What is the latest on something moving into this location? The building and parking lot looks ready for business, but haven't heard much about anyone signing a lease.
I understand M Shack is going in there. if true will be a great anchor tenant for that strip.
Quote from: Sentient on July 11, 2014, 12:09:01 PM
I understand M Shack is going in there. if true will be a great anchor tenant for that strip.
Five Points Shopping Village is the shopping center on Margaret St in 5 Points that was rebuilt following a fire.
M Shack is going into the Shoppes on Riverside, which is the new development in Brooklyn.
Well, still nothing. Not so much as a "coming soon" sign on anything. I saw an Asian family taking pictures in front of the empty signage. But hey, there's a Chase ATM now.. never mind the fact that there's a Chase ATM at the chase bank 300 yards down the road by Einstein bagel. Any news on ANYTHING going there? It's like they're throwing a party but no one is showing up.
QuoteM Shack is going into the Shoppes on Riverside, which is the new development in Brooklyn.
Not anymore. They are going to Five Points.
Quote from: fieldafm on July 11, 2014, 01:10:50 PM
QuoteM Shack is going into the Shoppes on Riverside, which is the new development in Brooklyn.
Not anymore. They are going to Five Points.
Confirmed?
M Shack is confirmed:
QuoteM Shack is going to open in Five Points Village, the strip shopping center that's being rebuilt on Margaret Street. Matthew Medure said he hopes to open by the end of the year.
There's some news on other tenants as well:
QuotePart of Five Points Village burned down in 2012. Once reconstruction started last year, owner Peter Sleiman said he hoped to have it opened by February or March 2014. The shell has been constructed, but there's been no build-out nor tenants.
Now construction has started on Kaika Teppanyaki, a high-end Japanese restaurant that's going in, Sleiman said. He also has a signed lease for Hot Wok, a Chinese restaurant.
Sleiman said he has commitments from two more tenants, but since leases haven't been signed, he can't name them.
http://members.jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2014-07-14/story/m-shack-expanding-its-burgers-fries-and-shakes
There was a worker inside Unit 1 (closest to Post St.) this weekend hanging drywall. So there is finally some activity.
Quote from: thelakelander on July 14, 2014, 05:47:32 PM
M Shack is confirmed:
QuoteM Shack is going to open in Five Points Village, the strip shopping center that's being rebuilt on Margaret Street. Matthew Medure said he hopes to open by the end of the year.
There's some news on other tenants as well:
QuotePart of Five Points Village burned down in 2012. Once reconstruction started last year, owner Peter Sleiman said he hoped to have it opened by February or March 2014. The shell has been constructed, but there's been no build-out nor tenants.
Now construction has started on Kaika Teppanyaki, a high-end Japanese restaurant that's going in, Sleiman said. He also has a signed lease for Hot Wok, a Chinese restaurant.
Sleiman said he has commitments from two more tenants, but since leases haven't been signed, he can't name them.
http://members.jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2014-07-14/story/m-shack-expanding-its-burgers-fries-and-shakes
Medure's comments on why he chose Five Points over Brooklyn are interesting. He thinks Five Points is better in the short term but that Brooklyn may be better long term.
Looks like drywall is getting hung, slowly but surely. I saw the folks from Hot Wok casing the place this weekend. Which will be nice having them back! There's only so much China Joy one can handle and Panda House (while excellent and actually the most authentic in the area) kinda scares me on their safety record. I wonder if there will be a laundromat coming back or if one will come back into the area so there's a closer place than BlueWave? I think personally that a laundromat might be a waste of a nice shiny new building... but hey...
I wish they planted something other than crepe myrtles in the parking lot!
Quote from: John P on July 30, 2014, 05:24:02 PM
I wish they planted something other than crepe myrtles in the parking lot!
Ugh.
Plants palms. Cry cry cry. Plant Crepe Myrtles (official tree of Jax) cry cry cry. Plant holly or oak in those small cut outs and half dead in 2 years. Cry cry cry.
The problem with Crepe Myrtles is they're beautiful for 2 months and then look like dead trees for the other 10. Palm trees are the best overall, in my opinion, assuming they're well maintained. The stretch of A1A leading to Ponte Vedra is a prime example. Those trees have been there for 15 years and look just as good as when they were first planted.
What are the best canopy or shade tree options? Palms typically do nothing for pedestrians and oaks eventually tear up the streetscape.
American Elms and Winged Elms make a nice low canopy and don't have disruptive roots. They have the reputation of doing well in urban environments. Bradford Pears are a common alternative to Crepe Myrtles.
The issues that I see are nothing more than a plain short-sightedness from whomever is suggesting the trees we get. When I was building homes for a living, we were required to replant a certain amount of trees credits to make up for what was removed during land clearing. that's why on most newly developed lots you see a sickly oak tree in the middle of the yard. I'm sure there's more of the same at play when it comes to commercial development.
There are quite a few hardwood trees that are relatively quick growing that are suited for our area. Crepes and palms are readily available and you're accustomed to seeing them. Personally, I would love to see dogwoods and river birch, but would be OK with Yellow Poplar, Black Walnut and Honeylocust. Pretty much anything that's not an oak tree or a crepe myrtle.
Bradford Pears are NOT the answer, neighbor across the street has 2 huge ones, always complaining about the strong odor and the branches sheering off in the wind, as they are quite delicate. The BP is prone to splitting during high winds. For high traffic areas, simple, easy is best.
Fortunately (or unfortunately) ornamental pears seldom bloom this far south, so the smell isn't too much of an issue. But yeah, they grow too large for such a weak tree and have been coming out of favor for years now. At least they aren't invasive here.
IMO....I agree with the statement about Elm trees. Depending on the scale necessary for a particular project and whether it's in a parking lot of a sidewalk, there are different types of elms that could be selected to suit those particulars. The only issue is they do lose their leaves in the winter and therefore don't provide shade.
Palms only work for shade if they're clustered tightly together. Even then, only date palms really provide any significant shade that they are big $$.
Live Oaks get too big for urban sidewalks (look at the ones in front of the Farah & Farah Bldg on Adams for an example). They tear up the sidewalk and disfigure themselves if they're too cramped or if they're too shaded because they grow outward looking for sunlight. However, oaks can be great parking lot trees if the planting beds are large enough.
Pear trees are a nice size and shape but they are somewhat delicate. I've never encountered an issue with the smell but that's interesting to hear.
Quote from: TomHurst on August 06, 2014, 09:59:36 AM
Pear trees are a nice size and shape but they are somewhat delicate. I've never encountered an issue with the smell but that's interesting to hear.
It's only the blossoms that smell, and they smell like rotten meat. It doesn't get cold enough here for them to bloom as intensely or as regularly as they do in just the next hardiness zone north, but this past winter was the most I had seen them bloom here in recent memory.
Red bud and dog wood
Quote from: John P on August 06, 2014, 11:14:55 AM
Red bud and dog wood
Both are getting wiped out by disease around here. Darn few Dogwoods left.
Riverbirch does well as a street tree, but also loses it leaves in the winter. They look good even when bare because of the silver, peeling bark.
A few weeks back we've had a lot of rain and a good chuck on the parking lot cose to Post Street was filled with water. There was some standing water for days. The parking lot really should be fixed so the water drains. Imagine what the area will be like when we get serious rains during a hurricane?