http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182305-why-joseph-hogan-endorsed-alvin-brown
Tony has evolved from a sport writer to a political writer while offering some insightful articles on local elections. His absolute love for Curry has clouded his recent writings and now he has written an entire article based on his twitter interaction. He has deviated right from his non partisan writings to a political hack for Curry. Is he promised a media gig w/ Curry? Having full time work is important to freelance writers, but I feel we are being hoodwinked by his sudden departure from thoughtful, interesting articles to full blown ads for Curry. The articles which were previously "must read" grew to "oh my, why"? Personal opinion, as I am not stating facts for full disclosure to one who wants links before I write a comment.
Gankarski is definitely one of the most interesting and valuable writers covering this generally dull campaign. I'm very he's not just giving Brown a pass, as most of our media are doing. If that makes him pro-Curry, I guess reality is pro-Curry, or at least against Brown.
The Hogan camp blamed the party for losing 4 years ago. Sore losers often want payback.
People fail (all the time). The best people figure out what they did wrong, fix it and move on. If you want to simply blame others and enact revenge instead, that sure does say a lot...
This from the same family that was playing election blackjack with Robin Lumb, wheeling and dealing for seats at the table. Sorry but the word 'integrity' doesn't come to mind here.
^Good point. It does come off as sour grapes from the camp who lost four years ago.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 04, 2015, 07:29:00 AM
Gankarski is definitely one of the most interesting and valuable writers covering this generally dull campaign. I'm very he's not just giving Brown a pass, as most of our media are doing. If that makes him pro-Curry, I guess reality is pro-Curry, or at least against Brown.
There is absolutely NO debate about this. Without his articles in the last 6 -9 months, many, if not most citizens were be uninformed, on the many important events and nuances. I just hope he continues writing about politics for Florida Politics and the many other free lance writing gigs he has. I don't want to lose his brilliant insight to the mayors office.
The Hogan Jr. article seemed out of left field and left many to make assumptions that may or may not be true.
^People who believe that as weak as Curry may appear as a candidate, Brown is even worse as a mayor.
Curry has management experience, which Alvin does not, even after four years as the city's CEO. Curry also knows how to run budgets, which will also be a very nice change of pace. I really think Curry is a more moderate, cooperative person than it appears from his campaign, and he'll turn out to be a better mayor than his detractors may think. But yes, it's entirely his fault for allowing his public image to shape up like it has. He'll have some cleaning up to do. Then again, you can't always tell how a politician will be from their campaign; for instance, Alvin ran a very good campaign in 2011, and...
If you haven't noticed by now, you're unlikely to get a rise out of me with rhetoric, so feel free to conserve some energy.
Curry has held management positions for like 20 years. He was at PWC and now runs his own accounting firm, ICX Group. That's also how he has accounting experience. Curry also ran the statewide Republican Party for several years and the Duval party before that, I think. This sets him apart from his competition, who hasn't successfully run anything, either before or since getting elected.
Quote from: Jax native on May 03, 2015, 11:57:19 PM
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182305-why-joseph-hogan-endorsed-alvin-brown
Tony has evolved from a sport writer to a political writer while offering some insightful articles on local elections. His absolute love for Curry has clouded his recent writings and now he has written an entire article based on his twitter interaction. He has deviated right from his non partisan writings to a political hack for Curry. Is he promised a media gig w/ Curry? Having full time work is important to freelance writers, but I feel we are being hoodwinked by his sudden departure from thoughtful, interesting articles to full blown ads for Curry. The articles which were previously "must read" grew to "oh my, why"? Personal opinion, as I am not stating facts for full disclosure to one who wants links before I write a comment.
Yes, he is jumping down too many "rabbit holes". It comes off as creating a story line to report as opposed to good investigative work as he did with the Kimberly Daniels information. It is the implied drama surrounding benign events that is impacting his reporting in a non productive way. You can only cry wolf to create reading excitement for so long. Too much stale bread and not enough meat. I like AG by the way, but "busy work" as opposed to work of value doesn't play well in the long run. I am not trying to insult him in any way, just hoping that he takes a step back and pays attention to recent responses to his work. Positive criticism is what I am going for here.
Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2015, 11:31:46 AM
Joe Hogan is a smart and independent thinker. And shame on Tony for enabling the Curry campaign to pretend that Joe voted simply because his father lost an election a few years ago.
I suppose that I should vote like my parents and grandparents then?
Ridiculous on the face of it, and I say that as a lifelong friend of Tony. This is not something that he thought through.
Joe is conservative socially, and he likes dialogue and discourse. Lenny is certainly none of those things. Really other than a few old political allies and a few groups who don't really like the liberals, the minorities or any sense of christian charity, who in their right minds would back this highly partisan reptile? And of course, exactly as he did with Bishop, the character assassination and sour grapes reality of this hack came out right away with a personal attack on Hogan:
QuoteAs well, Hogan relates, his move can partially be framed as a brushback pitch aimed at the heads of Curry's core supporters.
"I think Lenny's campaign has been divisive for the party. There is a small group of people that want to control the Mayor's office, including who is in it. They helped put Alvin in office and then they dropped him for someone else," Hogan contended.
As well, "Lenny's actions with the REC vote and his style of campaigning would be seen in his administration. A true leader would not have allowed that type of behavior to happen," said Hogan, in reference to the drama at the January meeting of the Republican Executive Committee in which the decision was made to endorse Curry over Bill Bishop, a move which seems to have catalyzed ill will that led to the departure of many key Bishop staffers to the Democratic Party (at least two in compensated roles), and the eventual Bishop endorsement of Brown.
Not surprisingly, the Curry campaign downplays the impact of this endorsement. As Brian Hughes, Curry's spokesman, said on Sunday morning, "the son of a candidate who lost in a mayor's race four years ago is news?"
What a serial jerk.
I agree, and I also really care about Tony whom I've known about 5 years. I was first blown away when I listening to First Coast Connect w/ Melissa Ross last friday at "news round table'. Tony blatantly said, "Curry is the only one running a positive campaign", then expounded on this nonsense. I was taken aback and I spoke of this earlier. Who needs Brian Hughes when well respected A.G. Garcanski can do the same job?
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 04, 2015, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Jax native on May 03, 2015, 11:57:19 PM
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182305-why-joseph-hogan-endorsed-alvin-brown
Tony has evolved from a sport writer to a political writer while offering some insightful articles on local elections. His absolute love for Curry has clouded his recent writings and now he has written an entire article based on his twitter interaction. He has deviated right from his non partisan writings to a political hack for Curry. Is he promised a media gig w/ Curry? Having full time work is important to freelance writers, but I feel we are being hoodwinked by his sudden departure from thoughtful, interesting articles to full blown ads for Curry. The articles which were previously "must read" grew to "oh my, why"? Personal opinion, as I am not stating facts for full disclosure to one who wants links before I write a comment.
Yes, he is jumping down too many "rabbit holes". It comes off as creating a story line to report as opposed to good investigative work as he did with the Kimberly Daniels information. It is the implied drama surrounding benign events that is impacting his reporting in a non productive way. You can only cry wolf to create reading excitement for so long. Too much stale bread and not enough meat. I like AG by the way, but "busy work" as opposed to work of value doesn't play well in the long run. I am not trying to insult him in any way, just hoping that he takes a step back and pays attention to recent responses to his work. Positive criticism is what I am going for here.
Diane, you're correct. Some Florida Politics articles are seemingly too much as "creating" stories as opposed to reporting on what is happening.
This showed up on twitter the other day under #jaxpol. Made me chuckle.
https://twitter.com/justaguyinjax/status/594214278120476673
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD8Ssw1WMAANGp8.jpg)
Civility aside, I think the tweet encompasses a growing perception, which is that there is definite bias where there should be none, unless one is writing opinion pieces. IMO Apparently others are noticing a trend which gave birth to this meme. That is not so hot when one wants to grow a readership across the board politically unless the intent is indeed to appeal to one political party.
Quote from: Jimmy on May 04, 2015, 06:42:18 PM
This showed up on twitter the other day under #jaxpol. Made me chuckle.
https://twitter.com/justaguyinjax/status/594214278120476673
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD8Ssw1WMAANGp8.jpg)
HA................just the exact thoughts I have had recently.
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 04, 2015, 08:14:12 PM
Civility aside, I think the tweet encompasses a growing perception, which I that there is definite bias where there should be none, unless one is writing opinion pieces. IMO Apparently others are noticing a trend which gave birth to this meme. That is not so hot when one wants to grow a readership across the board politically unless the intent is indeed to appeal to one political party.
I sincerely thought I was the only one, having not been on #jaxpol twitter feed. It happened so fast, as I was praising Tony 5 weeks ago while talking with him.
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182351-lenny-curry-and-alvin-brown-addressed-visit-jacksonville-and-i-got-to-hear-one-of-them
New game for jax politics, Who said it; A.G. Garcanski or Brain Hughes?
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182197-lenny-curry-on-the-importance-of-nonprofits-and-faith
Does his mix of op-ed and journalist define his style as gonzo? Asking for a friend.
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on May 05, 2015, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 04, 2015, 12:03:07 PM
Curry has management experience, which Alvin does not, even after four years as the city's CEO. Curry also knows how to run budgets, which will also be a very nice change of pace. I really think Curry is a more moderate, cooperative person than it appears from his campaign, and he'll turn out to be a better mayor than his detractors may think. But yes, it's entirely his fault for allowing his public image to shape up like it has. He'll have some cleaning up to do. Then again, you can't always tell how a politician will be from their campaign; for instance, Alvin ran a very good campaign in 2011, and...
Well, judging by the Willie Horton-esque mailers I am getting in the mail, Curry sucks hard as a manager.
Anyone else draw comparisons between this race and Mayweather v. Pacquiao? Mayweather/Brown just has to sit back and defend and not lose the fight, while Pacquiao/Curry has to go out and win it by actually throwing the punches.
Yeah, the Curry campaign's negativity reflects badly on his public face. It doesn't really say anything about his management experience, though.
To a point, though, the real problem is exactly what you said: Curry's the one who has to go out there and throw the punches. That's just a product of the fact that most of the media has just given Brown pass on his various failings. It's not like Curry's claims are false, but stories that would have gotten a mayor lambasted in better times now barely register in the media. I doubt this is as much an issue of partisanship as it is the decline the news in general. But either way, it's gotten so bad that a blogger who calls out the mayor is seen by some as partisan, rather than just doing what all journalists did 10 years ago.
AG does good work, on whole.
His pieces published in the last 24 hours regarding a recent District 7 debate and the City Council Rules Committee response to Kimberly Daniels financial & housing issues are valuable - noone else is reporting these things vaguely, let alone with detail.
There's plenty of rabbit holes, not all will be relevant.
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182465-alvin-brown-billionaire-benefactor-willie-gary-loses-2m-property-in-foreclosure-auction
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, an article clearly needed and non partisan as well. Curry doesn't need go negative with "only positive campaign" (As A.G. clearly noted on May 1, with Melissa Ross's First Coast Connect) with articles like this.
I'm going with Brian Hughes wrote this one.
I hate to call Tony out, because he is the brightest and most informative journalist around North Florida now, but what happened? The pro Curry articles are taking up a lot of space in Florida Politics these days. His talent is far beyond others, and hate to see such a partisan slant.
Quote from: Jimmy on May 04, 2015, 06:42:18 PM
This showed up on twitter the other day under #jaxpol. Made me chuckle.
https://twitter.com/justaguyinjax/status/594214278120476673
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD8Ssw1WMAANGp8.jpg)
Some of Alvin's operatives specialize in attacking perceived enemies in the storied medium of anonymous image macros. I don't know if this is one of them, though, as it doesn't seem to be regurgitating a generic meme from circa 2011, and that's the trademark. Either way, it's kind of an odd strategy, as it only appeals to people who already agree with you, and who think memes are clever.
Quote from: Tacachale on May 05, 2015, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on May 05, 2015, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 04, 2015, 12:03:07 PM
Curry has management experience, which Alvin does not, even after four years as the city's CEO. Curry also knows how to run budgets, which will also be a very nice change of pace. I really think Curry is a more moderate, cooperative person than it appears from his campaign, and he'll turn out to be a better mayor than his detractors may think. But yes, it's entirely his fault for allowing his public image to shape up like it has. He'll have some cleaning up to do. Then again, you can't always tell how a politician will be from their campaign; for instance, Alvin ran a very good campaign in 2011, and...
Well, judging by the Willie Horton-esque mailers I am getting in the mail, Curry sucks hard as a manager.
Anyone else draw comparisons between this race and Mayweather v. Pacquiao? Mayweather/Brown just has to sit back and defend and not lose the fight, while Pacquiao/Curry has to go out and win it by actually throwing the punches.
Yeah, the Curry campaign's negativity reflects badly on his public face. It doesn't really say anything about his management experience, though.
To a point, though, the real problem is exactly what you said: Curry's the one who has to go out there and throw the punches. That's just a product of the fact that most of the media has just given Brown pass on his various failings. It's not like Curry's claims are false, but stories that would have gotten a mayor lambasted in better times now barely register in the media. I doubt this is as much an issue of partisanship as it is the decline the news in general. But either way, it's gotten so bad that a blogger who calls out the mayor is seen by some as partisan, rather than just doing what all journalists did 10 years ago.
I agree with most of what you are saying here but AG to my understanding has media credentials and is writing for Florida Politics which I think is supposed to be more than blogging.
Quote from: stephendare on May 05, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
Quote from: ben america on May 05, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
Does his mix of op-ed and journalist define his style as gonzo? Asking for a friend.
no. Gonzo Journalism is a bit impressionist. Its the attempt to convey the underlying truth regardless of the facts. Like reporting that the lobby is full of rioting klansman who are burning an effigy of Richard Nixon as though it were factual in order to describe the we love avondale hearing against mellow mushroom.
What Tony is doing is called advocacy reporting.
Well I learned something new today Stephen. Thank you. I did not know anything about "Gonzo" reporting. I did some reading on it after looking at Ben's post and your response. I think you are correct that Tony is doing a lot of advocacy reporting but it gets confused with his investigative work like he did on Kimberly Daniels residency etc. In an age where there is so much drivel to be found instead of solid fact based reporting, the advocacy style misses the mark for me. Must be my age having grown up in an era where we had Cronkite and other top notch folks dishing out the news. I don't care one bit for the "Gonzo" nonsense nor "advocacy" reporting if indeed the intent is to hit a mainstream market with facts. Perhaps that is not what Florida Politics is after. If so, perhaps they should state Florida Politics, advocacy reporting. :)
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on May 05, 2015, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: stephendare on May 05, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
Quote from: ben america on May 05, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
Does his mix of op-ed and journalist define his style as gonzo? Asking for a friend.
no. Gonzo Journalism is a bit impressionist. Its the attempt to convey the underlying truth regardless of the facts. Like reporting that the lobby is full of rioting klansman who are burning an effigy of Richard Nixon as though it were factual in order to describe the we love avondale hearing against mellow mushroom.
What Tony is doing is called advocacy reporting.
Well I learned something new today Stephen. Thank you. I did not know anything about "Gonzo" reporting. I did some reading on it after looking at Ben's post and your response. I think you are correct that Tony is doing a lot of advocacy reporting but it gets confused with his investigative work like he did on Kimberly Daniels residency etc. In an age where there is so much drivel to be found instead of solid fact based reporting, the advocacy style misses the mark for me. Must be my age having grown up in an era where we had Cronkite and other top notch folks dishing out the news. I don't care one bit for the "Gonzo" nonsense nor "advocacy" reporting if indeed the intent is to hit a mainstream market with facts. Perhaps that is not what Florida Politics is after. If so, perhaps they should state Florida Politics, advocacy reporting. :)
Obviously I feel A.G. has stepped over the line to the "Gonzo" advocacy of yesteryears. I'm so impressed with his writing but unimpressed in how he is trying to make it authentic. I had so wished for a non partisan group to write insightful, knowledgeable, and fact based writing. I'm disappointed and perhaps fooled by Florida Politics.
http://folioweekly.com/SAFETY-DANCE,12438
Tell me more about the progressive Lenny Curry? Oh, you have nothing about him? why? Does Lenny Curry support HRO? No? Why? Can we read that answer next week in Folio Weekly?
I'm sincerely bewildered by Tony's articles about Mayor Brown not stating directed his support of HRO, but the loud silence on What Lenny Curry has and hasn't said. Did I miss a press announcement about Curry supporting HRO? Why is Mayor Brown the only object of his negative writings about HRO?
Quote from: Jax native on May 05, 2015, 11:29:31 PM
http://folioweekly.com/SAFETY-DANCE,12438
Tell me more about the progressive Lenny Curry? Oh, you have nothing about him? why? Does Lenny Curry support HRO? No? Why? Can we read that answer next week in Folio Weekly?
I'm sincerely bewildered by Tony's articles about Mayor Brown not stating directed his support of HRO, but the loud silence on What Lenny Curry has and hasn't said. Did I miss a press announcement about Curry supporting HRO? Why is Mayor Brown the only object of his negative writings about HRO?
So slick Alvin has had 4 years to back the hro and he has done what.......thanks
Yikes, I hate when attacks become so personal on MJ. Bill, can you take it down a notch or four?