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Title: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on March 28, 2014, 03:00:01 AM
Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?

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Metro Jacksonville has been a supporter and advocate of the award-winning 2030 Mobility Plan and Fee because of its ability to transform Jacksonville into a fiscal and multimodal friendly community. However, the City Council is considering a bill that could lead to the mobility fee being utilized to fund the unsustainable development pattern that the 2030 Mobility Plan was intended to alleviate.

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Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: Bridges on March 28, 2014, 08:03:25 AM
Thanks for keeping this at the forefront.  Implemented properly, it will overtime change the mentality of how we think about our city.  We're fighting the old Jacksonville.  In the past the old Jacksonville has won the majority of the big battles.  Time to move forward with the new Jacksonville. 

I put all the emails in a copy paste format so that you can email them all with ease.  Be courteous in your email. 

Clay@coj.net, WBishop@coj.net, RClark@coj.net, Redman@coj.net, LBoyer@coj.net, MattS@coj.net, Gaffney@coj.net, EDLee@coj.net, WAJones@coj.net, RBrown@coj.net, Holt@coj.net, doylec@coj.net, Gulliford@coj.net, JimLove@coj.net, KimDaniels@coj.net, JRC@coj.net, Joost@coj.net, GAnderson@coj.net, RLumb@coj.net

It also helps to contact several of the council members with specifics about projects. 
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: CG7 on March 28, 2014, 08:21:06 AM
I just sent my first of many emails. Thanks for staying in the forefront on this issue.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: strider on March 28, 2014, 08:26:16 AM
QuoteAbout Bill 2013-761

Bill Type and Number: Ordinance 2013-761

Introducer/Sponsor(s): Council Member Bishop

Date of Introduction: November 26, 2013

Committee(s) of Reference: TEU, LUZ

Date of Analysis: November 28, 2013

Type of Action: Ordinance Code amendment

One fact that I think is very important for all to know is that this ordinance was not initially written by this city nor it's legal department.  It was written by Paul Harden, who was of course hired by the people who will benefit by the gutting of the Mobility Fee.

QuoteForm Approved:

__/s/ Paige Hobbs Johnston
Office of General Counsel
Legislation Prepared By:   Paul M. Harden

That alone should bring the entire idea into question.  That alone should make us wonder who Mr Bishop is really working for.

Even past all that, the basic idea that we need to be giving the developers the farm is ludicrous.  How do they make their money?  Do you really believe that they will not develop that land if they do not get this law passed?  Or does it make more sense that they have already figured out they can make a profit even paying the highest level of fees and infrastructure cost and are now simply trying to maximize those profits?

Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: Noone on March 28, 2014, 08:27:52 AM
Bill Bishop is now running for Mayor.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: Bridges on March 28, 2014, 08:29:23 AM
Quote from: Noone on March 28, 2014, 08:27:52 AM
Bill Bishop is now running for Mayor.

That answers the question of why he would introduce this.  Going to need that backing for his run. 
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: thelakelander on March 28, 2014, 08:32:05 AM
When did Bishop announce that he's running for Mayor?

Quote from: strider on March 28, 2014, 08:26:16 AM
Even past all that, the basic idea that we need to be giving the developers the farm is ludicrous.  How do they make their money?  Do you really believe that they will not develop that land if they do not get this law passed?  Or does it make more sense that they have already figured out they can make a profit even paying the highest level of fees and infrastructure cost and are now simply trying to maximize those profits?

In the case of the SR 9B development, the interchange to this property is already under construction. I seriously doubt that FDOT is paying for it, so I suspect that's private money being used.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: thelakelander on March 28, 2014, 08:33:08 AM
Regarding Bishop, never mind.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: Noone on March 28, 2014, 08:38:26 AM
Didn't realize that Paul Hardin wrote the legislation.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: strider on March 28, 2014, 08:39:02 AM
Right after I posted on this thread, Google decided I needed to see ads for OTHER cities (like Portland) and to travel.  Does Google know how bad people like Bishop and Harden are making Jacksonville?
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: tufsu1 on March 28, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
Notwithstanding this bill, I was not aware that Bill Bishop was a bad person
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: jcjohnpaint on March 28, 2014, 10:19:37 AM
Interesting talk related to the situation

http://www.ted.com/talks/lawrence_lessig_we_the_people_and_the_republic_we_must_reclaim
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: TD* on March 28, 2014, 01:25:05 PM
I am fully in support of the mobility fee. Back last year when I reviewed the Jax comp plan for grad school I made note of the mobility fee. It's sad to see that Jax leadership only is interested in expanding its tax base through suburban and exurban development. If Jax could implement light rail or commuter rail it would tie together the city and create many tod opportunities.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: Bridges on March 28, 2014, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: TD* on March 28, 2014, 01:25:05 PM
It's sad to see that Jax leadership only is interested in expanding its tax base through suburban and exurban development.

That's a losing game.  Even more so for a city that is so adverse to raising taxes. 
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: IrvAdams on March 28, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
I think our leadership is being guided by other forces into making these decisions, I don't believe they've thought through all the consequences. Education and information are the key. I refuse to believe it is an unstoppable urban spiral.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: IrvAdams on March 28, 2014, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: IrvAdams on March 28, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
I think our leadership is being guided by other forces into making these decisions, I don't believe they've thought through all the consequences. Education and information are the key. I refuse to believe it is an unstoppable urban spiral.

Sorry, make that a 'suburban' spiral.
Title: Re: Do You Care About Jacksonville's Future?
Post by: strider on March 28, 2014, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 28, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
Notwithstanding this bill, I was not aware that Bill Bishop was a bad person

It was how bad "they" are making Jacksonville, not stating that Mr Bishop is necessarily a totally bad person. Just selling his soul to try to get elected perhaps...



Edited to correct the sole (soul) though he could be selling that one too!