I read in the TU this morning that the owners of the Super Food Truck plan to open a restaurant at 11 E. Forsyth. That is where the Starbucks used to be. More Good news. All of these baby steps are starting to add up.
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Quote from: GatorShane on May 03, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
I read in the TU this morning that the owners of the Super Food Truck plan to open a restaurant at 11 E. Forsyth. That is where the Starbucks used to be. More Good news. All of these baby steps are starting to add up.
This is one of the spaces I was fighting for. I would take the article with a grain of salt until it gets going because he is having some major issues so we shall see. One being the grease trap size required by W won't fit under as its only a half basement. I will be interested to see how it pans out
Just to clarify what I want by half basement is the floor to ceiling size is 4ft
^^Have you checked the building across from Carling for any of your endeavors? Seems like if Trio happens and Courtyard goes in that will be prime spot.
Quote from: edjax on May 03, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
^^Have you checked the building across from Carling for any of your endeavors? Seems like if Trio happens and Courtyard goes in that will be prime spot.
At one spark there was a group looking to put like a food garden bazaar type deal with a garden. The building you are talking about is supposed to have the space for a rooftop garden. So I am meeting with them next week to possibly bring a police substation and maybe a grocery type store if they are willing to try a rooftop garden instead of the one they looked at :)
Quote from: GatorShane on May 03, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
All of these baby steps are starting to add up.
Thanks for the info. I've been seeing these DT baby steps for quite a while now. Hopefully the constant talk of 'DT still not progressing' will eventually cease.
I would think this is a excellent time to invest in DT real estate, it would be fun to rehab a loft apartment or clear, clean and revitalize a small warehouse, etc. - both fun and profitable. We have rental property on the Southside, but if we were looking I would certainly consider DT as a good investment.
Someone posted an interesting comment in one of the forums the other day. He was lamenting that all the available apartments coming on-line were too finished and modern, and thereby too expensive for someone starting out. He was interested in one of those large-city warehouse lofts you see in movies that are basically just cleared open living spaces.
I'm in the middle of permitting a two-story live/work space in Springfield that will be open and raw in nature. My hope is that it is done by mid/late summer. This the type of theme (polished concrete floors, open floor plan, exposed ductwork, exposed block in certain places, floating modern stairwell, etc.) I'm shooting for:
(http://loftyfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Screen-Shot-2012-02-10-at-4.32.01-PM.png)
^ Reasonable rents? Part of this poster's issue was that finished, modern apartments were a bit pricey for the young struggling artist types, etc.
QuoteI would take the article with a grain of salt until it gets going because he is having some major issues so we shall see.
You would be incorrect by classifying the situation as having 'major issues'.
Quote from: IrvAdams on May 04, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
^ Reasonable rents? Part of this poster's issue was that finished, modern apartments were a bit pricey for the young struggling artist types, etc.
Depends on what's considered reasonable? For me, reasonable is based on a balance of area comps and amount of money needed to obtain a CO. Given the area comps, I'm tentatively shooting for somewhere around $1/sf. That might be a little more than a struggling artist wants to pay but it's a new product. The poster may want to seek something that isn't new, modern. Something that a little rough around the edges that they can put some sweat equity into improving a bit to fit their tastes.
Quote from: GatorShane on May 03, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
I read in the TU this morning that the owners of the Super Food Truck plan to open a restaurant at 11 E. Forsyth. That is where the Starbucks used to be. More Good news. All of these baby steps are starting to add up.
I'm looking forward to seeing Super Food open this space back up. Downtown appears to be proceeding on the right path. There's a level of excitement in the air that I haven't noticed locally since the years leading up to the Super Bowl. The key will be for us to find ways to facilitate this growth and not methods to become obstacles to movements, uses and creativity that may not be considered traditional.
Quote from: thelakelander on May 04, 2014, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: IrvAdams on May 04, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
^ Reasonable rents? Part of this poster's issue was that finished, modern apartments were a bit pricey for the young struggling artist types, etc.
Depends on what's considered reasonable? For me, reasonable is based on a balance of area comps and amount of money needed to obtain a CO. Given the area comps, I'm tentatively shooting for somewhere around $1/sf. That might be a little more than a struggling artist wants to pay but it's a new product. The poster may want to seek something that isn't new, modern. Something that a little rough around the edges that they can put some sweat equity into improving a bit to fit their tastes.
That rate sounds reasonable to me. It's what I get for our SS rentals, and they're not new.
QuoteThe key will be for us to find ways to facilitate this growth and not methods to become obstacles to movements, uses and creativity that may not be considered traditional.
100% agree. COJ needs to be a facilitator, not a gatekeeper.
Quote from: fieldafm on May 04, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
QuoteThe key will be for us to find ways to facilitate this growth and not methods to become obstacles to movements, uses and creativity that may not be considered traditional.
100% agree. COJ needs to be a facilitator, not a gatekeeper.
And don't allow a dictator to use the powers of numerous Governmental agencies to have you immediately removed for attempting a traditional creative experience that allowed for spontaneous growth through a tactical node of utilizing what everyone else sees as dead space.
Great news Super Food Trucks. Thank you, thank you, thank you. :) Every building occupied is taking the core a little closer down the road toward the old vibrancy we used to feel in the Jax core. Food trucks are nice, but occupied buildings are critical for permanent core development. ;)
Quote from: fieldafm on May 04, 2014, 09:10:57 AM
QuoteI would take the article with a grain of salt until it gets going because he is having some major issues so we shall see.
You would be incorrect by classifying the situation as having 'major issues'.
As having looked into the property, which I am pretty sure you have not... The city officials, which I am also sure you are not, Have said the size grease traps needed for a restaurant would not fit in the basement of that building without a very substantial modification or placing it outside the structure. Even the city plumber labeled it as a "major issue" With a hefty price tag and extensive modifications. The super food guy has also pulled his deal once before due to the same issue. Also on the agenda is a new version of the code section used for plumbing. If the renovations are not done before the new codes are passed then they could potentially have to do it all over again. I fail to see how that is not a major issue.
I'm not the one that made the attack so the same could be said about myself as it seems as you are saying I am not ;)
Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2014, 11:13:45 PM
Quote from: AuditoreEnterprise on May 04, 2014, 11:12:15 PM
I'm not the one that made the attack so the same could be said about myself as it seems as you are saying I am not ;)
not at all! Actually I havent been following the thread. I read the site through the "recent posts' option, and was just responding to the comment about Field. And no attack intended. Sometimes tone can be very difficult to convey on a forum. :)
I completely agree with that statement Stephen lol I have noticed that several times. I would also like to extend the olive branch if what I said seemed like an insult to the field in general.
On a side note would the Metrojax people like to have the Monday meeting at my office location this week? I really would like to attend one just to meet some of the people running this with vested interests.
Okay I can do bold bean. I just have a person I am helping with a business venture with me and I want her to tell you and lake the idea and get your opinions. I was just suggesting because I have a board room I can use. But just give me the time and I will be at bold bean in riverside
Quote from: IrvAdams on May 04, 2014, 09:33:17 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 04, 2014, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: IrvAdams on May 04, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
^ Reasonable rents? Part of this poster's issue was that finished, modern apartments were a bit pricey for the young struggling artist types, etc.
Depends on what's considered reasonable? For me, reasonable is based on a balance of area comps and amount of money needed to obtain a CO. Given the area comps, I'm tentatively shooting for somewhere around $1/sf. That might be a little more than a struggling artist wants to pay but it's a new product. The poster may want to seek something that isn't new, modern. Something that a little rough around the edges that they can put some sweat equity into improving a bit to fit their tastes.
That rate sounds reasonable to me. It's what I get for our SS rentals, and they're not new.
The cheapest rents I've ever heard of were $0.93/sf in suburban Raleigh/Cary. If struggling artists can make it in New York and San Francisco, there is no reason except "lack of demand" for not making it in Jacksonville. $1/SF is kind of the bottom of the barrel of rents in this entire country.
Jax doesn't have that much interesting warehouse/loft space. I'm actually surprised it isn't a bigger thing since there are creative types in the city and more of this kind of space than anywhere else in FL. It's actually quite unique. I know if I moved back it would be between putting that kind of sweat equity into a similar space, myself, or moving into the Peninsula, not that the two are comparable for most pricewise, but for me they would be.
Old news...?
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2014/03/21/super-food-truck-wants-to-open-in-brick-and-mortar.html?page=all
That was the original story on it.
Very excited!