QuoteLenny Curry, former chairman of the Florida Republican Party, filed Tuesday morning to challenge Democratic Mayor Alvin Brown in next year's election.
Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/2014-06-03/story/gop-candidate-lenny-curry-files-2015-mayors-race#ixzz33aJchrSs (http://jacksonville.com/news/2014-06-03/story/gop-candidate-lenny-curry-files-2015-mayors-race#ixzz33aJchrSs)
Good to hear. I can't wait to hear more about his platform.
Lets hope he sticks to real problems within the city and leaves the social red herrings at home. We don't need more Mike Hogan/abortion clinic bombing embarassments.
Well, we're certainly not lacking embarrassments right now.
Well, let's hope he embraces Mayor Brown's (not-so-good) leadership as chief party planner :-[
I'm shocked!
Quote from: pierre on June 03, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
Lets hope he sticks to real problems within the city and leaves the social red herrings at home. We don't need more Mike Hogan/abortion clinic bombing embarassments.
Considering who his major backers are, he should be fine with the expansion of the HRO to include LGBT persons.
I would appreciate some good Republican fiscal leadership but I certainly do not want the First Baptist anti- LGBT foolishness...
^You'd be hard pressed to get a worse track record on LGBT issues than Alvin Brown.
I agree.....that is why I will never vote for him...He is an opportunist who will say anything to get elected.
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Quote from: pierre on June 03, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
Lets hope he sticks to real problems within the city and leaves the social red herrings at home. We don't need more Mike Hogan/abortion clinic bombing embarassments.
lol
So given a chance to talk about how he felt about an expanded HRO, Lenny punted.
Not a good sign Lenny. Not a good sign.
http://members.jacksonville.com/news/2014-06-03/story/gop-candidate-lenny-curry-files-2015-mayors-race
I doubt Curry is going to take much of a stand on anything. He punted on the issue of raising taxes to fund pension reform too (said he wants to look at government expenditures first).
Is Curry a longtime Jacksonville Resident?
^^pretty much yea of NE Florida. Born in Key West moved to the area as a child and graduated from Middleburg HS and UF.
Quote from: Stephen on June 03, 2014, 12:37:54 PM
I agree.....that is why I will never vote for him...He is an opportunist who will say anything to get elected.
So you don't vote? ;)
Quote from: Stephen on June 03, 2014, 11:39:26 AM
I would appreciate some good Republican fiscal leadership but I certainly do not want the First Baptist anti- LGBT foolishness...
Not interested myself....
"Good republican fiscal leadership"
Hahahah
Quote from: avonjax on June 04, 2014, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: Stephen on June 03, 2014, 11:39:26 AM
I would appreciate some good Republican fiscal leadership but I certainly do not want the First Baptist anti- LGBT foolishness...
Not interested myself....
Yeah I want anti lgbt with no fiscal leadership. But as long as Alvin is in charge its OK
We've become accustomed to candidates promoted to office more as a consequence of the support of one wealthy individual, and less by the support of votes from the average citizen. The realization of democracy wanes as campaign money from a few wealthy individuals rises. Its the way of today.
At this point, I'd rather vote for an outside, than someone born and raised in Jacksonville. New blood. New ideas.
Should be a very interesting race. I need to do some homework. The campaign should be very engaging, hope we see some lively debate. I think the ability to debate and hold your position under questioning is a crucial factor for a leader.
I'd like to know what bridge he's trying to mimic in his official logo...surely not one in Jacksonville!
So is he, or is he not in favor of the HRO expansion.
Hard to tell from this interview.
http://www.wjct.org/category/ondemand/audio/first-coast-connect/
^Curry needs to quit dancing around this issue. Brown's problem was his cowardice on the HRO; Curry fumfering on the same issue isn't going to win over the people upset with Brown.
Quote from: Tacachale on June 25, 2014, 07:20:10 PM
^Curry needs to quit dancing around this issue. Brown's problem was his cowardice on the HRO; Curry fumfering on the same issue isn't going to win over the people upset with Brown.
Why?
Once you take a side on such a divisive issue, you run the risk of alienating potential voters. C'mon man. Politiks 101 - straddle the fence until the bitter end.
Quote from: Buforddawg on June 05, 2014, 09:16:53 PM
At this point, I'd rather vote for an outside, than someone born and raised in Jacksonville. New blood. New ideas.
I kind of have the same feeling!!
Quote from: Tacachale on June 03, 2014, 11:41:46 AM
^You'd be hard pressed to get a worse track record on LGBT issues than Alvin Brown.
I agree 100%
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on June 25, 2014, 08:25:42 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 25, 2014, 07:20:10 PM
^Curry needs to quit dancing around this issue. Brown's problem was his cowardice on the HRO; Curry fumfering on the same issue isn't going to win over the people upset with Brown.
Why?
Once you take a side on such a divisive issue, you run the risk of alienating potential voters. C'mon man. Politiks 101 - straddle the fence until the bitter end.
But until he does take a stance he will be continuously asked where he stands and should he answer like he did on First Coast Connect all he is doing is allienating people on every side of the issue.
He poorly delivered a response that was quite clearly the result of polling and focus groups with the results then distilled in to a 30 second sound bite by political consultants. I will give him credit for staying on message, but it was obvious that Melissa Ross saw blood in the water as she kept coming back to the issue.
Curry really wiffed on this show and has now set the tone for his early campaign. He will need to find a better way to address the HRO issue, or he risks looking like Greg Anderson and Jim Love who through their equivacation on 296 wound up making everyone from Equality Florida to hatemongers like Mr. Johnson angry with them.
Do we have any idea yet what this guy stands for on anything?? It is kind of sad at this point not much is known. I guess with the total lack of leadership with Brown this is what is happening. Nobody needs to come out and say want their stances are on much but just point to Browns total lack of leadership. Seems like a slippery slope we could be headed down with little alternatives. Sad.
Curry probably stands for whatever his major fundraisers want. Find them, their area of business focus, etc. and you'll find what he stands for.
Exactly. All we know about the former Chair of the Florida GOP is that he is "Not A Politician" (which gives an immediate concern about his veracity).
His Dad and his Wife like him.
He started a "small (unnamed) business with his credit card".
And he is endorsed by a who's who of the right and corrupt wing of the Florida GOP.
He believes in what the people who pay him believe! Simple enough!
The comments are kind of my point so it looks like all those who despise Browns lack of leadership need to bite the bullet and hope for 4 more years. Hence the sad comment.
There is Bill Bishop. If enough people who are fed up with Brown and Curry vote for Bill, instead of staying home, in the primary, there's a chance.
http://www.billbishopformayor.com/
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on June 25, 2014, 08:25:42 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 25, 2014, 07:20:10 PM
^Curry needs to quit dancing around this issue. Brown's problem was his cowardice on the HRO; Curry fumfering on the same issue isn't going to win over the people upset with Brown.
Why?
Once you take a side on such a divisive issue, you run the risk of alienating potential voters. C'mon man. Politiks 101 - straddle the fence until the bitter end.
Truth. And the paradox of term limits. Minutes after Brown would win the election, he would push through the HRO ASAP 2015. Next year is the Presidential election. Florida is the big prize. Jax is the bastion of Florida conservatism. And Brown will be the lame duck mayor. For his future, which is definitely in the Democratic party, he'll set the example with his push of HRO. And his financial "leadership" in the balancing of the city budget and NO TAX INCREASES. And be on the podium across Hemming Plaza. With Hillary Clinton, his mentor. Politiks 101 and term limits.
^It's really, really unlikely that Brown will support a human rights ordinance. Our best bet in that regard is that we get a more effective council this year - or that Curry beats Brown
Quote from: Tacachale on January 18, 2015, 06:44:32 PM
^It's really, really unlikely that Brown will support a human rights ordinance. Our best bet in that regard is that we get a more effective council this year - or that Curry beats Brown
Its definitely the best bet to get a more sympathetic council this year. We have the candidate here in District 14 in Jason Tetlak. But the election of Lenny Curry? Do you really think Curry is going to support HRO? How could he do that and then get on the podium as the Mayor of Jacksonville and wave into the crowd with Sarah Palin? Rick Perry? Mitt Romney?
Again, it would be political suicide for Brown to NOT support HRO. His position on the issue isn't no as much as evasive.
Yes, Curry will support an HRO. All of his major donors, the Chamber of Commerce, and the two previous Republican mayors are pushing hard for it. Brown has already proven he won't support it.
Quote from: Tacachale on January 18, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
Yes, Curry will support an HRO. All of his major donors, the Chamber of Commerce, and the two previous Republican mayors are pushing hard for it. Brown has already proven he won't support it.
Brown has also proven that he won't stop one either.
When the donors holding the banner of 'Christian Values' start giving stern looks, do you think Curry's going to take a side either?
You can quote me now, "I put my trust in the decision of our city council regarding the future of this or any HRO resolution and will support whichever direction they decide to go."
Quote from: Tacachale on January 18, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
Yes, Curry will support an HRO. All of his major donors, the Chamber of Commerce, and the two previous Republican mayors are pushing hard for it. Brown has already proven he won't support it.
What makes you believe so? After the vote he sure did not give a ringing endorsment for it. I think his non answer was he woukd want a consensus. For passage or defeat? Who really knows with that type of non answer.
Quote from: edjax on January 18, 2015, 02:32:36 PM
Do we have any idea yet what this guy stands for on anything?? It is kind of sad at this point not much is known. I guess with the total lack of leadership with Brown this is what is happening. Nobody needs to come out and say want their stances are on much but just point to Browns total lack of leadership. Seems like a slippery slope we could be headed down with little alternatives. Sad.
Is leadership always defined by someone taking a stance? I thought when people take stances they are considered inflexible and reflect not listening to the will of the people?
I have seen people run for office and take "stances" and are derided and shouted down as being poor leaders because of it.
So which is it?
Flexibility is a good thing. Spinelessness is not.
Quote from: spuwho on January 18, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: edjax on January 18, 2015, 02:32:36 PM
Do we have any idea yet what this guy stands for on anything?? It is kind of sad at this point not much is known. I guess with the total lack of leadership with Brown this is what is happening. Nobody needs to come out and say want their stances are on much but just point to Browns total lack of leadership. Seems like a slippery slope we could be headed down with little alternatives. Sad.
Is leadership always defined by someone taking a stance? I thought when people take stances they are considered inflexible and reflect not listening to the will of the people?
I have seen people run for office and take "stances" and are derided and shouted down as being poor leaders because of it.
So which is it?
Ok, how about his position on major issues.
I have yet to see a Curry or Brown yard sign but Bishop is everywhere.
Quote from: edjax on January 18, 2015, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 18, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Is leadership always defined by someone taking a stance? I thought when people take stances they are considered inflexible and reflect not listening to the will of the people?
I have seen people run for office and take "stances" and are derided and shouted down as being poor leaders because of it.
So which is it?
Ok, how about his position on major issues.
In all honesty, what difference will it make what his 'position' is prior to election?
The largest problem with politics is that every politicians' primary job is what? It's to get elected. After that, they can only hope to that they can have enough majority support to get elected again.
Personal ideology, IMO, goes out the window when it flies in the face of re=election - no matter the issues at hand.
I guess we see why some people get elected.
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on January 18, 2015, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: edjax on January 18, 2015, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: spuwho on January 18, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Is leadership always defined by someone taking a stance? I thought when people take stances they are considered inflexible and reflect not listening to the will of the people?
I have seen people run for office and take "stances" and are derided and shouted down as being poor leaders because of it.
So which is it?
Ok, how about his position on major issues.
In all honesty, what difference will it make what his 'position' is prior to election?
The largest problem with politics is that every politicians' primary job is what? It's to get elected. After that, they can only hope to that they can have enough majority support to get elected again.
Personal ideology, IMO, goes out the window when it flies in the face of re=election - no matter the issues at hand.
I would think a gay person might want to know if his position on the HRO is he would not support it under any circumstances. Sure he could say he supports it and change his mind, but if he was straight out against it it may be one reason why someone not want to vote for him.
QuoteLots of people are angry at the coup Lenny Curry's campaign pulled off at the Duval
County Republican Executive Committee meeting last week, when he earned the party's endorsement. Technicalities in the voting process — helped by a not-inconsiderable number of people who turned in blank ballots as a way of directly abstaining and perhaps demonstrating dissatisfaction with both candidates, Curry and Bill Bishop — led to Curry not pulling off the required supermajority on the first ballot. It took a second vote to get him there, taken after many voters had left the building.
Yes, Curry got the endorsement he wanted, but not without breaking a bunch of eggs to make the omelet. Bishop isn't happy, for starters, and the more of these shenanigans he experiences, the more likely it is that his supporters will rally behind Mayor Brown after the runoff (assuming, of course, that Bishop doesn't make it), whom Bishop has cheerfully described as a lousy mayor, but never as a man without integrity.
Click link for full article: http://folioweekly.com/LENNY-CURRYS-COUP-AND-THE-DUVAL-GOPS-CONSEQUENCES,11948
(http://i.imgur.com/sGxf5Z4.jpg)
Sounds like a good Republican to me ;)