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Title: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on May 27, 2008, 04:00:00 AM
The Southbank Riverwalk

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-4996-p1100279.JPG)

The Jake Godbold administration labeled the 1980’s as 'The Billion Dollar Decade' for downtown redevelopment.  One of the major projects planned and constructed during this era was the Southbank Riverwalk, which opened in 1985.  

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/799
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Coolyfett on May 27, 2008, 07:22:16 AM
Interesting....Jax sure had some big thoughts back in 85. I always say Godbold was one of the best Jax had. Him and Delaney had vision IMO.

Lake you be digging your butt off man....Some of those spots I have never seen before. And ive been on that SouthBank walk many times...lol
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: heights unknown on May 27, 2008, 08:15:30 AM
Yeah, "Jake the Snake" was good back then, but ah, what could have been!  You don't do a job halfway and leave it, you finish it.  I am not dissing Jake cause I liked him too (and his "good ole boys gang" back then), but he did let some things slip through the crack, that is, starting them and not seeing them through to completion.

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Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Pavers on May 27, 2008, 08:29:12 AM
Any idea what's up with the Amredo's cafe that's purportedly to open in the shops by the Wyndham?  That sign has been up for several months now.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: thelakelander on May 27, 2008, 08:41:08 AM
I'm not sure.  The sign looked to be pretty dated, but the interior work looked recent.  I know the hotel had kicked all the tenants out a few years back because they wanted to tear everything down for their failed condo project (San Marco Village).  I wish they would go ahead and re-lease them, because those condos won't be coming anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: I-10east on May 27, 2008, 09:16:59 AM
Great tour Lake.

I have a feeling that if the entire Southside Riverwalk plan was built, it would've been just another thing that's overlooked and taken for granted in this city. Look at the Landing in 87'; that was supposed to be the "end all be all" to of Jax's downtown's problems, and IMO it was a far more substanial project than the entire Southbank riverwalk; Now outside of special events every blue moon, the Landing is basically forgotten. The aquarium would've been interesting, but any failure to expand likely could've cause people to be disinterested. As far as I'm concerned DT Jax already have plenty of lawns, seating etc at Metro Park. As for the additional restaurants, Crawdaddy's closed so no telling if they would've been around. Just my two cents.       
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: JeffreyS on May 27, 2008, 09:21:49 AM
 ^Saturday afternoon I went for a boat ride from Ortega though downtown gawking at all of the new buildings. We stopped for Ice cream at the landing and it was very busy.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: I-10east on May 27, 2008, 09:32:39 AM
^^That sounds like a fun and relaxing afternoon. Was a special event being held at the Landing?
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Charleston native on May 27, 2008, 11:12:42 AM
Seeing those pictures just gives me warm memories of when my family and I first toured downtown Jax around '89. I was a freshman in high school, and I remember thinking how scenic and fun it was on the Landing and Southbank. Arrrgghh!! Stuff like that makes me WANT to live there. I'm tired of being in landlocked Cola!!
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: vicupstate on May 27, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
Well, in '89 the Southbank Riverwalk was fresh and new, as was the Landing.  Unfortunately both are in need of a MAJOR remodel/renovation/freshening up.   Not likely to happen soon though.  You can add Friendship Fpuntain to that list too. 
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Charleston native on May 27, 2008, 02:17:17 PM
Vic, they probably need refurbishment and renovation, but from the photos, I have to say that the area is still a great asset. It looks in pretty good shape. Maybe you have some pretty high standards? Hey, that's a good thing, though! If it needs to be renovated to set a high standard of a quality downtown area, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: jeh1980 on May 27, 2008, 10:28:28 PM
I think that the Riverwalk could sure use a nice coat of Thompson's Water Seal right about now :D! The Riverwalk is still a great way to see the downtown's Northbank, though.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: thelakelander on May 27, 2008, 10:42:41 PM
Here's an image of the western portion of the original Southbank Riverwalk plan.  As mentioned in the article, many focal points like the aquarium, Under-the-Bridge Cafe and the Great Lawn were never built. 

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/riverwalk/SouthbankRiverwalk-FriendshipFountain.jpg)
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: copperfiend on May 29, 2008, 05:36:31 AM
An aquarium makes too much sense for Jacksonville.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Charleston native on May 29, 2008, 08:44:15 AM
Does anybody think that in the future, some city leaders might step up and "finish" these original plans? Or is it too late to think optimistically for that?
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: copperfiend on May 29, 2008, 12:17:09 PM
I doubt the plans would ever truly be finished. I would hope that an aquarium would be built in downtown Jax at some point maybe not in that exact spot. But I don't see the ampitheater happening there.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: jeh1980 on May 29, 2008, 04:11:59 PM
Quote from: Charleston native on May 29, 2008, 08:44:15 AM
Does anybody think that in the future, some city leaders might step up and "finish" these original plans? Or is it too late to think optimistically for that?
We don't need to think that it's too late for ANYTHING! I think it would be awesome to finish those original plans within reason. 8)
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Lunican on May 30, 2008, 07:24:48 AM
QuoteLet's upgrade riverwalk in time for 25th anniversary

By RON LITTLEPAGE
The Times-Union
May 30, 2008

The Southbank Riverwalk is showing its age.

The riverwalk opened with great fanfare in 1985 when Jake Godbold was mayor.

While a welcome amenity for the city, it has never quite lived up to its potential.

With commitment and creativity, we can change that. And why not get it done in time to commemorate the riverwalk's 25th anniversary in 2010?

Thursday morning was one of those nice late spring days when the sky is blue and the temperature still not too hot.

The river was smooth, and a group of manatees that passed by was an extra treat.

I met Mayor John Peyton on the Southbank to talk about various subjects, with one of them being the riverwalk.

The riverwalk's boards are cracked and uneven and dingy. The pavilions need work. I knew Peyton wants to improve the Southbank Riverwalk, and he reminded me that $15 million was in the capital projects budget to do that.

Peyton envisions vast improvements to the area around Friendship Fountain and bringing life back to the entire riverwalk. He doubts that $15 million will be enough to do that.

I made a suggestion:

Get the people of Jacksonville involved. Invite architects, engineers and builders to come up with designs and plans to make the Southbank Riverwalk the jewel it should be, pro bono, of course, as a gift to the city.

Have a contest to choose the winner and get people excited about what the riverwalk can become.

Full Article:
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/053008/opl_284245489.shtml
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: copperfiend on May 30, 2008, 07:37:21 AM
I hope Littlepage isn't holding his breath.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Charleston native on May 30, 2008, 09:06:19 AM
I have a problem with a contest for community input into this project--I know, it sounds bad to say that, but let me explain why I have a problem. Many times, whatever gets chosen as the winning design is often unimaginative and mediocre. Usually, whoever judges the entries has the final word of approval, and if the design isn't really conducive to satisfying the needs of the park, it will be changed or forgotten completely.

Why not use the original plans as a foundation for getting the park renovated by 2010? You might not get the ampitheater built, but maybe the aquarium plans can be revitalized. Get the fountain spouting water 150 feet high like it's supposed to. I would have more ideas, but I need to get back to work.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Driven1 on May 30, 2008, 09:20:49 AM
life will not be brought "back to the riverwalk" until people actually live downtown.  littlepage never writes about this though.  how much of an environmentalist is he if he has to spend $10 in gas round trip to get downtown to the southbank?
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: vicupstate on May 30, 2008, 09:57:40 AM
Since these 'plans' were developed, both Charleston and Tampa have built Acquariums.   They are quite expensive to build and maintain.  Ticket prices push $20 per person.  After an initial novelty has worn off, it would probably struggle IMO.

The time to build an acquarium was then, the train has left the station on that idea.  A new, more original, attraction is needed. 

I also agree wholeheartedly that until people are living on the Southbank, that it will not reach it's potential.

Littlepage's comments echo my own that this area is looking tired and worn.   
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Traveller on May 30, 2008, 10:43:44 AM
Any update on the Navy warship proposal?
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: thelakelander on May 30, 2008, 10:46:10 AM
I agree with Charleston native, no new grand scale design competition is needed.  Don't make things more complicated and expensive then they need to be.  All we need to do is dust off the major theme of the old plan and revise a few components where necessary.  For example, an aquarium may be out of date, but a larger maritime, history museum or MOSH can take its place and still be a destination anchor for that general location.  

The Under-the-Bridge cafe may not make much sense, but a cafe in a revitalized park (with a great lawn and picnic facilities) around a fixed Friendship Fountain may be a more viable use.  So in the end, the same master plan is carried out, despite a few of the components being changed out for other reasons.

Also, we need to provide better access to the Southbank Riverwalk, especially around Riverplace Tower.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Gamblor on February 16, 2015, 03:11:25 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 30, 2008, 10:46:10 AM
an aquarium may be out of date, but a larger maritime, history museum or MOSH can take its place and still be a destination anchor for that general location.

I've been seeing a lot cities putting in Museums of Technology and Industry recently. Part of me thinks MoTIs might be the next rage like aquariums were in the 90's. I maybe bias though as I've been addicted to tech since I was plopped in front of a black screen with green text back in the 80's. Also love that the ones I've attend seem extremely active in the community with regular, free to limited cost classes, and don't just serve as a place for a daylong field trip (though their good for that too)

Think of the companies and industries that be great to get involved and highlight too. CSX, Sally, Web.com, Northrop Grumans, Georgia Pacific, GE..........
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on February 26, 2015, 12:23:53 AM
12 hours out from the ribbon cutting ceremony for the NEW $17,000,000 Southbank Riverwalk 2014-190. Starts at 12 pm at Friendship Fountain. This is another significant piece of Jacksonville's history. Hope Ennis and Field and others can take lots of pictures and make it.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on February 26, 2015, 07:59:13 AM
4 hours out from the ribbon cutting ceremony of the NEW Southbank Riverwalk. Anyone going? I can't wait.

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Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on December 09, 2015, 06:37:38 PM
Big discussion today at the 12/9/15 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting on the Wreck of the Lady St. Johns. If not gone by Dec. Then will be on the agenda for the next meeting.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on January 08, 2016, 02:41:43 AM
The Southbank Riverwalk 2014-190 at the DCPS building next to the JEA (District) 2015-777 property can have the Tom Ingram ADA Watercraft hand launch parking spot as a FIND (Florida Inland Navigation District) project. OUR property tax money. This project was voted on at the 11/20/15 FIND meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission that took place on the 4 th floor of city hall.

The Governor of the state of Florida Rick Scott is aware of this positive project.
Beth Meyer Chief of disabled services at the 1/4/16 Finance meeting discussed this project with me in council chambers.
What is the position of the St. Johns Riverkeeper?
Have an email in to my District 4 Representative Scott Wilson for his support. Still waiting for an email back.
Tera Meeks told everyone at the 11/20/15 meeting that this project needs some help from our educational people on the Waterfront.

Next Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 5 days out. Open to the Public.

Visit Jacksonville!


Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on January 09, 2016, 01:32:26 AM
Had an email back from Scott Wilson my District 4 Jacksonville city council representative and wants to know if anyone else besides me would use this spot before he can make a decision. Good question.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on October 31, 2016, 12:09:58 PM
Quote from: Noone on January 08, 2016, 02:41:43 AM
The Southbank Riverwalk 2014-190 at the DCPS building next to the JEA (District) 2015-777 property can have the Tom Ingram ADA Watercraft hand launch parking spot as a FIND (Florida Inland Navigation District) project. OUR property tax money. This project was voted on at the 11/20/15 FIND meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission that took place on the 4 th floor of city hall.

The Governor of the state of Florida Rick Scott is aware of this positive project.
Beth Meyer Chief of disabled services at the 1/4/16 Finance meeting discussed this project with me in council chambers.
What is the position of the St. Johns Riverkeeper?
Have an email in to my District 4 Representative Scott Wilson for his support. Still waiting for an email back.
Tera Meeks told everyone at the 11/20/15 meeting that this project needs some help from our educational people on the Waterfront.

Next Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 5 days out. Open to the Public.

Visit Jacksonville!




2016-18 FIND project list.
Stay Positive.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on November 03, 2016, 10:47:38 AM
11/3/16 Noticed JUMBO meeting hosted by council President Lori Boyer on WATERFRONT/ACTIVATION at 3:30 pm it's floor of city hall in the Lynwood Roberts room. Open to the Public.
Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on November 07, 2016, 04:34:44 AM
Noticed JUMBO meeting of the SPORTS subcommittee of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission at 10 am Conf. Rm A 4th floor of city hall. Open to the Public. Will any media be there? The Chair is Jim Love.

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Title: Re: The Southbank Riverwalk
Post by: Noone on November 08, 2016, 05:53:35 AM
No one from the media was there. Check the sign in sheet.
Next JUMBO subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission today at 11:30am. 4th floor city hall. Open to Public.
Some announcements at the 11/7/16 meeting. Barbara Goodman new Director of Timucuan Parks Foundation
Jet skis at the fire station on Riverside Ave?
Anyone else feeling sorry for the Baltimore guys 2014-412?

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