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Title: Living in Springfield
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on January 31, 2015, 03:00:04 AM
Living in Springfield

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From EU Jacksonville and written by Shannon Blankinship. Some of the best things about Springfield.

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Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: jaxjaguar on February 04, 2015, 01:52:49 AM
Does anyone know anything about May Mann Jennings park? I always see it on Google maps and it looks huge, but I can find virtually no information about it... Is it nice / safe? Is it open to the public?
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 06:13:02 AM
Quote from: jaxjaguar on February 04, 2015, 01:52:49 AM
Does anyone know anything about May Mann Jennings park? I always see it on Google maps and it looks huge, but I can find virtually no information about it... Is it nice / safe? Is it open to the public?

No idea.

That's not in SPR.

Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: ChriswUfGator on February 04, 2015, 07:56:37 AM
Quote from: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 06:13:02 AM
Quote from: jaxjaguar on February 04, 2015, 01:52:49 AM
Does anyone know anything about May Mann Jennings park? I always see it on Google maps and it looks huge, but I can find virtually no information about it... Is it nice / safe? Is it open to the public?

No idea.

That's not in SPR.



Always so helpful to the neighbors...
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: strider on February 04, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
Some of us are....

It is 22.66 acres and is listed as undeveloped. I drive by it almost daily and had no idea it was actually a park! The google map I saw if it makes it look as if it includes the entire Evergreen Cemetery so I wonder if part of the original park is gone or can the area on the upper right hand corner of the map be 22 plus acres? In any case, the right up below is from the city site and indicates that once it was truly a nicely done park but has now been pretty much forgotten. It is not in Springfield but is certainly close enough to be or rather to have been part of the "Emerald Necklace".  In fact, in the street car days, it might have been a popular destination.

QuoteMay Mann Jennings Park is located in north Jacksonville, southeast of Evergreen Cemetery, which was established in 1880. The City acquired most of the property in 1921-22, and it originally comprised part of Long Branch Park. Following extensive work by the Works Progress Administration, a lovely new park opened in 1940, named for May Mann Jennings (1873-1963), the wife of former Florida governor William S. Jennings. After moving to Jacksonville in 1905, she devoted the remainder of her life to local and state activism, becoming one of Florida's most influential women. She worked tirelessly for the conservation of public lands in the state, headed the Florida Federation of Women's Clubs, was co-founder of the Florida League of Women Voters, and much more. In recent years, the park grounds have been returned to a natural, undeveloped state.

Link to map:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/May+Mann+Jennings+Park/@30.369259,-81.640838,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x43f628d5f34b7ac9
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: acme54321 on February 04, 2015, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: stephendare on February 04, 2015, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 06:13:02 AM
Quote from: jaxjaguar on February 04, 2015, 01:52:49 AM
Does anyone know anything about May Mann Jennings park? I always see it on Google maps and it looks huge, but I can find virtually no information about it... Is it nice / safe? Is it open to the public?

No idea.

That's not in SPR.

you mean its not in Historic Springfield.  Which was a designation of the squarish area where the city set its sites on redeveloping back in the 1980s

More than half of Sprigfield isn't in Historic Springfield.

May Mann Jennings Park was a pretty glorious WPA project named in honor of the gorgeous and brilliant woman who helped to create modern Jacksonville.  It had greek design elements all the way through it, including a gorgeous outdoor amphitheater, for performances and concerts.

It was however abandoned by the city as the area became primarily black and was simply allowed to be 'reclaimed' by the wilderness..

Ive been out through that park in the woods and its southern gothic at its finest

Is it still there?
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: acme54321 on February 04, 2015, 10:04:40 AM
Do you have an address?  Or intersection it's at?  I like that kind of thing and looked it up but even on old aerial images it show nothing where the COJ and Google Maps indicate the park is at.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Tacachale on February 04, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Oh, I've been there. I didn't realize it wasn't part of the cemetery. It's pretty cool to see. Man, if that's a park we really need to take advantage of it.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: IrvAdams on February 04, 2015, 12:47:44 PM
Wow - I grew up in that neighborhood, not 1 mile from there, and never realized that was a park. Thanks so much for the information!
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: thelakelander on February 04, 2015, 12:59:03 PM
Sounds like we need to do a photo tour of the ruins.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Gunnar on February 04, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 04, 2015, 12:59:03 PM
Sounds like we need to do a photo tour of the ruins.

Please do !

:)
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: 02roadking on February 04, 2015, 01:26:38 PM
That's pretty interesting. I'll check that out Saturday afternoon...should be nice out that day.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: stephendare on February 04, 2015, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 06:13:02 AM
Quote from: jaxjaguar on February 04, 2015, 01:52:49 AM
Does anyone know anything about May Mann Jennings park? I always see it on Google maps and it looks huge, but I can find virtually no information about it... Is it nice / safe? Is it open to the public?

No idea.

That's not in SPR.

you mean its not in Historic Springfield.  Which was a designation of the squarish area where the city set its sites on redeveloping back in the 1980s

More than half of Sprigfield isn't in Historic Springfield.


That park is up near 40th Street. Not in SPR at all, historic district or not.

Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: Apache on February 04, 2015, 05:03:17 PM
According to the map on the SPAR website, the park is about a 6 minute bike ride from what SPAR defines as the border of Springfield. Certainly close enough to ask the initial question in a topic called Living in Springfield, in my opinion.

But if one wants to make it snobbishly clear that you have "no idea" about things "outside" Springfield, even if it's walking distance away, mission accomplished.

Many people, including some local media, lump huge swaths of the area north of Downtown into SPR, when they're not. Just clarifying that that neck of woods has is its own neighborhood and has its own identity. We see Brooklyn & Riverside getting mixed up these days, and lakelander just posted excellent articles on the forgotten Mixon Town and Sugar Hill areas. It's important not to forget that each area is unique, so I'm a bit of an accuracy nut when it comes to neighborhoods (my brother still gets pissed when I correct him in saying he lives in Miramar, not San Marco).

Or, call me names. I'm good either way : )
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: IrvAdams on February 04, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
Well, what is that area called? Around Evergreen Cemetery, I mean. The area roughly from Andrew Jackson High going north up to North Shore Elementary, along Main street.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Bill Hoff on February 04, 2015, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: IrvAdams on February 04, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
Well, what is that area called? Around Evergreen Cemetery, I mean. The area roughly from Andrew Jackson High going north up to North Shore Elementary, along Main street.

Not sure. The neighborhood "welcome" sign going north on Main, just past 20th Street, says Metro North. But, I think that's a bit of revisionist branding as well.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: thelakelander on February 04, 2015, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: IrvAdams on February 04, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
Well, what is that area called? Around Evergreen Cemetery, I mean. The area roughly from Andrew Jackson High going north up to North Shore Elementary, along Main street.

The neighborhood is Longbranch.

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/821694473_swSGG-M.jpg)

QuoteAlong with Brentwood, Panama Park, Tallulah and North Shore, Longbranch is a part of an area known as Metro North. The neighborhood of Longbranch was platted in the late 1800s by James Jaquelin Daniel.  Col. J.J. Daniel was an early philanthropist, city leader and president of the Jacksonville Cemetery Association. Under Daniel's leadership, the cemetery association would establish the nearby Evergreen Cemetery in 1880.

During Longbranch's early years, development was dominated by a mix sparsely located single-family residences and isolated industrial uses. After the Great Fire of 1901, the area saw an influx in residential growth, as Jacksonville's population increased dramatically in the early 20th century. Like several early suburbs, Longbranch also benefited from the presence of the Jacksonville Traction Company.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-apr-urban-neighborhoods-longbranch
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: strider on February 05, 2015, 08:14:05 AM
SPAR Council has a tendency to be somewhat isolationist for some reason and tries to keep information private and to block out all that is not Historic Springfield.  It is a bad policy but one they and their most stanch supporters have embraced for decades. It is also at least part of the reason the community's revitalization stumbles more often than not. I believe the fates of all the communities that make up the Main Street corridor are linked together and what happens in one area will effect the health of the others. 

The area between 12th street and 20th street has been called New Springfield by most during the 16 years I've been here. It is also my understanding that initially it was thought that the Historic District should be from 1st to 20th and perhaps it should have been that way.  It contains many great houses, most of which have the potential to rival the best in Springfield and even Avondale as they were built during the same time frame. 

The area on the map that is called Northshore/ Talulah is often broken down further.  For instance, Northshore is considered by most to be only the area from Pearl street to the Trout river west, north of Tallulah.  The area south of Tallulah is often called Northview.  Part of that area is also called Pearl Court - I'm sure what the original developer named it - the area that is a Boulevard on Pearl.  While many may feel some of that area is not very nice, there are sections that back up to the river and creeks and are as beautiful as any other river side area in Jacksonville.

What a loss the May Mann Jennings Park is as it could easily be connected to the Greenway (the correct name for the trail?) - I also know some who run and bike between Downtown and the Trout River so I would imagine the park would get used more than some would think.

While I know that what once connected those communities was street car, in today's world, the car keeps them even closer and more dependent upon each other for true success.  Just an average Joe's opinion, of course.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: JaxUnicorn on February 05, 2015, 11:57:05 PM
This is a very cool thing!!  I had no idea there was this much land available as a park so close.  I remember driving through this area one day and noticing all the woods and thinking it was quite peaceful, right next to Evergreen Cemetary.  I'm not really sure what "neighborhood" this is in since it seems to be in an unmarked area right between LongBranch and Panama Park. 

Anyway, here's the land associated with the park according to the Property Appraiser's office.  There is also a building on the land somewhere....a roughly 3,500 sq ft "Municipal Building".  The address is listed as 5301 Buffalo Avenue.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/JaxUnicorn/May%20Mann%20Jennings%20Park.jpg)
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: IrvAdams on February 06, 2015, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 04, 2015, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: IrvAdams on February 04, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
Well, what is that area called? Around Evergreen Cemetery, I mean. The area roughly from Andrew Jackson High going north up to North Shore Elementary, along Main street.

The neighborhood is Longbranch.

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/821694473_swSGG-M.jpg)

QuoteAlong with Brentwood, Panama Park, Tallulah and North Shore, Longbranch is a part of an area known as Metro North. The neighborhood of Longbranch was platted in the late 1800s by James Jaquelin Daniel.  Col. J.J. Daniel was an early philanthropist, city leader and president of the Jacksonville Cemetery Association. Under Daniel's leadership, the cemetery association would establish the nearby Evergreen Cemetery in 1880.

During Longbranch's early years, development was dominated by a mix sparsely located single-family residences and isolated industrial uses. After the Great Fire of 1901, the area saw an influx in residential growth, as Jacksonville's population increased dramatically in the early 20th century. Like several early suburbs, Longbranch also benefited from the presence of the Jacksonville Traction Company.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-apr-urban-neighborhoods-longbranch

Supercool link and story, Lake. I grew up in Panama Park and even then (more years back than I care to think about) no one could have told you that these parks were there. And now I see that there is (or was) a Cemetery Park also.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: thelakelander on February 07, 2015, 02:25:33 PM
Here's an aerial of Mary Mann Jennings Park in 1952. Any idea of where structures in the park may have been located?

I'd like to get some pics but other than a footbridge to an island that doesn't exist anymore, I don't see anything significant.

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Historic-Jacksonville-Aerials/i-m4HwfBM/0/X2/Mary%20Mann%20Jennings%20Park%20-%201952-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: Debbie Thompson on February 08, 2015, 01:34:40 PM
While May Mann Jennings Park may not be in what is now known as Historic Springfield, it definitely has a Springfield connection.  May Mann Jennings lived in what is now the Springfield Historic District.  She was the president of the Springfield Improvement Association on two separate occasions.  When I was president of SIA, I wanted the club and community to get involved in restoring the much neglected and forgotten park dedicated to that amazing woman and former president of the club.  Didn't happen, unfortunately, but I still think May Mann Jennings deserves to have her park restored.

May Mann Jennings was an influential and powerful woman of her time. Jennings was the First Lady of the former governor of Florida, William S, Jennings, from 1901 to 1905. Not only were she and organizer for The County's Federation of Women's Clubs and the president of the Florida Federation of Women's Clubs as well. Jennings used her power and influence to motivate the network of women's clubs in order to fight for pressing issues such as environmental conservation stock fence laws, state parks, women's suffrage, education reforms and improvement in welfare, such as child welfare and compulsory education. Other issues she concerned herself with were the State Library of Florida and the reservations for the Seminoles, the Native Americans of Florida.

After her husband died, Jennings's work continued as she became the co-founder of the Florida Chapter of the League of Women Voters. She helped campaigned by speaking about things such as prohibition, better treatment of children and prisoners. She also crusaded for improvements in public welfare, education reforms and funding, the historic preservation and the beautification of the highways. She also was involved in campaign drives with her women's groups that lobbied legislators and other organizations for their assistance. 

Jennings was also able to help acquire 1,800 acres of unprotected land and turn it into the Royal Palm State Park, which is now known as part of the Everglades National Park. Jennings is also known to some as the "Mother of Florida Forestry," because of her great efforts and promotion in acquiring the legislative act that helped create an important environmental organization known as the "Florida State Board of Forestry", which is now known as the "Division of Forestry." Her extensive work as a conservationist and activist didn't go unnoticed; she has been well recognized for her efforts. Jennings was a very well educated woman who graduated as valedictorian of her class, and learned from assisting her father in his campaign for Florida State Senate.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: DDC on February 09, 2015, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: JaxUnicorn on February 05, 2015, 11:57:05 PM

Anyway, here's the land associated with the park according to the Property Appraiser's office.  There is also a building on the land somewhere....a roughly 3,500 sq ft "Municipal Building".  The address is listed as 5301 Buffalo Avenue.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/JaxUnicorn/May%20Mann%20Jennings%20Park.jpg)

I went over there yesterday and drove around and got out and walked round a bit. The Building up there is right at the intersection of Evergreen and Buffalo. It is a JEA lift station.  There is a cleared area with the standard city park rules listed. Looks to be 1-2 acres and backs up to Longbranch Creek.

I noticed a foot path right in the first curve of Evergreen after you come off of Buffalo. It is across from the JEA concrete pole marked 5000. It went over a small ditch with some plywood thrown down to cross it. After getting over it I started to find shopping carts, chairs, some clothes and off about 100' I could see a blue tarp so I was pretty sure I was coming up on a homeless camp. Being alone and no protection with me I decided not to go any farther.

I really would like to explore that park and try and find the ruins if their is anything left of them.
Title: Re: Living in Springfield
Post by: JaxUnicorn on February 09, 2015, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: DDC on February 09, 2015, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: JaxUnicorn on February 05, 2015, 11:57:05 PM

Anyway, here's the land associated with the park according to the Property Appraiser's office.  There is also a building on the land somewhere....a roughly 3,500 sq ft "Municipal Building".  The address is listed as 5301 Buffalo Avenue.

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/JaxUnicorn/May%20Mann%20Jennings%20Park.jpg)

I went over there yesterday and drove around and got out and walked round a bit. The Building up there is right at the intersection of Evergreen and Buffalo. It is a JEA lift station.  There is a cleared area with the standard city park rules listed. Looks to be 1-2 acres and backs up to Longbranch Creek.

I noticed a foot path right in the first curve of Evergreen after you come off of Buffalo. It is across from the JEA concrete pole marked 5000. It went over a small ditch with some plywood thrown down to cross it. After getting over it I started to find shopping carts, chairs, some clothes and off about 100' I could see a blue tarp so I was pretty sure I was coming up on a homeless camp. Being alone and no protection with me I decided not to go any farther.

I really would like to explore that park and try and find the ruins if their is anything left of them.

I'd LOVE to go exploring in the area and have not because I don't want to tempt fate going alone.  Let me know when you wanna go and we'll go!  Even though I have protection I'd prefer to have someone else with me.  :)