It appears the I-95/Atlantic Boulevard interchange currently under construction may be bringing some infill economic development to San Marco. However, from the description, it sounds like a slice of the Southside may be moving in...
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QuoteBy Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor
While there is no timeline, a Daily's convenience store with fueling stations and a car wash likely is coming to San Marco.
City Council approved the rezoning of about 1.16 acres along Atlantic Boulevard at Farragut Place for the project and the city also has issued a mobility fee calculation certificate for it.
The 5,000-square-foot Daily's would include 16 fueling positions, files show.
A spokesman for Daily's, a brand of Jacksonville-based First Coast Energy LLP, said the company hoped to complete the property purchase in the next few months. The land is owned by the Southside Assembly of God and Daniel Wilensky and Cathy Wilensky.
The property is near the construction for the Interstate 95 Overland Bridge replacement project.
Full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=544051
While this is "a slice of the southside," San Marco desperately needs another gas station.
Another gas station? How about one at all!! The BP on Prudential doesn't count.
Quote from: johnnyliar on October 09, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
While this is "a slice of the southside," San Marco desperately needs another gas station.
I don't have anything against gas stations. I'm just concerned about how it fits into the surrounding neighborhood. The site is in the middle of historic Fletcher Park. I'm just hoping that the design isn't the typical gigantic gas station layout that's been popping up all over town recently. Hopefully, it's something closer to the 7/11 at Main & Union and not the Daily's on Baymeadows & I-95.
with today's fuel efficient cars, how can one not go an extra mile from San Marco down Atlantic to the Racetrac at Atlantic and Hart Bridge expressway? Or make it into downtown to one of the many stations on Union or State? No, this is a pure Grocery play with Publix saying they are not going to commit anytime soon, Daily's is moving in to capitalize on the need of the less fortunate who need immediate/late night supplies. Good play by them, the area needs something like what the St. Vincent's area has with the 7/11 across the street from the hospital.
The parties named in the article own that entire block bounded by Farragut, Atlantic, Kings, and Olevia. So hard to say where exactly or how big it will be. I would imagine they would want the station on the Kings/Atlantic corner, which is currently home to the Fresenius Medical building.
I think you are right about the grocery thing. The only time I have wished for a gas station close by is when I am mowing or something and run out of gas.
A typical Daily's would most likely take up the entire block.
If this causes Fresenius to be torn down, I'm all for it. When they remodeled the fresenius building and literally turned its back to the street, I was appalled. Its a horrible use of that space and I would love to see it go. If they oriented the Daily's to face the street, or gave it any urban characteristics at all, that would be a bonus.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 10, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
A typical Daily's would most likely take up the entire block.
based on the article saying the rezoning was for 1.16 acres, it won't be the whole block. I would think the Fresenius building would stay, since it was re-built only a few years ago.
With the center of the block and Fresenius it's 2.21 according to GIS, and with the center of the block and the three houses along Farragut it's 1.14. So no way to tell from that. Either way some part of the block will stay. Unfortunately I would bet it's the Fresenius building. The church owns that and I bet they would like to keep the rent coming from that.
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 10, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
with today's fuel efficient cars, how can one not go an extra mile from San Marco down Atlantic to the Racetrac at Atlantic and Hart Bridge expressway? Or make it into downtown to one of the many stations on Union or State? No, this is a pure Grocery play with Publix saying they are not going to commit anytime soon, Daily's is moving in to capitalize on the need of the less fortunate who need immediate/late night supplies. Good play by them, the area needs something like what the St. Vincent's area has with the 7/11 across the street from the hospital.
Pretty sure that is more than a mile.
does this count as a grocery store?
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 10, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
with today's fuel efficient cars,
This is flawed logic. Gas is (currently) 3x what it was, and up to 4x when it's closer to $4/gal. Cars are not getting 4x the millage of 15 years ago when it was $0.99/gal.
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We're still losing.
^ no the flawed logic is not adjusting for inflation and picking one dip on the graph (1999). Gas has been running about $3.25 for regular, which using the graphic above yields an inflation adjusted price of about $1.80....and yes, there are cars today (like hybrids) that are 80% more fuel efficient than they were 15 years ago.
Quote from: tufsu1 on October 10, 2014, 10:01:50 AM
^ no the flawed logic is not adjusting for inflation and picking one dip on the graph (1999). Gas has been running about $3.25 for regular, which using the graphic above yields an inflation adjusted price of about $1.80....and yes, there are cars today (like hybrids) that are 80% more fuel efficient than they were 15 years ago.
Well, 1999 was 15 years ago, gas didn't hit $1.80 until 2004 (10 years ago). As far as hybrids go, yeah, that's great and all, but you have to consider the horrible environmental impact and the upfront cost. Even with subsidies, they come out to cost more.
Also don't forget that during the mid 90s/2000s, Americans went all "bigger is better" SUV crazy, and just overall worse MPG in the everyday vehicles people tended to drive. Case in point: The Geo Metro used to get upwards of 50 MPG highway.
Instead of making cars more & more efficient, we went the other way. Sure, I guess you could get a hybrid if you wanna take out a second mortgage for not that much of a gain.
There's a Gate Station on San Jose about one mile south of Hendricks Ave Elementary. There's a BP on Phillips Highway less than one mile from HAE. Don't those serve San Marco in general?
Is there a pharmacy serving this area? Please tell me where it is.
Quote from: MusicMan on October 10, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
There's a Gate Station on San Jose about one mile south of Hendricks Ave Elementary. There's a BP on Phillips Highway less than one mile from HAE. Don't those serve San Marco in general?
Is there a pharmacy serving this area? Please tell me where it is.
Robert's Southbank Pharmacy is right on Atlantic, less than a block from Hendricks.
Hybrid's do not have a horrible environmental impact and the costs have come down significantly. My wife got one for close to 12K,with only 10k miles on it. http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/does-hybrid-car-production-waste-offset-hybrid-benefits.htm
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That being said is this a fit for the area not really but hell didn't stop 7-11 from taking the old pizza palace space in 5 points, but at least that was an existing structure.
The gas pumps have a promo recording feature........I hear "It's Better Here!" just before I hit the 'mute' button.
But I return,again and again to the Roosevelt Blvd./St Johns Ave facility, Thanks to the Mute button,and never having to actually go inside the building.
This is a game changer for the area. As a resident of San Marco, not having a legit gas station or 24 hour place to buy beer/snacks are the two big drawbacks. Cross both of those drawbacks off the list. I can't tell you how many times I had to make an extra stop to get gas on the way to do something. The BP is very hard to get to and I feel like I'm stepping into a time warp when I go there.
It's almost next to the Scottish Inn for crying out loud, how can anyone complain about it 'not fitting in to the area'? I bet those complaining about the Daily's either don't live in San Marco or ride a skateboard.
The new store is looking like ought to be able to open any day now. I'm pleased to see ethanol free as part of the fuel selection.
Photos evening of 1/11/16:
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I also have a dust spot on my sensor...
This is the first time I've been excited about a gas station opening. Most folks take having a legit jiffy store and gas station for granted. Seriously, this is much needed infrastructure. If this place doesn't set sales records for the company I would be surprised.
I'm also unreasonably excited about a gas station, I count 16 regular pumps, some with diesel, plus 2 E0 spots on each end. They definitely seem to be anticipating some business.
They have no reason not to be a huge success, they're the only gas station in this area. I recently gave a lift to a guy and his kids whose car ran out of gas. I had to drive them up to the BP on Prudential - which would have been quite a walk for them with a gas can. And if that hadn't been open, as it often decides not to be, I would have had to drive them all the way out to the Gate on San Jose. There's a real demand for this right now and it's only going to increase.
Quote from: NaldoAveKnight on January 11, 2016, 07:29:04 PM
This is the first time I've been excited about a gas station opening.
Just wait until Wawa enters the market!
OR Sheetz's
Quote from: tufsu1 on January 11, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: NaldoAveKnight on January 11, 2016, 07:29:04 PM
This is the first time I've been excited about a gas station opening.
Just wait until Wawa enters the market!
The ramp up of higher end Daily's and Gate stations is in anticipation of Wawa entering the market. It's only a matter of time, so Daily's and Gate are building stores that will be able to compete with what Wawa has to offer.
Is that outdoor seating fronting Atlantic Blvd? Pretty swanky.
Yes. Here's the site plan and elevations from a few months back:
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I passed this new 7-Eleven on Colonial in Orlando yesterday. Hopefully, the day of better gas station design has arrived and will be here to stay.
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QuoteThe City of Orlando required that 7-Eleven build its new gas station/convenience store at Colonial Drive and Fern Creek in accordance with "traditional city" zoning criteria. Doors open to the sidewalks. The building sits on the corner, creating architectural definition. And, yes, most motorists are smart enough to figure out where to find the gas pumps. This layout should be standard for corner gas station/convenience stores.
http://rickgellerforcc.blogspot.com/2013/09/orlandos-new-urban-7-eleven.html
Moreover, this gas station is probably being built mainly to serve I-95 exits and on-ramps that will soon be opening up. Though the surrounding neighborhoods won't mind either.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on January 12, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
The ramp up of higher end Daily's and Gate stations is in anticipation of Wawa entering the market. It's only a matter of time, so Daily's and Gate are building stores that will be able to compete with what Wawa has to offer.
Even the new Gate stores are nowhere close to Wawa....the only advantage they have here (and its a big one) is their name.
The new Daily's opened yesterday.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/san-marco-dailys-opens-at-4-pm
I meant to mention this last night. I passed by them after leaving Aardwolf around 9:30p.
They are giving away a bunch of free stuff over the next week. They are also giving 50% off their made to order sandwiches.