Urban Construction Update - April 2015
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Major construction projects have returned to the landscape of Jacksonville's urban core. Find out where (and more) as we take a brief look at the status of various developments under construction in and around Downtown Jacksonville during the month of April 2015.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-urban-construction-update-april-2015
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
#26 Hopes to be open by December 2015.
Also, you left out Tapas Old World, the newly painted red building on the 1400 block of Main Street. Work continues on the inside & outside.
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
What don't you like about them? They are very urban in design and fit into the area very well.
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 30, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
What don't you like about them? They are very urban in design and fit into the area very well.
220 Doesn't have the big eaves that are shown on the rendering and the colors are a lot more subdued. Brooklyn riverside is painted all doctors office beige, compare that to the renderings they've put out which was a lot more eye catching (some might argue in a bad way but I liked it)
I liked the entire Springfield section. Lots of new positive projects getting started. 904 Margaret Street looks like it was a beautiful home in it's day. Then the other properties that are being renovated look cool, too, like the Jacobs building and the other red brick property on Laura Street. Love to see that stuff.
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 30, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
What don't you like about them? They are very urban in design and fit into the area very well.
220 Doesn't have the big eaves that are shown on the rendering and the colors are a lot more subdued. Brooklyn riverside is painted all doctors office beige, compare that to the renderings they've put out which was a lot more eye catching (some might argue in a bad way but I liked it)
The pictures in the article show units that haven't been painted yet. The Brooklyn Riverside units that are open and occupied are painted exactly like the rendering.
If we are on the subject of color schemes... not only is the taxpayer-subsidized Parador parking garage that allowed a private landowner to flip a property for millions a bad thing fundamentally for downtown on such prime space (the retail will likely never be built now that there is a new ownership group), the half-@ssed pinkish color scheme is atrocious.
Quote from: fieldafm on April 30, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 30, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
What don't you like about them? They are very urban in design and fit into the area very well.
220 Doesn't have the big eaves that are shown on the rendering and the colors are a lot more subdued. Brooklyn riverside is painted all doctors office beige, compare that to the renderings they've put out which was a lot more eye catching (some might argue in a bad way but I liked it)
The pictures in the article show units that haven't been painted yet. The Brooklyn Riverside units that are open and occupied are painted exactly like the rendering.
If we are on the subject of color schemes... not only is the taxpayer-subsidized Parador parking garage that allowed a private landowner to flip a property for millions a bad thing fundamentally for downtown on such prime space (the retail will likely never be built now that there is a new ownership group), the half-@ssed pinkish color scheme is atrocious.
That's good. I doubt they are going to be putting the eaves on 220 though, of well.
And yes, that garage is horrible.
There's the Bold Bean Cafe expansion in Murray Hill. They just posted that update on there facebook a couple of days ago. Someone is also renovating the building across the street from bold bean. I'm not to sure what the address is of the building but they are removing windows and fixing up the inside of that building. It used to be a wine store (I'm pretty sure)
The main thing at 220 is in the renderings, the top trim was brown. In reality, it's white.
Now, it's possibly they plan to paint this too.
I spoke with the Parks & Rec department about the Julius Guinyard pool (#29), and they said construction is essentially complete and the pool will re-open with all of the area public pools on Memorial Day weekend.
220 looks really nice inside.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/slideshow/2015/04/30/heres-a-first-look-at-220-riverside.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/slideshow/2015/04/30/heres-a-first-look-at-220-riverside.html)
As far as adding ground level retail to the new garage when the Suntrust Tower hits 65% occupancy, anyone know what the current occupancy rate is?
Quote from: benfranklinbof on April 30, 2015, 09:24:35 AM
There's the Bold Bean Cafe expansion in Murray Hill. They just posted that update on there facebook a couple of days ago. Someone is also renovating the building across the street from bold bean. I'm not to sure what the address is of the building but they are removing windows and fixing up the inside of that building. It used to be a wine store (I'm pretty sure)
Yeah, Bold bean will be opening a little café there. I'm really looking forward to it opening.
I'm glad something is happening on the other side of Edgewood Avenue. There are 5 empty storefronts on that side of Edgewood Ave.
Quote from: KenFSU on April 30, 2015, 10:08:56 AM
As far as adding ground level retail to the new garage when the Suntrust Tower hits 65% occupancy, anyone know what the current occupancy rate is?
According to DIA, 47% (a number I question based on the advertised available square footage before the sale of the building). Although that is a moot point now that a new ownership group has taken over.
BTW, the new ownership group also renegged on an agreement to be a One Spark venue this year.
You may want to add 1012-1014 King St. to your list. Scott McAlister has started interior work on the Bearded Buffalo Tap Room.
^Nice!
Quote from: riverside_mail on April 30, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
You may want to add 1012-1014 King St. to your list. Scott McAlister has started interior work on the Bearded Buffalo Tap Room.
For those wondering, this is the old antique shop where the King Street Farmers Market used to be held.
McAlister is also putting two bowling lanes into the building as part of the complex from what I understand. The Bearded Buffalo project has effectively put the plans for a burger space across the street (the small building in between the Chinese takeout space and Burger King) on permanent hiatus.
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Field, are there any plans to utilize the courtyard between buffalo and the garage?? I always wanted to put my World Famous Taco Shop in the antique building with a nice outdoor patio. Scott's a friend, so I hope he succeeds, but if he doesn't get ready for the Taco Shop!
In other news, 2 buildings on palm ave near the fuller warren have been demolished in the past month. Anyone know why??
Pretty sure the lot will be used for parking.
Baptist Health owns everything on that block except the the building on the corner of Nira and San Marco Boulevard. Most of it is an odd shaped dirt parking lot.
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Quote from: fieldafm on April 30, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: riverside_mail on April 30, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
You may want to add 1012-1014 King St. to your list. Scott McAlister has started interior work on the Bearded Buffalo Tap Room.
For those wondering, this is the old antique shop where the King Street Farmers Market used to be held.
McAlister is also putting two bowling lanes into the building as part of the complex from what I understand. The Bearded Buffalo project has effectively put the plans for a burger space across the street (the small building in between the Chinese takeout space and Burger King) on permanent hiatus.
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Slight note, 1012-14 King is the building next to Burger King. Not sure of the Antique store address, but it is odd numbered.
So Scott owns 1012-14 King AND the former Antique store across the street? How about the connected place next door (between Carmines and Antique place)?
People at the city should be fired over the SunTrust/Parador deal. I think that takes the cake for worst single deal I've ever heard of any city making in my life. And it was the most predictable, too.
Conversely, it should be outlawed for any candidate in Jacksonville up for election to run on a platform of never raising taxes and always looking out for taxpayer interests. This is clearly never the case and is an outright lie. That is all anyone's platform ever is, no substance beyond that, and we get deals like this that happen with little to no scrutiny.
So shameful.
Is it me, or have the JTA Flyer improvements on Broad and Jefferson taken forever? I drive this most days and it seems like this is going at a snail's pace
RE: interiors of 220 Riverside. $1160/mo for 701 sf for an apartment that looks like that is about the best deal that can be had anywhere in this country. $1.65psf. I'd refrain from calling some of the finishes/fixtures/furniture "high quality", but you won't get expensive materials/finishes until you hit a good $2.50psf and beyond in most cities (which will never happen in Jax). Still, a) there are very few apartments that are that nice in SF, b) they're rarely if ever that large (they're calling 701 sf a "studio" when that could easily be a 2 bedroom here), and c) that would rent for $5-6+psf here (at that size) or $6-7+psf for a "studio" of similar finishes but half the size.
I really wish Brooklyn Riverside had some retail, mainly on Park. Creates a dead zone there. Also, the density is weak. It is better than nothing and hopefully this sets off some better projects, but this one with the suburban Fresh Market are mediocre.
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
+1
Quote from: PeeJayEss on April 30, 2015, 04:31:03 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on April 30, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: riverside_mail on April 30, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
You may want to add 1012-1014 King St. to your list. Scott McAlister has started interior work on the Bearded Buffalo Tap Room.
For those wondering, this is the old antique shop where the King Street Farmers Market used to be held.
McAlister is also putting two bowling lanes into the building as part of the complex from what I understand. The Bearded Buffalo project has effectively put the plans for a burger space across the street (the small building in between the Chinese takeout space and Burger King) on permanent hiatus.
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/1973681267_9TQzTHX-M.jpg)
Slight note, 1012-14 King is the building next to Burger King. Not sure of the Antique store address, but it is odd numbered.
So Scott owns 1012-14 King AND the former Antique store across the street? How about the connected place next door (between Carmines and Antique place)?
The antique store is 1021 King. The connected part you are asking about is part of the store. Work is going on at the building next to BK and they are already getting mail there as Bearded Buffalo.
QuoteConversely, it should be outlawed for any candidate in Jacksonville up for election to run on a platform of never raising taxes and always looking out for taxpayer interests. This is clearly never the case and is an outright lie. That is all anyone's platform ever is, no substance beyond that, and we get deals like this that happen with little to no scrutiny.
Sure you can run a campaign this way. You say you won't raise taxes.....then play stupid that you don't understand math.......then have the city council pass the budget and make them raise taxes......then you can say you never raised taxes, personally.....because, well you didn't.....and people love this type of leadership.....because they NEVER take responsibility for their own actions.
Evidently, this is the site of their proposed 200,000 square foot cancer center, which is expected to be completed in 2017:
http://residentnews.net/2015/05/03/bulldozers-clear-baptist-md-anderson-cancer-center/
Quote from: thelakelander on April 30, 2015, 12:19:12 PM
Baptist Health owns everything on that block except the the building on the corner of Nira and San Marco Boulevard. Most of it is an odd shaped dirt parking lot.
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Wow, 200,000 sq ft... That's gonna be a nice mid-rise/10ish story unless they sprawl it out across the entire block.
They don't own the entire block, so assuming they built to the property lines on the entire site (highly doubtful), they'd have roughly 86,000 square feet per floor to play with. A building that size would need service areas, drop off zones, parking for employees, patients, etc. So yes, we're probably looking at a decent sized mid-rise structure. For comparisons sake, the 339,404-square foot J. Wayne and Delores Barr Weaver Tower is 11-stories. Depending on how parking is handled this project will probably be in the five to ten story range.
FYI got an e-mail from the Y yesterday that said they will finally begin construction this month, with an estimated finish time of 15 months. :)
Great!
Didn't realize this tread changed. Here is the 100,000 MD Anderson in NJ. 4 stories
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It didn't change. There are two threads. One is specifically for the cancer center and this one is a general construction/development update thread.
Quote from: thelakelander on May 04, 2015, 11:46:29 PM
They don't own the entire block, so assuming they built to the property lines on the entire site (highly doubtful), they'd have roughly 86,000 square feet per floor to play with. A building that size would need service areas, drop off zones, parking for employees, patients, etc. So yes, we're probably looking at a decent sized mid-rise structure. For comparisons sake, the 339,404-square foot J. Wayne and Delores Barr Weaver Tower is 11-stories. Depending on how parking is handled this project will probably be in the five to ten story range.
Not to get anyone's hopes up for a skyscraper but they just put 389K office in 27 stories/380 ft here in SF and nearby they are putting 411K sf in the lower 550 ft of an 802 ft skyscraper. Tiny floor plates for boutique office though, not medical use. This could easily be a 5-6+ story building, but that would still be quite visible for Jax.
Quote from: fieldafm on April 30, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on April 30, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: acme54321 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:01 AM
220 and Brooklyn Riverside sure turned out a lot more "blah" than the renderings.
What don't you like about them? They are very urban in design and fit into the area very well.
220 Doesn't have the big eaves that are shown on the rendering and the colors are a lot more subdued. Brooklyn riverside is painted all doctors office beige, compare that to the renderings they've put out which was a lot more eye catching (some might argue in a bad way but I liked it)
The pictures in the article show units that haven't been painted yet. The Brooklyn Riverside units that are open and occupied are painted exactly like the rendering.
If we are on the subject of color schemes... not only is the taxpayer-subsidized Parador parking garage that allowed a private landowner to flip a property for millions a bad thing fundamentally for downtown on such prime space (the retail will likely never be built now that there is a new ownership group), the half-@ssed pinkish color scheme is atrocious.
The new garage downtown is despicable and gives me little hope for this city. Sorry for being dramatic.
Quote from: fieldafm on April 30, 2015, 12:18:03 PM
Pretty sure the lot will be used for parking.
Aw darn. I guess I can see the need, from a business owner perspective. But I do love the idea of it being an outdoor space - picnic tables, cornhole, volleyball nets?? :D
^BoldCityRealist, it's going to be used as the site of the new Baptist-MD Anderson Cancer Center. It should be a decent sized building since they want it to be around 200k square feet.