This anti drug/drinking & driving program will soon be here in Jax. This pilot program will exist in Jax for atleast for 3.5 years. State legislation soon could follow. I'll post the link soon.
Quote from: I-10east on April 21, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
This anti-drinking & driving program will soon be here in Jax. This pilot program will exist in Jax for atleast for 3.5 years. State legislation soon could follow. I'll post the link soon.
Is this a new program I-10. I know there are some similar things in place. Do you have a link to info on it? Thanks. Of course I would hope the intent would be one focused on not driving while under the influence of many mind altering substances. Liquor is just one of them. :)
^^^Yup, this program is new. I'll post the link soon like I mentioned; The only info I've saw so far is TU's members only paywall, and Actionnewsjax who didn't post the story yet. Yeah, I started to say 'anti-drug' too but I didn't wanna stumble over myself like I do sometimes; I was like 'you get the gist until the link'. I'll add it. :)
Here's the link.
www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Drug-and-Alcohol-crime-offenders-to-be-tested/gG_ADZkZWUSa8GaIrntYIQ.cspx
Thank you I-10!
Ah, from the first paragraph. quote: JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Nearly 80 percent of all crimes are committed by someone using drugs or alcohol, and Sue Holley has idea that could make those criminals sober up.
"It's not a new focus but it's a new approach."[/quote]
So they are suggesting monitoring the worst offenders when it comes to substance abuse. Interested to see where this goes.
^^^According to actionnewsjax's video story (which isn't posted yet) they also are gonna set up random check points (Monument Rd was mentioned).
I think this is one of those programs that sounds great on paper, yet in reality will fail. It puts a lot of power in the judges hands, and being that Duval county, unlike other places where this is used, elect our judges. Plus, the fact that it encompasses those accused, awaiting trial will throw a civil liberties lawyer into a frenzy very soon. And in my experience, those who need this program the most, have already learned how to beat these tests so they wouldn't be affected to the degree they should. The fact that it is offender funded will have a telling affect on its operations. Those with an addiction are very good at hiding their money from the courts while those who honestly want to change their life will be hampered by having to pay for these random tests, most who are unemployed already. So basically the program will be constrained by the amount of offenders whom actually pay.
But, if it takes one offender off the road and saves one life, I guess it's worth it.
I guess that the Monument Rd check point, and the 24/7 Sobriety program are actually two different things. It was kinda confusing the way that actionnews tied those two stories together. Here's the video story.
www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoID=5059737&navCatId=20896
I like the idea that they have, but on a realistic note there are apps that people run to tell people where checkpoints are. Back in Los Angeles when we had any sort of holiday function or party we checked the apps and made sure to spread the word to avoid the areas. That coupled with the police scanner apps makes it near a waste of money to even increase presence before you upgrade equipment so that they can regain the element of surprise. I am very curious to see where they go with this though. good find I-10
There's an argument for mass transit right there - no DUIs issued on a bus, streetcar, skyway, etc. Designated driver built right in. Of course, for the skyway it's a computer.
Quote from: IrvAdams on April 25, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
There's an argument for mass transit right there - no DUIs issued on a bus, streetcar, skyway, etc. Designated driver built right in. Of course, for the skyway it's a computer.
I hope for an effective, full coverage mass transit system to provide easy transportation for all, but especially for those drinking or drugging. And when legal marijuana arrives in the state, the mass transit will be that much more valuable. We can all get to our destination stoned, without worrying about driving stoned.
Quote from: rutabaga on April 26, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: IrvAdams on April 25, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
There's an argument for mass transit right there - no DUIs issued on a bus, streetcar, skyway, etc. Designated driver built right in. Of course, for the skyway it's a computer.
I hope for an effective, full coverage mass transit system to provide easy transportation for all, but especially for those drinking or drugging. And when legal marijuana arrives in the state, the mass transit will be that much more valuable. We can all get to our destination stoned, without worrying about driving stoned.
Very good insight. That point completely slipped my mind.
QuoteI hope for an effective, full coverage mass transit system to provide easy transportation for all, but especially for those drinking or drugging. And when legal marijuana arrives in the state, the mass transit will be that much more valuable. We can all get to our destination stoned, without worrying about driving stoned.
After Marijuana is legalized, maybe, just maybe this will happen. Of course a portion of the product purchased will go to fund the new system, because we have to tax our citizens!!!
Food Trucks to come to DUI checkpoints. Look for a J bill out of Jacksonville. Stay positive.
So if some 25 year old gets picked up on their first DUI charge, a judge can force them to pay up to $300 a month for testing regardless of plea or verdict? How is that not a violation of the 8th amendment?
I am hoping that they have plans to only put that type of punishment to pass with H.O's. If they do it to First timers then I agree it will raise some constitutional issues.
On a side note I guess it is comparable to the healthcare fine. First time no insurance $900 dollar fine.
It will be up to the judge as to whether the 24/7 program will apply. A lot of the information about the program, as it was applied in South Dakota, can be found here: http://apps.sd.gov/atg/dui247/index.htm
It's an evidence based program that's been effective for multiple offenders. I expect that's how it will be used here. Has nothing at all to do with checkpoints, just follow-up to ensure sobriety subsequent to the offense. It appears to work better than the use of the interlock devices.
Quote from: Scarlettjax on April 27, 2014, 07:34:36 PM
It will be up to the judge as to whether the 24/7 program will apply. A lot of the information about the program, as it was applied in South Dakota, can be found here: http://apps.sd.gov/atg/dui247/index.htm
It's an evidence based program that's been effective for multiple offenders. I expect that's how it will be used here. Has nothing at all to do with checkpoints, just follow-up to ensure sobriety subsequent to the offense. It appears to work better than the use of the interlock devices.
I read something before on those lock boxes where the people were having their partner or children blow to start the car. It's just a shame it's so easily bypassed.