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Community => Politics => Topic started by: thelakelander on October 23, 2014, 12:47:47 AM

Title: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: thelakelander on October 23, 2014, 12:47:47 AM
South Florida, Tampa and Orlando would become a part of a new state!  ;D ;D

QuoteOfficials in the City of South Miami have passed a resolution in favor of splitting the state in half so South Florida would become the 51st state.

"We have to be able to deal directly with this environmental concern and we can't really get it done in Tallahassee," Harris said. "I don't care what people think -- it's not a matter of electing the right people."

Mayor Philip Stoddard agreed with Harris' reasoning, saying during the meeting that he's advocated for secession for the past 15 years but never penned a resolution.

Full article: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/os-state-of-south-florida-20141021-post.html

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Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: I-10east on October 23, 2014, 02:02:49 AM
Oh boy, the usual comments will ensue, with hints of 'humor'...  ::)
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on October 23, 2014, 02:10:04 AM
I don't think Tampa or Orlando would roll with that. Maybe Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, and Monroe can go together.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: thelakelander on October 23, 2014, 06:03:37 AM
Yeah, I'm from Polk.  I can't imagine anyone there being down with such a plan. I also guess, they didn't think too much about the urban areas of Orlando and Tampa either.  They split them into two different "states".
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: Steve on October 23, 2014, 08:33:23 AM
I noticed that. Crossing a state boundary between Seminole and Orange County....unlikely
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: David on October 23, 2014, 09:13:19 AM
We'd be the only major city in "old" Florida. Not exactly fair. Hmmm, I call dibs on Tampa/St. Pete (I dig the beaches) They can have Orlando.  Weird boundary lines I know.... OR. just move the capitol. Tallahassee was designated as the capitol at a time when Jax & Pensacola were the only major cities in the state.

Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: Traveller on October 23, 2014, 09:35:53 AM
Besides, everyone knows Florida is really three states:
1. South Georgia: everything north of SR 40.
2. The Sixth Borough: everything south of SR 70.
3. Toll Land: everything in between.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: spuwho on October 23, 2014, 12:01:51 PM
There are several calls for parts of states to seperate themselves.

Right after the Civil War, eastern Tennessee attempted to form a state due to their closer alignment with the Union than western TN.

California has had several ballot initiative attempts to break up the state, but they cant get enough signatures. Yet another one was proposed earlier this year.

Drive up I-5 north of Sacramento and you will see billboards promoting the new state.

Southern Illinois has grumbled about seperation for years. More lately due to Chicago Democrats dominating state politics over the downstate rural Dems.

Upper Peninsula Michigan has tried a couple of times to form a state called Superior.

The latest rush for certain areas of states to seperate themselves represents a cultural trend. More people dont feel their elected officials represent them adequately or there are influences that outweigh their collective needs. So in response they wish to seperate themselves.

District of Columbia is more likely to become a state before Florida splits.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on October 23, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 23, 2014, 08:33:23 AM
I noticed that. Crossing a state boundary between Seminole and Orange County....unlikely

New Tampa/Wesley Chapel would be in a separate state as well from Tampa.  ???

I would be fine seeing Miami-Dade and Broward just become its own country.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 23, 2014, 01:10:20 PM
Hasta la vista be be!  8)
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: finehoe on October 23, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: David on October 23, 2014, 09:13:19 AM
Tallahassee was designated as the capitol at a time when Jax & Pensacola were the only major cities in the state.

Actually, I think it was St. Augustine & Pensacola.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: FSBA on October 23, 2014, 01:25:58 PM
Good. Let all of the snow birds create a warmer New York. One less reason for me to  go south of Daytona.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: coredumped on October 23, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on October 23, 2014, 01:10:20 PM
Hasta la vista be be!  8)
Quote from: FSBA on October 23, 2014, 01:25:58 PM
Good. Let all of the snow birds create a warmer New York. One less reason for me to  go south of Daytona.

I'm with both these guys!
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: David on October 23, 2014, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: finehoe on October 23, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
Actually, I think it was St. Augustine & Pensacola.

Yep that's right. Jax was too small back then.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: kln1323 on October 23, 2014, 03:55:39 PM
if scott and bondi are not involved, I'm moving south
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: spuwho on October 23, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Tallahassee became the capital of Florida during the second legislative session. It was chosen as it was roughly equidistant from St. Augustine and Pensacola, which had been the capitals of the Spanish colonies of East Florida and West Florida. The first session of Florida's Legislative Council—as a territory of the United States—met on July 22, 1822 at Pensacola and members from St. Augustine traveled fifty-nine days by water to attend. The second session was in St. Augustine and required western delegates to travel perilously around the peninsula on a twenty-eight day trek. During this session, it was decided that future meetings should be held at a half-way point. Two appointed commissioners selected Tallahassee, at that point an abandoned Apalachee settlement, as a halfway point. In 1824 the third legislative session met there in a crude log capitol.[11]
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: tufsu1 on October 23, 2014, 10:32:22 PM
This was primarily a stunt to get Tallahassee to pay attention.  Many south Florida cities are increasingly concerned about climate change and all the Governor does is say "I'm not a scientist".  While creating two states seems kind of dumb, getting the Republican-dominated Legislature to address climate change is laudable.
Title: Re: Officials want South Florida to break off into its own state
Post by: ProjectMaximus on October 23, 2014, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on October 23, 2014, 06:03:37 AM
I also guess, they didn't think too much about the urban areas of Orlando and Tampa either.  They split them into two different "states".

There are plenty of other MSAs that are split by state border. Chicago's is actually in three different states.