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Title: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: downtownparks on May 06, 2008, 07:21:32 AM
QuoteDrivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Email|Print|Single Page| Text size â€" + By Michael Levenson
Globe Staff / May 6, 2008

Their wallets siphoned by high gas prices, more Americans are taking the subway, bus, or commuter train, particularly in Boston, where officials say the number of subway riders is increasing faster than in New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C.

MBTA officials said yesterday that the number of rides on the Red, Blue and Orange lines surged almost 10 percent in the first three months of the year, an unusually high increase that they say has put the transit system on track to smash its previous record of 354.1 million rides in 2001.

While MBTA officials hailed the figures as very exciting news, commuters who have given up their cars expressed mixed emotions. They said crowded trains and buses reflect a bitter economic trade-off - the affordability of public transit over the freedom of the road.

"I used to always drive in the morning, but with these gas prices? Forget about it," said John Garceau, a 53-year-old construction worker waiting at South Station for a commuter train to his home in Middleborough yesterday.

"It's downright ridiculous, what with prices now $3.50, $3.75," said Garceau, adding that his wife just bought a Ford Explorer that costs more than $60 to fill with gas. "The way to go, I would say, is the MBTA."

Apparently, thousands of other beleaguered drivers agree. Over the first three months of the year, the number of rides on all branches of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority has risen nearly 230,000 - or 6.2 percent over the same period in 2007. The figure includes increases of 5.6 percent on the Green Line, which is considered light rail and is measured separately, 4.8 percent on buses, and 1 percent on the commuter rail.

Virginia Miller, spokeswoman for the Washington, D.C.-based American Public Transportation Association, said transit officials have long known that when gas prices hit $3, it signals a "price point" in the minds of many consumers. AAA of Southern New England said gas prices yesterday hit an average of $3.56 for a gallon of self-serve unleaded in Massachusetts, up 51 cents since the start of the year.

"They say, 'I can't afford that anymore,' and they start looking for other options," Miller said. "Now, we're way beyond $3 - $3.50, $3.75, $4 in some places - so there's a whole other level of people who are going, 'Whoa. This is just too much money, and I'm going to look into taking a bus or train."

MBTA General Manager Daniel A. Grabauskas credited the increase in part to trains, buses, and subway cars that he said are faster, cleaner, and safer than in past years. But he acknowledged the surge also is coming from riders who have been driven by "scary" gas prices to "dump the pump."

"Absolutely, no question, we are seeing gas prices drive up the ridership numbers here in Boston and in transit agencies across the nation," Grabauskas said at a press conference yesterday at Ruggles T station in Roxbury.
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The Orange, Red, and Blue lines have seen the biggest increases: 9.5 percent in the first three months of the year compared with the same period last year.

Los Angeles and Washington, by contrast, have seen about 5 percent more subway riders during the period, while Philadelphia has seen about 4 percent more. New York has seen 7 percent more subway riders in the first two months of the year compared with the same period last year. Its March figures were not available yesterday.

The MBTA may be outpacing other systems because Boston has a higher share of its jobs in its downtown than other cities, said David Luberoff, executive director of the Rappaport Institute for Greater Boston at Harvard.

"It's the benefit of having an economically vital downtown and having some [nearby] places served by transit," Luberoff said. "It's the folks who are living relatively close-in who have some access to the subway."

The MBTA, of course, is itself suffering the effects of higher gas prices and will have to pay $16 million more this year to run its transit system, Grabauskas said. The increase will eat away at least some of the increased revenue from the boost in riders, he said.

The system appears to be benefiting from small shifts in people's commuting habits. For years, Mike Avery, who commutes twice a week from South Attleboro to downtown Boston, took the train one day and drove the other day. Now, he takes the train both days.

"You factor in parking, frustration, and gas prices, it's the better way to go," he said yesterday, as he waited for a train home from South Station.

He noted that he seems to have more company, too. "The train is looking more crowded these days," he said. On his 8:20 train yesterday morning, "it was standing room only," he said, "and that's usually not the case."

Geoffrey Campbell, who gives tours of historic sites around Boston Common, drives from his home in Plymouth to the Braintree MBTA station, then takes the Red Line to Park Street.

Yesterday, he said he planned to start driving to the commuter rail station in Kingston, which will save him about 40 miles of driving a day. Campbell, who was riding the Red Line in his uniform of a feathered tricorn hat and blue Revolutionary War coat, said the change made economic sense.

"People don't have the disposable income that they had to dump into the gas tank," he said.
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: Lunican on May 06, 2008, 08:37:18 AM
Meanwhile in Jacksonville...

QuoteBus ridership has not increased in the last year, but Jacksonville Transportation Authority spokesman Mike Miller said bus drivers have noticed a lot of new people riding the buses.

Some may have stopped riding this year because of the rate increase, but new ones came on board because of the increase in gas prices, Miller said.
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: Joe on May 06, 2008, 09:29:19 AM
In Jacksonville, there's a much higher hurdle to overcome because the bus service is particularly slow, infrequent, and not very useful.

I honestly think that gas would have to be well over $6 or $7 a gallon before people started using the bus in significant numbers. Until then, I think the increases will be nominal at best. It's just not a practical system at the moment - even in the face of $3.50 gas.
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: Driven1 on May 06, 2008, 09:35:05 AM
i'm riding my bike more and now have 2 scooters (70-80 mpg)
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: WitchDoctor on May 06, 2008, 10:53:47 AM
Is the bus system reliable? As long as it gets me to work when I need to be there, I will use it. I'm moving to town in a couple of weeks and I'll be able to use the bus from my new place to work on the weekdays. I'll have to drive on weekends due to the shortened schedule.

Since a more efficient vehicle is out of the question at the moment, (I'm scraping the money together just to get moved.) I welcome the chance to spend $2.00 a day on bus fare rather than nearly $8.00 on gas. It'll also save on wear and tear and insurance.
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: thelakelander on May 06, 2008, 12:03:24 PM
Its not an option where I live.  For example, I live less than 15 minutes from the SJTC by car, but a bus trip would take around 2 hours.  Standing on the corner for an excessive amount of time in between buses, in 80 to 90 degree weather is simply not an option.  If gas becomes a serious issue with my finances, I'll move to another town or look for another job/house before I hop on the bus here.
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2008, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: WitchDoctor on May 06, 2008, 10:53:47 AM
Is the bus system reliable? As long as it gets me to work when I need to be there, I will use it.

From where to where?
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: adamh0903 on May 06, 2008, 04:16:12 PM
My wife drives from Callahan to San Jose to work. She would have to drive to River City Market Place (safest place) and catch the 8:01am bus transfer Downtown and arrive at San Jose at 9:30, (30 Minutes late) she would also have to walk about 4 blocks in the rain or 30 degrees or 100 degrees. To be at work on time she would have to catch the 6:45 bus. To come home she would have to wait after work for an hour and a half and then transfer one time and get to river city market place at 6 oclock. Then drive 20 minutes home. It would cost 8$ a day plus to gas to and from River City Market Place.....The bus just isnt an option for her

Now if she could catch a train in Yulee/Fernandina at 95 and ride to San Jose....in 45 mintues, then we would be talking...
Title: Re: Drivers leave cars home, put T use on record pace
Post by: WitchDoctor on May 06, 2008, 10:06:40 PM
According to the schedule, I would do this:

Go to: S.W. Corner Of 5170 Timuquana Rd

Board: J.T.A. P4 Line/Myrtle Ave. at 4:57 am (next bus at 5:24 am)

Fare: Pay $1.00

Get Off: Newnan St. & Forsyth St. at 5:31 am


Or this:

Go to: S.W. Corner Of 5170 Timuquana Rd

Board: J.T.A. P4 Line/Myrtle Ave. at 4:45 pm (next bus at 5:21 pm)

Fare: Pay $1.00

Get Off: Newnan St. & Forsyth St. at 5:26 pm

Depending on my schedule. If I can depend on that schedule to be within 5 minutes, then it'll work for me. I still have to drive it on the weekends, though.   :-\

I feel compelled to add that, if this were a commuter rail route, I wouldn't even need to ask if it is dependable. Trains don't get stuck in traffic.