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Community => Politics => Municipal Elections of 2015 => Topic started by: -jerrycornwell on January 22, 2015, 08:28:28 PM

Title: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: -jerrycornwell on January 22, 2015, 08:28:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llaQqVUSy68&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: coredumped on January 22, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
Not bad. Better than the other guy, who all we know about him is his parents like him.
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: mtraininjax on January 23, 2015, 05:31:51 AM
QuoteNot bad. Better than the other guy, who all we know about him is his parents like him.

Bill Bishop's Press Manager will be contacting you asking for an apology!  :o
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: -jerrycornwell on January 23, 2015, 11:44:06 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on January 23, 2015, 05:31:51 AM
QuoteNot bad. Better than the other guy, who all we know about him is his parents like him.

Bill Bishop's Press Manager will be contacting you asking for an apology!  :o
Booooom!
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: neptune on January 23, 2015, 06:35:57 PM
Four years in office and his claim to success is that he didn't raise taxes and cut government jobs.  That's a pretty sad record of accomplishment.  Of course, at least he has held an elected position, more than another candidate can say.
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2015, 08:09:29 PM
Neptune.  Bill Bishop who is running for mayor is currently sitting in an elected legislative position as a member of city council.  In fact his time in elected office is greater than that of Alvin Brown.  The two other candidates for mayor have not held elected local office.  First Lenny Curry who is claiming to be a political outsider but in fact long held the "appointed" position as Chairman for the State GOP.  Simply put he is no outsider to politics but has no experience in local government workings.  The other candidate and Omega Allen NPA also has not held an elected office.
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2015, 08:17:12 PM
To the statement that Brown did not raise taxes, technically he did not but in reality he forced that decision onto our city legislators on the council when he failed repeatedly to submit a viable or balanced budget.  He let them do the dirty work but it was his failure to come up with a viable budget that created the need for the tax hike in order to keep the city up and running.  As far as his pay promise, he did keep that but did not comment about whether or not he is still not in the pension plan.  Upon his election last go round after promising not to take a pension he filled out the paperwork to get into the pension program and abandoned that effort when media made the fact known.  I wonder if that has changed and if it hasn't why he made no mention of that in his ad?   
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: neptune on January 23, 2015, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2015, 08:09:29 PM
Neptune.  Bill Bishop who is running for mayor is currently sitting in an elected legislative position as a member of city council.  In fact his time in elected office is greater than that of Alvin Brown.  The two other candidates for mayor have not held elected local office.  First Lenny Curry who is claiming to be a political outsider but in fact long held the "appointed" position as Chairman for the State GOP.  Simply put he is not outsider to politics but has no experience in local government workings.  The other candidate and Omega Allen NPA also has not held an elected office.

Former Chairman Curry was the "another candidate" I was referencing who has never held an elected public office.  A political insider of the highest order, but never elected to a public office. 
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: -jerrycornwell on January 24, 2015, 12:17:35 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on January 23, 2015, 08:17:12 PM
To the statement that Brown did not raise taxes, technically he did not but in reality he forced that decision onto our city legislators on the council when he failed repeatedly to submit a viable or balanced budget.  He let them do the dirty work but it was his failure to come up with a viable budget that created the need for the tax hike in order to keep the city up and running.  As far as his pay promise, he did keep that but did not comment about whether or not he is still not in the pension plan.  Upon his election last go round after promising not to take a pension he filled out the paperwork to get into the pension program and abandoned that effort when media made the fact known.  I wonder if that has changed and if it hasn't why he made no mention of that in his ad?   
Everybody just get out there and vote!
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: Cheshire Cat on January 24, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Absolutely Jerry, people need to engage in the process and vote.  Better still is that they take the time to become informed voters.  Many in Jacksonville need to understand that when we vote for an individual to represent our city and our needs, that vote cannot be made based upon their "charisma" but rather based upon their competence, experience and ability to lead.  In tandem with that it is paramount that people understand the political dynamics in Jacksonville that surround our unitary election process.  Those dynamics for the power players in our city are anything but unitary and instead are politically driven based upon party affiliation. That is particularly problematic in Jacksonville because of it's size and importance to those who continue to work at maintaining political control of our state.  Right now Jacksonville is still under the influence of a group of individuals who wield power and money and as such are currently still behind our political process in a very big way.  At some juncture I hope the voters will begin to understand that our elected officials should indeed behave in a unitary fashion and represent all in Jacksonville equally.  The question then becomes who is pulling the strings and how to recognize it?  Let me give you a single hint to begin with.  Look to the Civic Council and influence in our Chamber and how well that influence is managed by the GOP.  Also look to the Democrat held districts, the make up of those and queen bee Corrine Brown to see who is pulling the strings there and who does so with the happy conciliation of powerful GOP players along with some Dem players who simply want to see a Democrat, any Democrat in office.  Know the game and how it is rigged.  Once you know that, you can vote accordingly.  Currently in the race for mayor there is a single viable and informed candidate who is not being manipulated by either party.  Focus on what that person has to say and why the major party players would have that person ignored during debates and by media at these early stages.  It has to do with their ability to influence and control that person to their own agenda's.  The one who will not go along to get along is the one that should be put into leadership. 
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: I-10east on February 03, 2015, 11:33:32 PM
Some of yall may have seen Lenny Curry's anti-Brown ad (still picture below). Let the political mud slinging begin...

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/5548
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: I-10east on February 09, 2015, 10:31:54 PM
Here's the mayors latest ad, referencing wallethub.com rating Jax as the #1 city to start a new business, and the city getting 36,000 new jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1OG4l-ujh0
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: Cheshire Cat on February 10, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
And those 36,000 jobs are?  :) 
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: tufsu1 on February 10, 2015, 02:17:43 PM
^ check the unemployment data Diane....or the Bureau of Labor Statistics (referenced in the ad)...they are pretty reputable you know.

and yes, politicians always take credit for stuff like this (see Gov. Scott and President Obama).
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: Cheshire Cat on February 10, 2015, 04:35:49 PM
I know they do tufsu1  Alvin Brown presents.....(insert accomplishment of others here).  :) 
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: I-10east on February 11, 2015, 10:50:12 PM
The official tally of jobs added from November 2011 to November 2014 is +36, 157 jobs.

QuoteAd supporting Brown: "Jobs" is a 30-second television spot paid for by the Florida Democratic Party.

Script: "Under Alvin Brown, Jacksonville is the No. 1 place to start a new business," the narrator says as the screen shows WalletHub.com ranked Jacksonville the best place to start a business. The ad cuts to Brown saying, "I'll work with anyone to bring jobs to Jacksonville — 36,000 new jobs and we're just getting started." The ad also features people exclaiming Jacksonville is "No. 1" and that 36,000 is a lot of jobs.

Analysis: The ads link Brown's performance as mayor to the economic recovery that has occurred since he took office.

The ad accurately states the top ranking given to Jacksonville by WalletHub, an online site that provides financial information to consumers and small businesses. In a list released in March 2014, WalletHub ranked Jacksonville No. 1 among 150 cities for the "Best Cities to Start a Business."

Jacksonville did not rank well in other WalletHub lists regarding economic activity. Jacksonville ranked 124th out of 150 cities for recovering from the Great Recession. Jacksonville ranked 49th out of 150 cities for the best city to find a job and 116th for the best city to start a career.

For the survey of best cities to start small businesses, WalletHub used 14 criteria such as access to financing, cost of office space, availability of employees, number of businesses per capita, local cost of living and corporate taxes.

Brown's ad highlights 36,000 new jobs and cites the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The comparison is between November 2011, which is the month after Brown's first city budget took effect, and November 2014.

According to "local area unemployment statistics" compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Jacksonville had employment of 376,748 in November 2011 and that grew to 412,905 in November 2014, which is a gain of 36,157 jobs.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-02-11/story/campaign-ad-watch-mayor-says-jacksonville-no-1-place-start-job
Title: Re: Alvin Brown Political Ad
Post by: Cheshire Cat on February 12, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: I-10east on February 11, 2015, 10:50:12 PM
The official tally of jobs added from November 2011 to November 2014 is +36, 157 jobs.

QuoteAd supporting Brown: "Jobs" is a 30-second television spot paid for by the Florida Democratic Party.

Script: "Under Alvin Brown, Jacksonville is the No. 1 place to start a new business," the narrator says as the screen shows WalletHub.com ranked Jacksonville the best place to start a business. The ad cuts to Brown saying, "I'll work with anyone to bring jobs to Jacksonville — 36,000 new jobs and we're just getting started." The ad also features people exclaiming Jacksonville is "No. 1" and that 36,000 is a lot of jobs.

Analysis: The ads link Brown's performance as mayor to the economic recovery that has occurred since he took office.

The ad accurately states the top ranking given to Jacksonville by WalletHub, an online site that provides financial information to consumers and small businesses. In a list released in March 2014, WalletHub ranked Jacksonville No. 1 among 150 cities for the "Best Cities to Start a Business."

Jacksonville did not rank well in other WalletHub lists regarding economic activity. Jacksonville ranked 124th out of 150 cities for recovering from the Great Recession. Jacksonville ranked 49th out of 150 cities for the best city to find a job and 116th for the best city to start a career.

For the survey of best cities to start small businesses, WalletHub used 14 criteria such as access to financing, cost of office space, availability of employees, number of businesses per capita, local cost of living and corporate taxes.

Brown's ad highlights 36,000 new jobs and cites the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The comparison is between November 2011, which is the month after Brown's first city budget took effect, and November 2014.

According to "local area unemployment statistics" compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Jacksonville had employment of 376,748 in November 2011 and that grew to 412,905 in November 2014, which is a gain of 36,157 jobs.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-02-11/story/campaign-ad-watch-mayor-says-jacksonville-no-1-place-start-job
Note:  The statement above highlights when "Browns" first budget took effect.  Brown had no real budget his first cycle in office, nor a second or third for that matter.  The budget process was forwarded by default/incompetence to the city council.  That is where the real budgets were formed.  Brown and his supporters are simply tagging the organic growth to our area of which he and his policies played no part and rather are the result of a national trend under Obama.  Looks like they are tagging a line from Rick Scotts playbook, which is claim for yourself all progress in the state or county regardless.  I would like a listing of all the agreements brokered by Brown that brought business to our city at his urging, not including efforts that targeted Jacksonville for their own reasons like the port, weather or local. That would be a realistic measure.