Dodge has been threatening for almost a year that the new Chevy Camaro Z-28 and Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 were gonna get topped. Well they finally did it.
Per MotorTrend:
http://wot.motortrend.com/1407_2015_dodge_challenger_srt_hellcat_makes_astounding_707_hp_650_lb_ft.html (http://wot.motortrend.com/1407_2015_dodge_challenger_srt_hellcat_makes_astounding_707_hp_650_lb_ft.html)
707 Horsepower. Yep, its true.
Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Holy crap. If they make this into a cop car, no one gets away!
(https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/NzG5v.GuZlO4rEGb9HFnAQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MTk4NTtjcj0xO2N3PTMwMDA7ZHg9MDtkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTgwMDtxPTc1O3c9MTIwOQ--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/autos/2014-05-20/872be3f0-e021-11e3-a133-4faed74dc839_DG015_144CL.jpg)
nice
I wonder what is it's estimated top speed?
Quote from: I-10east on July 01, 2014, 10:20:24 PM
I wonder what is it's estimated top speed?
Typically for either insurance or tire reasons, it usually is capped at 155mph. But I haven't read anything official.
Also amazing for this car is it still gets over 20 mpg on the highway.
It has 2 keys. The valet "black" key only gets you 500 hp. The standard "red" key gets you the 700+ hp.
Since its part of the SRT line you do get access to track time at certain tracks. Should be interesting to see what this can do.
Quote from: spuwho on July 01, 2014, 08:04:55 PM
Dodge Challenger Hellcat. Holy crap. If they make this into a cop car, no one gets away!
Ummm...... This guy might.
(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2012-suzuki-gsxr-1000/2012-suzuki-gsxr-1000-3.jpg)
Yeah, you end up with silliness like this. Can't tell you how many times I have seen this happen.
http://www.youtube.com/v/e4WBCZrr4Ao
Quote from: spuwho on July 05, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
Yeah, you end up with silliness like this. Can't tell you how many times I have seen this happen.
Police harassing bikers? Yeah. I've seen it a time or two myself.
Since I started driving in 1955, I've owned about fifteen motorcycles ... from a 1949 pan head tank shift Harley, to the British Triumphs, Nortons, and BSA's .. to the newer Harley Sportsters ... have owned one Corvette ZO6, and flown some interesting prop aircraft ... one having 1,425 hp ... and had the fun occasion to feel the smoothness of a jet ... for about 20 minutes.
High speeds are fun, but as one's speed exceeds the extremities of 150 to 180 mph, even on a racetrack, the motorcycle or automobile increasingly assumes the characteristics of a projectile ... control begins to shift from that of the human to the powerful forces of inertia and momentum, which, given the imperfections of the highway, can cause the vehicle to try to be an airplane. This would be sort of okay, but most of the motorcycles or automobiles I know of have no wings or control surfaces.
There were 500 hp and up V8 automobile engines in the sixties ... modified by enthusiasts to see just how powerful they could go. Although in some respects the extreme horsepowers are impractical for road use, the process of seeking high horsepowers actually improves expertise in engineering, metallurgy, and processes ... and the experimentation can improve road efficiencies.
For example, a naturally aspirated 405 hp, 6 speed manual, 2003 Corvette ZO6, by excellent engineering, is so efficient it gets up to 24 mpg around the neighborhood, and up to 28 mpg on the highway ... if driven conservatively or course. There is no way that, in the 60's, an automobile could get that kind of mileage while having 405 hp, and a top speed of 180 mph. Those beastly V8's of the sixties achieved only perhaps 10 mpg city, and 16 on highway.
The new Dodge will be fun for those who can afford it and wish to spend the money. And I'm sure that some new technologies have been improved because of the effort to make this vehicle. As these V8's become lighter and more powerful, they will become candidates for use in experimental aircraft. Already, the mostly aluminum Corvette engine, especially the newer designs having oil tanks instead of crankcase oil reservoirs, has been used in a few of the experimental aircraft.
1 minor thing on that Ron,
In the 60's horsepower was measured with no load at the crank.
Today due to more standards and streamlining in measurements, hp is measured at the axle. Which they consider a more accurate assessment of available power.
I too remember doing 145 in a 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 GT on a country tarred road, bias tires with a wild Vietnam vet at the wheel. It was scary only because a car of that era, while having the power, wasn't really designed to be used in such a way.
I have also driven NASCAR at Daytona and those things shake like a leaf and respond to the smallest of inputs. But once you reach race speed, they actually smooth out.
Comes down to what you ask a car to do compared to what it was designed for.
The Hellcat is more bragging rights than anything. The only real place where 700+ hp can be used is in a controlled space, like a track.
Okay guys, read it and still not impressed! Guess we all have our vices and I thought it might be fun to jerk your chains a bit. Here's one of my favorite 'Hellcats' for a fun comparison. Just saying' ;D
LOCOMOTIVE SPEED - 110 MPH
CALIFORNIA PASSENGER CARS, UP TO 125 MPH
Specifications
Power type Diesel-electric
Builder GE Transportation Systems
Model P40DC, P32AC-DM, P42DC
Build date 1992–2001
Total produced 321
Number rebuilt 19
AAR wheel arr. B-B
UIC classification Bo′Bo′
Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm)
Trucks Krupp-MaK high-speed bolsterless
Wheel diameter 40 in (1,016 mm)
Wheelbase 43 ft 2.5 in (13.170 m) (between truck centers)
Length 69 ft 0 in (21.03 m)
Width 10 ft 0 in (3.05 m)
Height 14 ft 4 in (4.37 m)
Axle load 72,000 lb (32,659 kg) Max
Locomotive weight P40DC, P42DC: 268,240 lb (121,672 kilograms)
P32AC-DM: 274,400 lb (124,466 kilograms)
Fuel type Diesel
Fuel capacity 2,200 US gal (8,300 l; 1,800 imp gal)
Prime mover GE 7FDL16 (P40DC, P42DC), GE 7FDL12 (P32AC-DM)
Engine RPM range 200-1050 (600-900 while supplying HEP)
Engine type 45° V16, four stroke cycle (P40DC, P42DC), 45° V12, four stroke cycle (P32AC-DM)
Aspiration Turbocharged
Displacement 175.2 liters (10,690 cu in) (7FDL16)
131.4 liters (8,020 cu in) (7FDL12)
Alternator GMG195 (P40DC, P42DC)
GMG195A1 (P32AC-DM)
Traction motors GE 752AH (DC), GE GEB15 (AC)
Cylinders 16 (P40DC, P42DC)
12 (P32AC-DM)
Cylinder size 10.95 liters (668 cu in) [1]
Multiple working Yes
Top speed 103 mph (166 km/h) (original P40DC)
110 mph (177 km/h) (P42DC, P32AC-DM, upgraded P40DC)
60 mph (96.6 km/h) (in electric mode P32AC-DM only)[2]
Power output 4,250 hp (3,170 kW) (DC)
3,200 hp (2,400 kW) (AC)
Tractive effort 280.25 kN (63,000 lbf) DC Starting
169 kN (38,000 lbf) DC Continuous @38 mph (61.2 km/h) [3]
Factor of
adhesion 4.25 (DC)
Train heating Locomotive-supplied head-end power
Locomotive brake Dynamic / Regenerative / Electropneumatic
Train brakes Electropneumatic
http://www.youtube.com/v/5u5cOQGVGYs?hl=en_US
The GE Dash 8-32BWH, also known as the P32-8WH or B32-8WH, is a passenger train locomotive used by Amtrak. It is based on GE's Dash 8 series of freight train locomotives.
The Dash 8-32BWH operates in a diesel-electric configuration that uses DC to power the traction motors, producing 3,200 hp (2,400 kW) at 1047 rpm. When providing head end power to the train, the engine is speed locked to 900 rpm. Power output to the traction motors is 2,700 hp (2,000 kW) when running in HEP mode with a 0 kW HEP load. Traction horsepower decreases to a bare minimum of 1,685 hp (1,257 kW) when providing the maximum 800 kW (1,100 hp) HEP load to the train. ;)
Quote from: Ocklawaha on July 06, 2014, 11:33:32 AM
Okay guys, read it and still not impressed! Guess we all have our vices and I thought it might be fun to jerk your chains a bit. Here's one of my favorite 'Hellcats' for a fun comparison. Just saying' ;D
LOCOMOTIVE SPEED - 110 MPH
CALIFORNIA PASSENGER CARS, UP TO 125 MPH
Specifications
Power type Diesel-electric
Builder GE Transportation Systems
Model P40DC, P32AC-DM, P42DC
Build date 1992–2001
Total produced 321
Number rebuilt 19
AAR wheel arr. B-B
UIC classification Bo′Bo′
Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm)
Trucks Krupp-MaK high-speed bolsterless
Wheel diameter 40 in (1,016 mm)
Wheelbase 43 ft 2.5 in (13.170 m) (between truck centers)
Length 69 ft 0 in (21.03 m)
Width 10 ft 0 in (3.05 m)
Height 14 ft 4 in (4.37 m)
Axle load 72,000 lb (32,659 kg) Max
Locomotive weight P40DC, P42DC: 268,240 lb (121,672 kilograms)
P32AC-DM: 274,400 lb (124,466 kilograms)
Fuel type Diesel
Fuel capacity 2,200 US gal (8,300 l; 1,800 imp gal)
Prime mover GE 7FDL16 (P40DC, P42DC), GE 7FDL12 (P32AC-DM)
Engine RPM range 200-1050 (600-900 while supplying HEP)
Engine type 45° V16, four stroke cycle (P40DC, P42DC), 45° V12, four stroke cycle (P32AC-DM)
Aspiration Turbocharged
Displacement 175.2 liters (10,690 cu in) (7FDL16)
131.4 liters (8,020 cu in) (7FDL12)
Alternator GMG195 (P40DC, P42DC)
GMG195A1 (P32AC-DM)
Traction motors GE 752AH (DC), GE GEB15 (AC)
Cylinders 16 (P40DC, P42DC)
12 (P32AC-DM)
Cylinder size 10.95 liters (668 cu in) [1]
Multiple working Yes
Top speed 103 mph (166 km/h) (original P40DC)
110 mph (177 km/h) (P42DC, P32AC-DM, upgraded P40DC)
60 mph (96.6 km/h) (in electric mode P32AC-DM only)[2]
Power output 4,250 hp (3,170 kW) (DC)
3,200 hp (2,400 kW) (AC)
Tractive effort 280.25 kN (63,000 lbf) DC Starting
169 kN (38,000 lbf) DC Continuous @38 mph (61.2 km/h) [3]
Factor of
adhesion 4.25 (DC)
Train heating Locomotive-supplied head-end power
Locomotive brake Dynamic / Regenerative / Electropneumatic
Train brakes Electropneumatic
http://www.youtube.com/v/5u5cOQGVGYs?hl=en_US
The GE Dash 8-32BWH, also known as the P32-8WH or B32-8WH, is a passenger train locomotive used by Amtrak. It is based on GE's Dash 8 series of freight train locomotives.
The Dash 8-32BWH operates in a diesel-electric configuration that uses DC to power the traction motors, producing 3,200 hp (2,400 kW) at 1047 rpm. When providing head end power to the train, the engine is speed locked to 900 rpm. Power output to the traction motors is 2,700 hp (2,000 kW) when running in HEP mode with a 0 kW HEP load. Traction horsepower decreases to a bare minimum of 1,685 hp (1,257 kW) when providing the maximum 800 kW (1,100 hp) HEP load to the train. ;)
Well Ock,
When youfigure out a way to shove a prime mover under the hood of any public higwway going auto, bring it on out and we will take a look.