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Title: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: coredumped on October 07, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
QuoteClearwater, Florida -- A violation of first amendment rights -- that's what a gubernatorial candidate for governor is saying to him.

Libertarian Adrian Wyllie says he's being blacklisted from upcoming debates with Governor Rick Scott and Former Governor Charlie Crist.

He says it's against the law and is now taking the issue to court.

Political debates usually bring a big audience, big discussions, and big topics and Wylie doesn't think it is fair that he is missing out.

"Even though I was invited to debates initially, I'm now being blacklisted," says Wyllie.

Wyllie believes organizers of this year's debates have made it impossible for other candidates, rather than republicans or democrats, to participate.

"The objective is to only include the two major party candidates and to keep people of Florida in the dark, that they do have additional choices," says Wyllie.

In recent years, candidates have only had to gain 7% of voter Support, which Wyllie has, polling many times at 9%. But at the Oct. 15 debate at Broward College, sponsored by Leadership Florida and the Florida Press Association, organizers have adopted rules that candidates must have at least 15%.

"It's not uncommon for people sponsoring debates to try and limit them to only two primary parties. That is fundamentally unfair," says Attorney Luke Lirot.

Lirot says he's now backing Wyllie, and filing legal action that would allow Wyllie to debate.

"First amendment speeches seems to be pinnacle for first amendment rights and anyone running for office should be able to get their message running for office," says Lirot.

He says Wyllie's first amendment rights are being broken and Lirot is making sure they are fixed.

"These are viable candidates that have great deal of support. I think it's a real disservice to citizens of Florida," says Lirot.

Lirot says time is of the essence as there's only two weeks left until the first debate. He hopes the judge can make a decision soon.
http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/politics/2014/09/26/adrian-wyllie/16272939/

Well, that's 1 way to keep the 2-party system alive and well.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: FSBA on October 07, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
Wyllie received 13% in the latest poll by 0ptimus FL

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2014/10/0ptimus-fl-poll-adrian-wyllie-gaining-at-13-charlie-crist-rick-scott-deadlocked-40-39.html

I'll be voting for Wyllie because otherwise I would be writing in Jimbo Fisher or Mickie Mouse. Neither corrupt Republican governor has given me a reason to vote for them.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: fsquid on October 07, 2014, 10:53:33 PM
sad, the two main stream candidates are absolute horseshit.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: coredumped on October 08, 2014, 09:52:27 AM
Quote from: fsquid on October 07, 2014, 10:53:33 PM
sad, the two main stream candidates are absolute horseshit.

Agreed, it's just like a presidential election!

I'll be "throwing my vote away" since the lesser of 2 evils is still evil :) I guess if you're happy w/the way things are going or have been, go for 1 of the big 2.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: urbanlibertarian on October 08, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
Voting for Wyllie is like 2 votes in 1.  You're voting AGAINST both Scott AND Crist.  BONUS!
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: finehoe on October 08, 2014, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on October 08, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
Voting for Wyllie is like 2 votes in 1.  You're voting AGAINST both Scott AND Crist.  BONUS!

So true.  And so sad for what it says about the state of our democracy.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: Traveller on October 08, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: coredumped on October 08, 2014, 09:52:27 AM
Quote from: fsquid on October 07, 2014, 10:53:33 PM
sad, the two main stream candidates are absolute horseshit.
Agreed, it's just like a presidential election!

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9d/9d5d40b79e18979c505de59e72f4a787a4696745b36d01eace62e8bc7a757384.jpg)
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: urbanlibertarian on October 09, 2014, 09:52:05 AM
Two parties aren't enough.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: spuwho on October 09, 2014, 11:51:41 AM
WOKV is reporting that Wyllie votes hurt Scott more than Crist. They should still let the guy speak however.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: FSBA on October 09, 2014, 01:37:08 PM
Quote from: spuwho on October 09, 2014, 11:51:41 AM
WOKV is reporting that Wyllie votes hurt Scott more than Crist. They should still let the guy speak however.

A conservative news station beating the dead horse that Libertarians "steal" votes from Republican candidates? No way.

Nevermind that, just like with Robert Sarvis in Virginia, Wyllie's biggest block of support is coming from independents who would otherwise have just stayed home.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: coredumped on October 10, 2014, 09:51:19 AM
If anyone is interested more in Wyllie he'll be on "This Week in Jacksonville" on Ch4 this Sunday, 9am:
https://www.facebook.com/events/810218569020833/?ref=22
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: fsquid on October 10, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on October 09, 2014, 09:52:05 AM
Two parties aren't enough.

I still favor the UK's style of government.  Dissolve the government and vote in 30 days
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: FSBA on October 12, 2014, 11:24:00 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/this-week-in-jacksonville-101214/29077110
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: VanDeusen on October 21, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
I think the clear winner of tonight's debate is Wyllie. Crist and Scott are both terrible at debating and terrible candidates in general.
Title: Re: Despite Strong Polling, Libertarian Barred from Florida Gubernatorial Debate
Post by: tufsu1 on October 21, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
except that Wyllie's poll numbers have been dropping like a rock....while he was once getting as much as 15%, he's now hovering around 6%