS Adams floating museum, $1 million
■ Children of Inmates programming, $350,000
CLAY COUNTY
■ Spring Park in Green Cove Springs, $400,000
NASSAU COUNTY
■ Ark of Nassau County, $90,000
■ Nassau Alcohol Crime Drug Abatement Coalition, $50,000
■ Council on Aging community life center, $250,000
■ Fernandina Beach North Fletcher basin, $1 million
■ Thomas Creek flooding assistance, $350,000
■ Widening Old Dixie Highway, $1.5 million
■ Fletcher Road in Fernandina Beach, $1 million
PUTNAM COUNTY
■ Jim King Recreational Trail, $200,000
ST. JOHNS
■ St. Augustine historic properties preservation and educational materials, $1 million
■ Ponce de Leon Hotel restoration at Flagler College, $2 million
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Jax cleaned up. Scott pretty much vetoed any money going to private universities on the state dime so JU is not unique. From there, some small projects and the money for the USS Adams is sad but will have to wait for more lobbying efforts.
I also thought libertarians would support more vetoes and fiscal restraint?
I didn't vote for Rick Scott in his first term as Governor or his second term. I did vote for Charlie Christ the Morgan & Morgan lawyer ex Governor of Florida Republican, Independent & Democrat. Alex Sink didn't run mainly because of the death of her late husband. So we got Rick Scott for a second term :o What do I think of Rick Scott other then the fact he is a Bad Governor? I feel Nothing. https://stateimpact.npr.org/florida/2015/06/23/gov-scott-breaks-budget-veto-record/
The panhandle got pretty screwed also. Not just private stuff, but things such as the St Marks Lighthouse, which should be covered under the state maintenance, anyway. Now, when will we see the $400M in savings? Where does this money now go? Do we all get refunds? More tax breaks for the rich/corporations?
First off..I am not a Scott backer.
That being said...everything can't get approved. Sometimes projects are going to get vetoed. It's a matter of budget. Basic mathematics. Just like your home budget. There is only so much that can be done with income.
I think the real focus should not be on what didn't get approved (because everything that was vetoed can be resubmitted), but what did get approved. Do we have a list of that?
Quote from: menace1069 on June 24, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
First off..I am not a Scott backer.
That being said...everything can't get approved. Sometimes projects are going to get vetoed. It's a matter of budget. Basic mathematics. Just like your home budget. There is only so much that can be done with income.
I think the real focus should not be on what didn't get approved (because everything that was vetoed can be resubmitted), but what did get approved. Do we have a list of that?
I'd rather see a list of what was approved, what wasn't approved, and how much the state has in the budget. While some of these vetos do make sense (the soccer facility, private colleges), some of them seem like clear politicking (USS Adams, widening Old Dixie Highway in Nassau, St. Aug historic preservation). The gubna doesn't want to seem like anything other than a fiscal conservative for his eventual run for Congress. How else would he get the nod? Party > constituents.
Quote from: E_Dubya on June 24, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: menace1069 on June 24, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
First off..I am not a Scott backer.
That being said...everything can't get approved. Sometimes projects are going to get vetoed. It's a matter of budget. Basic mathematics. Just like your home budget. There is only so much that can be done with income.
I think the real focus should not be on what didn't get approved (because everything that was vetoed can be resubmitted), but what did get approved. Do we have a list of that?
I'd rather see a list of what was approved, what wasn't approved, and how much the state has in the budget. While some of these vetos do make sense (the soccer facility, private colleges), some of them seem like clear politicking (USS Adams, widening Old Dixie Highway in Nassau, St. Aug historic preservation). The gubna doesn't want to seem like anything other than a fiscal conservative for his eventual run for Congress. How else would he get the nod? Party > constituents.
I agree with you here...these vetoes do not make sense. The only one that I can kinda see is the USS Adams. That is something that our fair city is trying to put together and the bulk of that cost should rest with the city, not the state. (IMO)
Infrastructure...roadways, bridges, etc should almost always be approved (again, IMO).
St Auggie...like it or not, it's a tourist attraction and it brings money to the city and the state so of course that should be taken care of (within reason).
Here is my issue. He seems to be vetoing all these items which, from the look of it, mostly seem legit and worthy, yet he is also saying he is cutting $400 million in taxes? Shouldn't takes be going the other way now?
Quote from: UNFurbanist on June 23, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Ya, he screwed everyone... Like always. I have no idea how this guy got back into office.
He got reelected because despite all of their claims to be the "real Floridians," South Florida voters couldn't be bothered to vote.
Quote from: Josh on June 24, 2015, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: UNFurbanist on June 23, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Ya, he screwed everyone... Like always. I have no idea how this guy got back into office.
He got reelected because despite all of their claims to be the "real Floridians," South Florida voters couldn't be bothered to vote.
Our voter turnout in Northeast Florida wasn't all that spectacular, either.
"Plus there were other items funded for $500,000 or less for projects serving the disabled, other special need individuals and school children that add up to nearly $4 million more." So Rick Scott prefers to Screw the disabled, whats new. Screw the people who need help the most get back on track or even get on the track. Rick how big is your heart I bet it's smaller then the Grinch's heart. So will Mr Curry the savior of Jacksonville Florida stand up once he is Mayor and help out these projects serving the disabled. Only time will tell. :-\
Quote from: Spitfire on June 24, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: Josh on June 24, 2015, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: UNFurbanist on June 23, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Ya, he screwed everyone... Like always. I have no idea how this guy got back into office.
He got reelected because despite all of their claims to be the "real Floridians," South Florida voters couldn't be bothered to vote.
Our voter turnout in Northeast Florida wasn't all that spectacular, either.
Still nearly 10% higher than Miami-Dade's turnout. In the context of Scott being re-elected, I would have been fine with Duval voters staying home.
Quote from: menace1069 on June 24, 2015, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: E_Dubya on June 24, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: menace1069 on June 24, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
First off..I am not a Scott backer.
That being said...everything can't get approved. Sometimes projects are going to get vetoed. It's a matter of budget. Basic mathematics. Just like your home budget. There is only so much that can be done with income.
I think the real focus should not be on what didn't get approved (because everything that was vetoed can be resubmitted), but what did get approved. Do we have a list of that?
I'd rather see a list of what was approved, what wasn't approved, and how much the state has in the budget. While some of these vetos do make sense (the soccer facility, private colleges), some of them seem like clear politicking (USS Adams, widening Old Dixie Highway in Nassau, St. Aug historic preservation). The gubna doesn't want to seem like anything other than a fiscal conservative for his eventual run for Congress. How else would he get the nod? Party > constituents.
I agree with you here...these vetoes do not make sense. The only one that I can kinda see is the USS Adams. That is something that our fair city is trying to put together and the bulk of that cost should rest with the city, not the state. (IMO)
Infrastructure...roadways, bridges, etc should almost always be approved (again, IMO).
St Auggie...like it or not, it's a tourist attraction and it brings money to the city and the state so of course that should be taken care of (within reason).
Scott clearly went after some pork in Nassau that Bean secured but probably rightfully so. Nassau does not need that many projects. On the other hand, the St. A preservation and USS Adams vetoes are disturbing.
The Ferry veto is troubling, too. It was for periodic maintenance on the boat (IIRC). He vetoed it "because the Ferry got $1 million last year for the same thing"? Uh, so, if his pilot says his jet needs a tune up, would he veto it because he just had one last year?
Quote from: Charles Hunter on June 24, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
The Ferry veto is troubling, too. It was for periodic maintenance on the boat (IIRC). He vetoed it "because the Ferry got $1 million last year for the same thing"? Uh, so, if his pilot says his jet needs a tune up, would he veto it because he just had one last year?
Well since Scott uses his own plane I guess he pays for the maintenance also?
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on June 24, 2015, 10:13:27 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on June 24, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
The Ferry veto is troubling, too. It was for periodic maintenance on the boat (IIRC). He vetoed it "because the Ferry got $1 million last year for the same thing"? Uh, so, if his pilot says his jet needs a tune up, would he veto it because he just had one last year?
Well since Scott uses his own plane I guess he pays for the maintenance also?
Uh, right, but the point was, would he forgo annual maintenance this year, because he had it done last year?
QuoteSo will Mr Curry the savior of Jacksonville Florida stand up once he is Mayor and help out these projects serving the disabled. Only time will tell.
So how have the last 4 years of that "I'm With Alvin" Public/Private partnership been working out for ya? Crickets............
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 25, 2015, 06:03:26 AM
QuoteSo will Mr Curry the savior of Jacksonville Florida stand up once he is Mayor and help out these projects serving the disabled. Only time will tell.
So how have the last 4 years of that "I'm With Alvin" Public/Private partnership been working out for ya? Crickets............
Not to good but the disabled have always been looked over & have the highest unemployment above any race in Florida or America. Crickets........
Quote from: Josh on June 24, 2015, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: UNFurbanist on June 23, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
I have no idea how this guy got back into office.
South Florida voters couldn't be bothered to vote.
Bingo. Razor thin vote margin. Again. Politics! Condensed down to the essential effect:The Democrat candidate transformed from NRA Endorsed Conservative to Anti Gun welfare constituent advocate.
Some day we might place in to office a Governor that can not fund his own private aircraft, and therefore we will need to reinstate, and budget for our governments' own aircraft service. The savings might prove phenomenal.
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 25, 2015, 06:03:26 AM
QuoteSo will Mr Curry the savior of Jacksonville Florida stand up once he is Mayor and help out these projects serving the disabled. Only time will tell.
So how have the last 4 years of that "I'm With Alvin" Public/Private partnership been working out for ya? Crickets............
Don't need to be a wisecrack for this. We all know that the election was a lame duck... with poor representative running for the office, except the last election we had for our city council members was a such refreshing change for the city of Jacksonville
Read today's July 4th edition of the Florida Times Union 7/4/2015. On the front page "Agencies reeling after Scott vetoes funding."
Quote from: coredumped on June 23, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
Quote from: FSBA on June 23, 2015, 05:44:56 PM
Don't blame me, I voted Wyllie.
Same here, maybe people will learn for next time.
Me, too. That election was another stunning example of why 2 parties aren't enough.